Petition to limit Console Command usage

[Gryphonheart]

I've been playing a lot in a friend hosted server but it's come to my notice that console commands are very accesible to players.

I'd like to ask for a way to limit their usage as it is very easy for irresponsible people to abuse them. Openly cheating with them should not be allowed... it defeats the purpose of the game when it is used to spawn stacks of paper, scrolls and materials. I have tried reaching out to the admin in the server about its use but to no avail. Despite their promise to not use them, they just wait until everyone is offline to do a mess with the commands and spawn items to give themselves better gear and a huge advantage.

Is there any way to block the use of them? Is it possible to have a long term solution for this?

[53sixone64]

I'm a bit confused since admin commands require admin auth on dedicated servers. Admin auth requires someone to add your steamid to a text file on the dedicated server. Being set as admin level requires someone currently with admin auth (from steamid and text file) to set a player and only lasts until they relog.

[Justicar]

Sounds like you should run your own server. Because unless I misunderstand, your playing on someone else server (a friend) yet wanting console commands removed. So they can't use them anymore after they didn't agree to not use them by your request. That's kinda low dude.

[Natjur]

By default any new server has NO ADMINS and no one can use admin commands. You can still bring up the console but none of the command do anything. They will only work correctly if your steamID is in the adminlist.txt file

The host HAD to add themselves to the file adminlist.txt to get access to use the admin commands, So clearly they WANT to cheat and since they are host, they are allowed to do that.

By having no one in the adminlist.txt then no one can use them. Tell your friend who is hosting to stop cheating and remove themselves from the adminlist.txt file

[Gryphonheart]

Originally posted by Justicar:

Sounds like you should run your own server. Because unless I misunderstand, your playing on someone else server (a friend) yet wanting console commands removed. So they can't use them anymore after they didn't agree to not use them by your request. That's kinda low dude.

Ok, I'll take the bait. You are misunderstanding, and it is not low. I did ask to stop the use of console commands "to no avail" as written above. What is truly low here is using cmd to spawn items that give unfair advantages, teleport around when others have to use horses and wolf form...

Of course I'd want such a tool removed from the options entirely to avoid irresponsible use of them. I don't see anything "low" in this request. I will agree, however, that for now I should just play on my own server.

[Chompman]

Is this the first time playing on a privately hosted server?

Admins in most games have a ton of power in them and usually something decent server admins will only use to fix problems and not make themselves gods and abuse it.

If this is an issue you need to find a better server where this does not happen.

[53sixone64]

Originally posted by Gryphonheart:

Originally posted by Justicar:

Sounds like you should run your own server. Because unless I misunderstand, your playing on someone else server (a friend) yet wanting console commands removed. So they can't use them anymore after they didn't agree to not use them by your request. That's kinda low dude.

Ok, I'll take the bait. You are misunderstanding, and it is not low. I did ask to stop the use of console commands "to no avail" as written above. What is truly low here is using cmd to spawn items that give unfair advantages, teleport around when others have to use horses and wolf form...

Of course I'd want such a tool removed from the options entirely to avoid irresponsible use of them. I don't see anything "low" in this request. I will agree, however, that for now I should just play on my own server.

The reply accusing you of taking the low road isn't wrong. Instead of talking with the host regarding a solution or changing to a responsible server you are choosing to request the commands be removed from ALL servers.

You're missing the points from the replies to your message. Everyone does not have access to admin commands. Only those ADDED by the server host. If the HOST is playing a way you do not like you have two options left.



1- Ask your friend who is hosting the server to stop providing unfair advantages
OR
2- Find a new server with responsible admins.

Sounds like you want a chill place to play and it's not unreasonable to want a fair place to live. It sucks you might have to ditch your friends but it is hurting your enjoyment of a game you paid for. I feel that, it sucks. Good luck dude.

[SirPancake]

I wouldn't mind it as an option in server settings. Then again, I think you're better off playing with either people you know and trust or by yourself. I don't think this game is good for playing with randoms.

[Judgmental Amaterasu]

Originally posted by Gryphonheart:

Originally posted by Justicar:

Sounds like you should run your own server. Because unless I misunderstand, your playing on someone else server (a friend) yet wanting console commands removed. So they can't use them anymore after they didn't agree to not use them by your request. That's kinda low dude.

Ok, I'll take the bait. You are misunderstanding, and it is not low. I did ask to stop the use of console commands "to no avail" as written above. What is truly low here is using cmd to spawn items that give unfair advantages, teleport around when others have to use horses and wolf form...

Of course I'd want such a tool removed from the options entirely to avoid irresponsible use of them. I don't see anything "low" in this request. I will agree, however, that for now I should just play on my own server.

It's THEIR server. If they want to cmd spawn stuff they're going to do it. I

[53sixone64]

Originally posted by SirPancake:

I wouldn't mind it as an option in server settings. Then again, I think you're better off playing with either people you know and trust or by yourself. I don't think this game is good for playing with randoms.

I'm always for more settings. A lot of servers would likely choose to disable console for trust, I would anyway. There isn't a good way, a few basic options, it would be nice to have useful commands we could do externally. Out of game, it is also hard or impossible to make use of or abuse most ingame console commands.

It's annoying having to check logs for admin commands too.

[Gryphonheart]

Originally posted by Five36one64:

Originally posted by SirPancake:

I wouldn't mind it as an option in server settings. Then again, I think you're better off playing with either people you know and trust or by yourself. I don't think this game is good for playing with randoms.

I'm always for more settings. A lot of servers would likely choose to disable console for trust, I would anyway. There isn't a good way, a few basic options, it would be nice to have useful commands we could do externally. Out of game, it is also hard or impossible to make use of or abuse most ingame console commands.

It's annoying having to check logs for admin commands too.

I agree. While joining another server is the easiest solution, it doesn’t help in the long run I believe

[Infern]

Just remove the Tilde key from your keyboard... Tada you have no way to use it.

[Spork Witch]

So wait, you're playing on someone else's server, he doesn't want to change the settings, and so you want THE DEVS to change the settings on his PRIVATE SERVER? Are you trolling? O.o

By default, no one has admin. Initial admin, as others said, must be set via TEXT FILE on the server itself. This is absurd on its face. Even the "trust" argument is ridiculous, as there's literally nothing preventing the owner from turning it off, turning on admin, spawning some stuff in, then turning admin off again, and anyone who didn't rejoin in those couple minutes would have no clue anything happened.

Don't play on servers with settings you don't like, don't play on servers with dirty or abusive admins. Simple as.

[Chompman]

Originally posted by SKAPPELTON:

I disagree, but I wouldn't mind them adding a filter option to filter servers depending on X amount of admins it has.

If a server has more than 1 admin I'm not interested.

The amount should not matter as long as they don't abuse their powers.

[webmetalreese]

The console (I thought) was there simply due to it still being in EA and they wanted players to test things - not to just grind away at trees for hours.

Let me ask everyone something then - does anyone have an issue with starting a new vamp and jumping into a clan and going from gear level 10 to 50 simply by learning all of the research and using what has already been gathered?

Seems kind of silly that I can start a brand new game and give minutes later almost half of the bosses are so below me that I can stand there and take whatever they throw at me.

How is that actually different than a console command?

[Soren]

These tools can be used to moderate or run large servers. You can't expect an admin manually find your base if you're breaking rules. Teleports are necessary for players have an issue they need an admin's help with.

For example, if you ban 2 castle hearts because too much room is being taken up, you have to teleport around and check for double bases. Another example, someone is using "gamer language", as in the "n" word in local chat. People can ask for or whisper for an admin to tp on them when someone is breaking the rules right beside their base.