just 1% are level 60 ?!

[Latarius]

I just returned, geared up to 1490, did the Elgacia Map, then boosted to 1580 and Im now level 60 and got the archivment wich tells me that just 1% of the player base is 60, is this game so dead ?

[Naiiko_]

in 2022 the game had a big Hype and people did not go up to level 60, only a handful of players remained out of the millions who launched the game in 2022 and almost all players are in endgame Tier 4 1640+ iLvl

[Kirinketsu]

It took a long time to hit 60, like 5 to 8 weeks based on how much content you did. The game had millions of players, many quit after realizing the game was an MMORPG, many thought it was a MOBA or was like D3/PoE and didnt make it far.

[Latarius]

Originally posted by Shun Pinocchio Syndrom&Hypocrite:

level 70 is the new max now.

I know that 70 is new may, but The Archivment dont say that its 1% level 60 yet, it says just 1% Reached level 60 at all, thats different, that means that this game dont have any playerbase left.

[Nipples]

Originally posted by Latarius:

Originally posted by Shun Pinocchio Syndrom&Hypocrite:

level 70 is the new max now.

I know that 70 is new may, but The Archivment dont say that its 1% level 60 yet, it says just 1% Reached level 60 at all, thats different, that means that this game dont have any playerbase left.

Hahaha that means like 0.01% are prolly 70. Indeed a vast majority of players quit well before that even though it doesn't take too much effort to get. I mean out of the friends i know that tried the game they all quit besides for one for a multitude of reasons that have been pointed out and ignored or spoken against from the vet community multiple times. With these changes that a vast majority want and will never see due to the current player base against it, people have no choice but to accept the game will never become what they hope for it to become and have little choice but to quit or torture themselves.

Though bots also prolly skew those numbers since they dont reach 60. They make their gold transfer it, and continue to as long as they can until banned, then remake on new accounts and repeat i'm guessing. Though bots don't hurt the game as much as people say. It really only affects the tryhard elitists. at end end game.

Funny thing is, you won't even get accepted into a party for end game stuff without lvl 70 or close to it i imagine. So you can imagine the disparity if less than 1% make it to even just 60.
I reinstalled a month ago and all my characters were 60. THey're all around 63-64 now besides for my main thats 69 and another using the strronghold boost at 67.

[Latarius]

Originally posted by Nipples:

Originally posted by Latarius:

I know that 70 is new may, but The Archivment dont say that its 1% level 60 yet, it says just 1% Reached level 60 at all, thats different, that means that this game dont have any playerbase left.

Hahaha that means like 0.01% are prolly 70. Indeed a vast majority of players quit well before that even though it doesn't take too much effort to get. I mean out of the friends i know that tried the game they all quit besides for one for a multitude of reasons that have been pointed out and ignored or spoken against from the vet community multiple times. With these changes that a vast majority want and will never see due to the current player base against it, people have no choice but to accept the game will never become what they hope for it to become and have little choice but to quit or torture themselves.

Though bots also prolly skew those numbers since they dont reach 60. They make their gold transfer it, and continue to as long as they can until banned, then remake on new accounts and repeat i'm guessing. Though bots don't hurt the game as much as people say. It really only affects the tryhard elitists. at end end game.

Funny thing is, you won't even get accepted into a party for end game stuff without lvl 70 or close to it i imagine. So you can imagine the disparity if less than 1% make it to even just 60.
I reinstalled a month ago and all my characters were 60. THey're all around 63-64 now besides for my main thats 69 and another using the strronghold boost at 67.

Yeah I tryed to join aValtan HM grp with 1490 but there where 1600+ and refused to accept me, I klicked thouth all the raid stuff and there wherent any partys at all, So I dont know, why this is called an MMO if you do everything within a "Solo" dungeon at all ... I was looking to play a game together with my gf, but there is no content you can enjoy together, cause you either have to run solo or in a full party/raid.

