Scourgestone slog

[DiabloMuerto]

Feel like the game really starts to drag once you hit the point where you need scourgestones. If you're playing solo it might be less of an issue but on public server with other people, there really aren't enough sources for scourgestones. One person can effectively exhaust all the spots where you might go to farm them or the resources to craft them in a pretty small window. Since you need them to advance basically everything once you hit a certain point, this just really makes the game start to drag.

There are usually only two or three other people in my progression range that are online when I play and even with those small number of people it's still a challenge to find an area that isn't cleared out. So you can imagine how it will be once you have 10 or 20 people all at the late stages of progression, all needing those same very limited resources. I play on PvE and it's hard I don't know how you get anywhere on a PvP server with partial or full drop.

[Natjur]

That is why you can MAKE them. Or use servant to hunt for them.

[Zakayel]

just have rows of forges making scourgestones, farm the grave dust and glass instead and you're set.

[KittHaven]

I use servants for them and make them when I have enough resources and currently have over 200 ready for when I can hop back on properly. Currently only able to get on to collect from servants and send them off again lol

[DiabloMuerto]

Escrito originalmente por Natjur:

That is why you can MAKE them. Or use servant to hunt for them.

I don't recall saying it was impossible, I said it becomes a slog. Generally the grave dust is going to be the limiter and farming thousands of bone, as that is what you will need is a slog and if you want to be efficient you want to farm that bone in the later game areas where you can also farm for useful things on top of it. which again leads back to what I said previously, those areas are usually cleared out from other people that came to the exact same conclusion.

Servants is not a terrible option but that will require you to detour to farm up materials to outfit them all and the Hunt timers leave something to be desired. So yeah, slog...

[Soren]

The servants are pretty good at glass collecting. You just need to frequent some undead places for the grave dust and bones to grave dust. The few scourge stones you get along the way are just icing on the cake.

I personally find collecting other ingredients like scales en masse to be a little more repetitive. You don't really get schematics or scrolls while farming them. So it's really just scales and pristine hides, or scales and silk worms. Pick your poison. Scourge stone can be farmed in multiple ways. Craft it, farm for it directly from certain undead mobs (maybe while you grind out the general's soul reaper recipe too), or occasionally fight abandoned farm's scarecrows if you live nearby it.

[SirPancake]

It's a chore in solo mode too. On paper, you could also use the Tomb to help you with Scourgestones but they also require raw materials, and even then the drop rate is pretty low, meaning that you could easily summon 4 undead padres and get nothing for your trouble. In practice, you're better off grinding for bones and quartz but even then it takes a while. Once you get to Dark Silver tier it gets really bad, especially with the repair bills. There's creating difficulty and there's creating economic bottlenecks that stifle progress and waste the player's time. Like Schematics.

Servants would be a lot better if they didn't take so long to bring in so little. The whole math around Servant Hunts is so bad I'm not sure it's cost-effective to invest in them compared to using all that time to grind for the things you need on your own.

[Tanyon]

By the time I got to scourge stones I was able to make 116 by sending servants to get the required mats and just paying attention as to always keeping these mats in mind also, my servants bring me like 5-10 every 2 hours.

[Tanyon]

Escrito originalmente por SirPancake:

It's a chore in solo mode too. On paper, you could also use the Tomb to help you with Scourgestones but they also require raw materials, and even then the drop rate is pretty low, meaning that you could easily summon 4 undead padres and get nothing for your trouble. In practice, you're better off grinding for bones and quartz but even then it takes a while. Once you get to Dark Silver tier it gets really bad, especially with the repair bills. There's creating difficulty and there's creating economic bottlenecks that stifle progress and waste the player's time. Like Schematics.

Servants would be a lot better if they didn't take so long to bring in so little. The whole math around Servant Hunts is so bad I'm not sure it's cost-effective to invest in them compared to using all that time to grind for the things you need on your own.

Invest time into servants? 1.5 hours to turn them, then outfit them with hallowfang, an iron weapon, ring and then use them literally forever? My servants bring me alllll kinds of ♥♥♥♥ I need.. including 5-10 scourge stones every 2 hours and the mats to make more. Servants are incredibly useful if people take the time to outfit them properly, and collect the ones with the proper abilities to clear the areas they want. I get scourge stones, fish, oil, bones, bone dust, glass, quartz, scrolls.. it cuts the farming in half if you utilize all you can when they come up.

[Misfit]

Escrito originalmente por Natjur:

That is why you can MAKE them. Or use servant to hunt for them.

this.
have 2 maxed castles on official pve, which means 18 servants.
instead of repairing give your gear to servants and you will have more mats then you can spend after maxing all your servants in 1-2 days.
you dont even need upgraded gear, if they have a decent percentage the basic endgame gear is more than enough for every mission.
you can send a team from each castle to the same mission, so you get mass amounts of all endgame mats for free every day.

[Soren]

Escrito originalmente por Misfit:

Escrito originalmente por Natjur:

That is why you can MAKE them. Or use servant to hunt for them.

this.
have 2 maxed castles on official pve, which means 18 servants.
instead of repairing give your gear to servants and you will have more mats then you can spend after maxing all your servants in 1-2 days.
you dont even need upgraded gear, if they have a decent percentage the basic endgame gear is more than enough for every mission.
you can send a team from each castle to the same mission, so you get mass amounts of all endgame mats for free every day.

Most private servers eventually limit castle hearts to 1. Not for this reason of servant missions OP at 18 mind you (which is kinda true). It's because there isn't enough land if you allow everyone to have a total of 500 squares + border protection. Heck, 25 dedicated people could probably claim 90% of all the land on the map if they didn't care about others.