Modern game like Dangerous Waters?

[Urschrei]

Guys,

I cannot believe that this game didn't get a remake or at least a game that would be similar. Isn't there really any modern game with proper graphics that lives up to this master piece? Only ♥♥♥♥♥♥ World of Warships? Nothing??

Please let me know if you know of anything published during the past five years worthy of a comparison.

Thanks!

Best,
Fabbe

[McMcDrive]

Try Cold Waters, its here in Steam, i love it. Not full real sim but much fun.

[Urschrei]

Originally posted by McMcDrive:

Try Cold Waters, its here in Steam, i love it. Not full real sim but much fun.

Thank you! Does it feature surface vessels though?

[Urschrei]

Anyone? Does Cold Waters have surface vessels natively included or are there just mods?

[Stickleback]

i have DW, still trying to work it out, ive owned i for 5 years, not once completed anything, very difficult simulator but i actually love it

[Jak]

Cold Waters is boring. CMANO can be considered and has a huge and detailed database with many surface vessels. Negative sides are it doesn't have any ''graphics'' and it's more of a strategic sim than a vehicle sim, you can't control sub-systems that much like DW.

[Sunshine]

Originally posted by McMcDrive:

Try Cold Waters, its here in Steam, i love it. Not full real sim but much fun.

Oh please. That's like someone asking for an in-depth racing sim and you suggest Mario Kart.

@Urschrei, stay away from Cold Waters, it looks nice but that's it, the game is garbage, nothing but a torpedo dodging simulator and it has nothing to do with realism.

[Urschrei]

Originally posted by Sunshine:

Originally posted by McMcDrive:

Try Cold Waters, its here in Steam, i love it. Not full real sim but much fun.

Oh please. That's like someone asking for an in-depth racing sim and you suggest Mario Kart.

@Urschrei, stay away from Cold Waters, it looks nice but that's it, the game is garbage, nothing but a torpedo dodging simulator and it has nothing to do with realism.

Thanks for your answer! What would you suggesst then? The only thing I can seem to find are older games like Dangerous Waters, Silent Hunter II + Destroyer Command, etc.

[Sunshine]

Originally posted by Urschrei:

Originally posted by Sunshine:

Oh please. That's like someone asking for an in-depth racing sim and you suggest Mario Kart.

@Urschrei, stay away from Cold Waters, it looks nice but that's it, the game is garbage, nothing but a torpedo dodging simulator and it has nothing to do with realism.

Thanks for your answer! What would you suggesst then? The only thing I can seem to find are older games like Dangerous Waters, Silent Hunter II + Destroyer Command, etc.

Well, DW (and its predecessors) are absolutely unique, there just is nothing else that is remotely comparable.

CMANO was mentioned, and I do agree there are certain similarities and vibes these titles share, but ultimately CMANO is a whole other ballpark.

Question is, why do you look for something modern, or rather, why is DW no option (anymore)?
I think it is still great, especially with mods - though... there is only one being maintained and that is so Russian biased by now, it drifted into a bad spot in my opinion.

There is still an active, yet small, MP community as well, they have a discord, the Dangerous Waters Data Link. Maybe that spices things up for you.

Again, whatever you do, stay away from Cold Waters... except you find it on some 5$ sale perhaps to see that all the warnings were justified. ;D

[Urschrei]

Originally posted by Sunshine:

Originally posted by Urschrei:

Thanks for your answer! What would you suggesst then? The only thing I can seem to find are older games like Dangerous Waters, Silent Hunter II + Destroyer Command, etc.

Well, DW (and its predecessors) are absolutely unique, there just is nothing else that is remotely comparable.

CMANO was mentioned, and I do agree there are certain similarities and vibes these titles share, but ultimately CMANO is a whole other ballpark.

Question is, why do you look for something modern, or rather, why is DW no option (anymore)?
I think it is still great, especially with mods - though... there is only one being maintained and that is so Russian biased by now, it drifted into a bad spot in my opinion.

There is still an active, yet small, MP community as well, they have a discord, the Dangerous Waters Data Link. Maybe that spices things up for you.

Again, whatever you do, stay away from Cold Waters... except you find it on some 5$ sale perhaps to see that all the warnings were justified. ;D

Thats great feedback, thank you man! I have already looked at some DW gameplay and it seemed pretty dull after having spent my youth with SH and similar sims.

[Sunshine]

Really depends on what you're looking for. Dangerous Waters, as I said before, is really unique and it just doesn't compare to Silent Hunter in my opinion.

Dangerous Waters is often referred to as a "sensor sim", and that's also what I call it.
Sure, you command every aspect of the sub, but ultimately the point of the sim is mastering the sensors, which are very in-depth and also vary from platform to platform. Driving a Kilo-class is something completely different compared to flying the P-3 Orion, and that's awesome.

If you think that "poking in the dark" for a long time, looking for some contact, identify, track and ultimately sink it is your thing, DW is for you.

Be sure to check out FPSchazly on YouTube, he is a staple of the community and has a TON of entertaining as well as educational videos about Dangerous Waters and his gameplay will give you a solid idea of what to expect if you want to go for the "realistic approach".

[Urschrei]

Originally posted by Sunshine:

Really depends on what you're looking for. Dangerous Waters, as I said before, is really unique and it just doesn't compare to Silent Hunter in my opinion.

Dangerous Waters is often referred to as a "sensor sim", and that's also what I call it.
Sure, you command every aspect of the sub, but ultimately the point of the sim is mastering the sensors, which are very in-depth and also vary from platform to platform. Driving a Kilo-class is something completely different compared to flying the P-3 Orion, and that's awesome.

If you think that "poking in the dark" for a long time, looking for some contact, identify, track and ultimately sink it is your thing, DW is for you.

Be sure to check out FPSchazly on YouTube, he is a staple of the community and has a TON of entertaining as well as educational videos about Dangerous Waters and his gameplay will give you a solid idea of what to expect if you want to go for the "realistic approach".

Perfect, again, thank you!

[Sunshine]

You're welcome!

[BTZ]

I can say for sure, that there will be no such product as DW in near 5-10 year timeframe, or even more. It's too expensive to develop and very genre specific and has no lootboxes. Amount of algorithms in DW is unimaginable, I guess only the CMANO has more algorithms and data models with deep simulation in it (and ARMA for surface warfare). Everything else just fall apart in comparison with these two, may be only Silent Hunter 3-5, but they more on arcade style.

[Urschrei]

Originally posted by BTZ:

I can say for sure, that there will be no such product as DW in near 5-10 year timeframe, or even more. It's too expensive to develop and very genre specific and has no lootboxes. Amount of algorithms in DW is unimaginable, I guess only the CMANO has more algorithms and data models with deep simulation in it (and ARMA for surface warfare). Everything else just fall apart in comparison with these two, may be only Silent Hunter 3-5, but they more on arcade style.

THANK YOU!

[btrue]

Originally posted by Sunshine:

Again, whatever you do, stay away from Cold Waters... except you find it on some 5$ sale perhaps to see that all the warnings were justified. ;D

I'm not sure why you hate Cold Waters so much. I have watched countless hours of people streaming it and played it a little myself and there really isn't anything wrong with it, other than it being an arcade-style torpedo dodging simulator. It's a fun game when you have a limited amount of time and want to get right into some submarine combat. Obviously Dangerous Waters and the previous games are the only real submarine simulators ever made, but Cold Waters can be a ton of fun if you treat it like a Hollywood action movie and just lower your expectations while doing crazy things like leading the enemy's torpedo back into them or surfacing as aggressively as possible next to a convoy and then shooting harpoons at everyone.