[Kirinketsu]

Since the start of this month or last month theres been a total of 517k characters active in the game and 126k players. We finally have the real numbers and as I have said multiple times bozos on here have no clue how Steam Chart numbers work.
https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/stats/generic

Theres 150k active 1660+ characters in the game right now, the avg player in the game has 4 characters which means theres 37.5k people playing right now who have 1660s, realistic most people dont have multiple 1660+, so if we drop it to 2 1660+ a roster thats 75k+ acounts with 1660+

If we factor in only 1640 that number increases by over 2x which is 75k accounts, this dosent include account who do not have a 1640 character.

Just from 1640 character if we go with the lowest number of 94k accounts which have 1640+ that are likely lv 60+ that means 9.4M account were made...this is from active accounts from this month. So if we just factor this number by 5x thats 47m total accounts or a total of 470k accounts that reached lv 60. which is still likely very low. That number is likely nearly double or triple that.

[Nipples]

Originally posted by Latarius:

Originally posted by Nipples:

Hahaha that means like 0.01% are prolly 70. Indeed a vast majority of players quit well before that even though it doesn't take too much effort to get. I mean out of the friends i know that tried the game they all quit besides for one for a multitude of reasons that have been pointed out and ignored or spoken against from the vet community multiple times. With these changes that a vast majority want and will never see due to the current player base against it, people have no choice but to accept the game will never become what they hope for it to become and have little choice but to quit or torture themselves.

Though bots also prolly skew those numbers since they dont reach 60. They make their gold transfer it, and continue to as long as they can until banned, then remake on new accounts and repeat i'm guessing. Though bots don't hurt the game as much as people say. It really only affects the tryhard elitists. at end end game.

Funny thing is, you won't even get accepted into a party for end game stuff without lvl 70 or close to it i imagine. So you can imagine the disparity if less than 1% make it to even just 60.
I reinstalled a month ago and all my characters were 60. THey're all around 63-64 now besides for my main thats 69 and another using the strronghold boost at 67.

Yeah I tryed to join aValtan HM grp with 1490 but there where 1600+ and refused to accept me, I klicked thouth all the raid stuff and there wherent any partys at all, So I dont know, why this is called an MMO if you do everything within a "Solo" dungeon at all ... I was looking to play a game together with my gf, but there is no content you can enjoy together, cause you either have to run solo or in a full party/raid.

Yea the condition the games in, it's almost impossible for u to play with 1 friend other than i guess guardian raids and chaos dungeons. All the legion raids are 4-8-16 people with no options in between. it's not an mmo at all honestly. just a set team raid simulator more or less with horrible systems in play that make people not want to play with each other.

It's a sad shame cause with some changes that focus on more people having fun and less catering to the elitist addicts, the game could be amazing for so many more people. But years of people asking for real change, and it's only gotten worse with a bigger divide between casual players and delusional nutjobs who spend all day doing math to justify their bubble they live in.

[Kirinketsu]

Originally posted by Nipples:

i mean realistically, there was alot of 1640 bots cause of the last event. I saw so many at the beginning of south kurzan.

Misinformation as usually
South Kurzan is 1580 not 1620/1640, bots arnt honing to 1640 outside of the ignite servers which ended what 6 months ago, which those bots have been banned since then and are not part of this data.

Theres like 9,300, 1700+ if 90% of them belong to different rosters thats 8,100 players, yeah man all 8k of them all know each other, 100% they all sit in the busing discord you seen from Stoopz stream and chat everyday.

[D0DECA]

Was there a Ban Wave™ between May 2024 and January 2025? I don't know if they announced anything in the echochamber, but looking at the graphs, several post here and on reddit it seems like they only recently took another big swing against the bots.

I'd like to know how this site collects and processes data. And if they are able to differentiate between legit unique players, users with multiple rosters and accounts and of course bots. There is some discussion about it on reddit, but there seems to be no official info so far.

