This game is funded by Tencent so it's a big no for me.

[Euphoria | Aka]

Tencent has been a chinese communist parted led company for decades and it has been expanding its market control over new industries for quite a while. It does not just monitor chinese players' behavior but also steal info from players who have installed the games they funded. Whoever cares about human rights should boycott this game.

[Metadigital]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Keenfire:

You sound like someone that has never been to a communist country.

No? I have also never been to Middle Earth, Omicron Persei, or Westeros.

Communism is a stateless system. There are no communist countries. If you think you see one, it's lying. Countries love to lie; especially about what they are.

[Keenfire]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Metadigital:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Keenfire:

You sound like someone that has never been to a communist country.

No? I have also never been to Middle Earth, Omicron Persei, or Westeros.

Communism is a stateless system. There are no communist countries. If you think you see one, it's lying. Countries love to lie; especially about what they are.

I'll rephrase. You sound like a sheltered asshat that has done nothing but complain their entire life. You seem like the type that thinks they know everything, but has done nothing.

[Metadigital]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Keenfire:

I'll rephrase. You sound like a sheltered asshat that has done nothing but complain their entire life. You seem like the type that thinks they know everything, but has done nothing.

All because I say I know the definition of a word? I guarantee you I know that definition. If that's all that is possible to know in the universe, then I guess you could argue that I think I know everything.

Imagine if knowing how to define a word meant you knew everything. What a strange concept.

[ZZZZZ]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Metadigital:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Keenfire:

You sound like someone that has never been to a communist country.

No? I have also never been to Middle Earth, Omicron Persei, or Westeros.

Communism is a stateless system. There are no communist countries. If you think you see one, it's lying. Countries love to lie; especially about what they are.

if 99% of the world calls them that.. then who the hell cares about a word definition, the fight/discussion is always lost if you only speak the language of 1%

[Keenfire]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Metadigital:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Keenfire:

I'll rephrase. You sound like a sheltered asshat that has done nothing but complain their entire life. You seem like the type that thinks they know everything, but has done nothing.

All because I say I know the definition of a word? I guarantee you I know that definition. If that's all that is possible to know in the universe, then I guess you could argue that I think I know everything.

Imagine if knowing how to define a word meant you knew everything. What a strange concept.

You weren't defining anything, friend. We both know it.

[Metadigital]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von McGreedy:

if 99% of the world calls them that.. then who the hell cares about a word definition, the fight/discussion is always lost if you only speak the language of 1%

By that logic, we're doomed as a species. We can't even have things like politics and economics... or science... or anything that requires words having a correct definition.

[AnthraX]

Lol what kinda data they gonna get like 😂

[Keenfire]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von AnthraX:

Lol what kinda data they gonna get like 😂

Info to help work on the next pandemic.

[AnthraX]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Keenfire:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von AnthraX:

Lol what kinda data they gonna get like 😂

Info to help work on the next pandemic.

😂

[Zamboni Toni]

The government in China still owns every inch of the land. The ruling party decides where businesses can put their buildings, and major economic decisions have to be approved by the party. That's why Jack Ma disappeared, he might have been a CEO in global markets but at home he forgot who his boss was. The ruling party.

[Curisus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Metadigital:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Keenfire:

You sound like someone that has never been to a communist country.

No? I have also never been to Middle Earth, Omicron Persei, or Westeros.

Communism is a stateless system. There are no communist countries. If you think you see one, it's lying. Countries love to lie; especially about what they are.

Oh boy. Wait till you realise what CCP stands for!

[screamingpalm]

Metadigital knows what's up.

Meanwhile fools think they live in a free country- that has 1/4 of the world's prison population.

[LuckyToShoot]

I see that's good to know. As much as I care about human rights, I am sorry but I am weak and the devs did do a good job on the game and I want to support the devs to continue making a better game, so I will politely decline on boycotting them.

Maybe consider asking politicians to properly sanction China for the atrocities they have committed. It will probably make a much bigger difference than asking a few forum dwellers on a game forum to cancel a company.

Side note data tracking is optional in this game, you could just turn it off. And I am sure most western countries made it illegal to harvest private data without the user agreeing to it (hope everyone read the ToS, i know most don't, but me neither). I am no lawyer but you could likely sue them if they harvested your personal info without you permitting them to do so.

[Zamboni Toni]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von LuckyToShoot:

Maybe consider asking politicians to properly sanction China for the atrocities they have committed. It will probably make a much bigger difference than asking a few forum dwellers on a game forum to cancel a company.

Side note data tracking is optional in this game, you could just turn it off. And I am sure most western countries made it illegal to harvest private data without the user agreeing to it (hope everyone read the ToS, i know most don't, but me neither). I am no lawyer but you could likely sue them if they harvested your personal info without you permitting them to do so.

I will continue to play the game as well for now. But I won't play something like Valorant which installs files in your system directories. If I knew Tencent bought the company previously I wouldnt have bought the game though.

The tracking button in the game is not telling you the whole truth..

I'm sorry my friend, you cannot sue a company in a foreign country. It doesn't matter what the law is in United States, if that's where you are. If the data is collected and put on a Chinese server, the developers are obligated to handover access to the gov and deny/hide the obligation to foreign interests.

[LuckyToShoot]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Stack:

I will continue to play the game as well for now. But I won't play something like Valorant which installs files in your system directories. If I knew Tencent bought the company previously I wouldnt have bought the game though.

The tracking button in the game is not telling you the whole truth..

I'm sorry my friend, you cannot sue a company in a foreign country. It doesn't matter what the law is in United States, if that's where you are. If the data is collected and put on a Chinese server, the developers are obligated to handover access to the gov and deny/hide the obligation to foreign interests.

No I don't live in the US. But I would just say no company ever tell the full truth anyway, so I stopped caring about it at this point. I am just a simple folk, If the developers dish out good games, I will pay for such games. Good games are already far and few between these days, unless the company is directly involved in actually doing the crimes against humanity themselves, I fail to see how being backed by a company of a foreign country doesn't automatically make the company backed being considered "evil" to justify a boycott. I am more concerned about company investing in an authoritarian country with predatory monetization being used in their games.

The way I see it, if Tencent finally decide on investing in some good games, then I would say finally about time they did something good and actually invest in games that feels like games, not some lootbox riddled mobile crap, and that's a good step forward for the game industry in my book.