The Alters

The Alters

Maniac Jun 18, 2024 @ 2:27pm
Will the game really be only 7 ingame days long?
from the demo it feels like a day can be finished in 30 minutes so will the game only be 3,5 hours long?
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Talon Jun 18, 2024 @ 3:27pm 
I assume moving the base will reset the time to sunrise as you are moving away from the sun.
fresno16 Jun 18, 2024 @ 4:55pm 
If that's the case, what's stopping a player who knows the game from just letting the clock run out and just gathering resources until then?
Rox Jun 18, 2024 @ 5:11pm 
The 8 days is clearly just to get the base running so you can avoid the sunrise. The planet likely rotates very slowly and it's days are likely a couple of weeks long, hence the need for a mobile base. Without an environment suit and proper shielding, the radiation and heat would likely kill and cook everything on the surface.
Nikas Zekeval Jun 18, 2024 @ 5:34pm 
Originally posted by Maniac:
from the demo it feels like a day can be finished in 30 minutes so will the game only be 3,5 hours long?

Given the demo opens with the title "Prologue" and once you get moving titles that section "Journey 1"?

Sounds like the game will have you travel to an area, explore and exploit it to support and expand your base, then move on before the sun catches up to you.

From the end we see the base wheel parked on a plain, then near to a lava field, next in a canyon, followed by a Jan walking through organic fields that look to be two different environments/biomes, and maybe a few more, but the glances are quick enough it's hard to be certain.

So multiple areas to explore and exploit.

In terms of cloning, Tech Jan was two Rapidium to clone, and I had three pips and six Rapidium to start with. So two Rapidium each, for the first three clones? Or a progressive charge based on number and how far they diverge, and you need to upgrade the Quantum Computer for more Jans after three clones. Or four if the plot is going in the direction I think it is.
Last edited by Nikas Zekeval; Jun 19, 2024 @ 6:42am
Radowan Jun 19, 2024 @ 6:40am 
Exactly as my predecessor wrote. The game will be obviously divided into "Chapters" and "Journeys". Most of them will be probably time-limited (otherwise it does not make sense in survival games, you need a time stress element).

Chapter = being on a planet, collect resources, upgrade your station
Journey = travelling between locations, social encounters etc.

So, the only important questions are:
1) How many chapters/journeys will there be in the full game?
2) Is the story deterministic/linear (the Demo is pretty much linear)?
3) How many different Alters can be created?

I liked the game so far, but to be honest, if the answers to those questions are less than 7, linear and less than 20 then it is not so great... ;) But I hope not.
Nikas Zekeval Jun 19, 2024 @ 7:22am 
Originally posted by Radowan:
3) How many different Alters can be created?

Mining the trailer at the end of the demo? We have the following Jans
Builder- The original (maybe), and the PC
Technician- (made in the demo)
Botanist
Scientist
Refiner
Miner
Doctor

The most we see in one scene is seven Jans in the kitchen. The final shot for the game shows a cluster of 11 Jans if I count right.

Other items, there appears to be a research tree that unlocks at some point, I"m betting that's Scientist Jan's job. Also we get a brief screen shot of the workshop, including the ability to build more radiation filters (1 ore, 4 organics) and something called a quantum core which I suspect are needed for more Jans.
Radowan Jun 19, 2024 @ 7:46am 
Originally posted by Nikas Zekeval:
Originally posted by Radowan:
3) How many different Alters can be created?

Mining the trailer at the end of the demo? We have the following Jans
Builder- The original (maybe), and the PC
Technician- (made in the demo)
Botanist
Scientist
Refiner
Miner
Doctor

The most we see in one scene is seven Jans in the kitchen. The final shot for the game shows a cluster of 11 Jans if I count right.

Other items, there appears to be a research tree that unlocks at some point, I"m betting that's Scientist Jan's job. Also we get a brief screen shot of the workshop, including the ability to build more radiation filters (1 ore, 4 organics) and something called a quantum core which I suspect are needed for more Jans.

Ofc I have seen it - so we conclusively know nothing ;) There can be 11 Jans (less than 20) and there can be more. Depends on if you can branch only the past of the original Jan or if also branching the alternative past is possible (Alters can branch into other Alters).

Honestly, I expect the full game to have at least 1 Chapter with open world and non-linear Alters unlocking. But still it can be only linear chapters and linear unlocking (i.e. Technician, Scientist, Gardener, Cook ... without possibility to change the order in the next run).
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