Similarities between V Rising and The Wild Eight

[redsky1335]

So a friend and I got this game in early access years ago called the Wild Eight. V Rising is EXACTLY THE SAME GAME.

I haven't checked, but are these games produced by the same people? If so, that's a bad sign: Wild Eight got dropped before leaving early access, leaving it an unfinished mess. I forsee something similar for V Rising if mechanics aren't MASSIVELY fleshed out.

When watching gameplay footage and deciding to purchase, I was almost certain there would be a leveling system that involves experience or "blood points" to strengthen your character. I was expecting skill trees for character customization- since this is supposed to be very multiplayer focused, you should be able to specialize into roles like tank, ranged/melee damage dealers, healers, buffers, etc..

Very disappointed in this game so far. At least the Wild Eight forced you to cooperate with your team, and there was a sort of "goal" for that game. V Rising seems like one of those games where you'll run out of stuff to do (I've seen this criticism raised many times).

Any thoughts on the similarities between The Wild Eight and V Rising?

[Bomoo]

There's a lot of design plagiarism around. You often find studios that are less creative plagiarising other studios' character designs, game designs, etc.

[Rakiin]

Not the same devs, the devs of wild eight have a very bad history with games, they tend to abonden them if they don't like the numbers of players.

That's the reason why people fear that The Days Before is a scam, because same devs.

As of similarities, I don't know didn't check out The Wild Eight, only watched a few videos about V Rising, waiting for controller support before buying.

That's said devs copying game elements from other games is normal... there is only so much stuff that you can invent yourself in this day and age.

[ling.speed]

You answered your own question, quite a lot of differences between the titles. Just some themes, names or similar mechanics dont make a same game.

As for disappointment, yep the game is not as you expected... is that the gams falut? Or you reading the hype wrong. Does not even matter if game is good or not.

Originally posted by redsky1335:

since this is supposed to be very multiplayer focused, you should be able to specialize into roles like tank, ranged/melee damage dealers, healers, buffers, etc..

Not every story needs to be an action movie. No need to force the same stereotypes just becasuse they are popular. There is plenty of good games with no such specializations.

But anyways, you do get them here, they are just free to create by the players and not set in the game UI. Skill and weapon choice favorus some type of play over other. You can build tank, be dedicated healer, buff bot, ccbot, assasian, long range support etc. The only issue is that to perform those roles you need to have some basic skills down. Like every heal move is a skill shot of sorts, if you cant hit your teammates reliably you are not playing healer.

[parent child bowl]

Originally posted by redsky1335:

since this is supposed to be very multiplayer focused, you should be able to specialize into roles like tank, ranged/melee damage dealers, healers, buffers, etc..

The Holy Trinity is and has always been bad design.

[Dregora]

Originally posted by parent child bowl:

Originally posted by redsky1335:

since this is supposed to be very multiplayer focused, you should be able to specialize into roles like tank, ranged/melee damage dealers, healers, buffers, etc..

The Holy Trinity is and has always been bad design.

Why? I don't think it belongs in this game, but why is it a bad design?

[ling.speed]

Originally posted by Dregora:

Originally posted by parent child bowl:

The Holy Trinity is and has always been bad design.

Why? I don't think it belongs in this game, but why is it a bad design?

Its bad because its good. Some people dont like how it made games more accessible because they feel like they've lost something because of it.

And ofc its booring, as its too widespread because big money and creativity dont mix. But tbh its not trinitys itself fault, but devs are trying to shove it into games where complexity should come from character building, as well as using symmetrical systems between classes. Which is bad.
Try trinity in fast paced action game and its much better. One of the reasons why is that fast gameplay puts limits on how far you can take the trinity concept and so its easier to not overdo it. But good games with trinity do happen... like say For the King.