I'm assuming the data might be somewhat unreliable, at least until we know how it is generated.

[pete365]

Originally posted by Kirinketsu:

Originally posted by Nipples:

i mean realistically, there was alot of 1640 bots cause of the last event. I saw so many at the beginning of south kurzan.

Misinformation as usually
South Kurzan is 1580 not 1620/1640, bots arnt honing to 1640 outside of the ignite servers which ended what 6 months ago, which those bots have been banned since then and are not part of this data.

Theres like 9,300, 1700+ if 90% of them belong to different rosters thats 8,100 players, yeah man all 8k of them all know each other, 100% they all sit in the busing discord you seen from Stoopz stream and chat everyday.

lmao, truly eat sh!t and can not think clearly huh Kirin, the ignite server ended on Nov 27 , 2024 , which still less than 3 months. It only takes 2 days to make a 1620-1640 fresh from that server , you like to look at that website uwwowo, there are 37k rosters with highest ilevel is 1640 , which means these roster are just alt rosters. 😂

[Nipples]

Originally posted by Kirinketsu:

Originally posted by Nipples:

i mean realistically, there was alot of 1640 bots cause of the last event. I saw so many at the beginning of south kurzan.

Misinformation as usually
South Kurzan is 1580 not 1620/1640, bots arnt honing to 1640 outside of the ignite servers which ended what 6 months ago, which those bots have been banned since then and are not part of this data.

Theres like 9,300, 1700+ if 90% of them belong to different rosters thats 8,100 players, yeah man all 8k of them all know each other, 100% they all sit in the busing discord you seen from Stoopz stream and chat everyday.

dude ur such a turd. no misinformation, just cause u don't wanna believe it, doesn't mean i wasn't at the port at south kurzan watching bot after bot doing bot things.

I mean i used the event pass. it put me at 1640 and dumped me in kurzan so i dunno what ur going on about. noone cares about ur stupid numbers.

[Nipples]

Originally posted by pete365:

Originally posted by Kirinketsu:

Misinformation as usually
South Kurzan is 1580 not 1620/1640, bots arnt honing to 1640 outside of the ignite servers which ended what 6 months ago, which those bots have been banned since then and are not part of this data.

Theres like 9,300, 1700+ if 90% of them belong to different rosters thats 8,100 players, yeah man all 8k of them all know each other, 100% they all sit in the busing discord you seen from Stoopz stream and chat everyday.

lmao, truly eat sh!t and can not think clearly huh Kirin, the ignite server ended on Nov 27 , 2024 , which still less than 3 months. It only takes 2 days to make a 1620-1640 fresh from that server , you like to look at that website uwwowo, there are 37k rosters with highest ilevel is 1640 , which means these roster are just alt rosters. 😂

i reinstalled 1 month ago, my sf was 1590, i used the event pass and i was instantly 1640 and in kurzan. saw tons of bots at the port that were 1640 probably making new accounts and used that same event pass a bunch a month ago same time when i did. Dunno what this goons issue is that he can't understand that. I shoulda taken vid clips of it to break his brain that's trapped in a bubble of his own delusions.

Also lul i love how u keep calling this toolbag out.

[Kirinketsu]

This could be wrong but from my understanding they are tapping into the API that was added.
They finally added the API a few months ago, it was live in the game for a few days if not a week, it allowed you to see all of the sales data on the AH...expect it was pulling from the KR servers so it was quickly disable.

From my understanding they tapped into that code and made their own site using it, thats why it logs character activity every time you log onto a character like how loawa does for KR.

As for ban waves, they are always doing ban waves, its just the factor of the ban wave size.
Typically bans are done 3 ways in games.

#1 you get flagged by the anticheat system for using a know program used to cheat/hack the game.

#2 you get mass reported which places your account in a priority queue to be reviewed

#3 you are placed in a pool to be reviewed from being fagged by the anticheat system that believes you might be using 3rd party software or behaving in the game in a way that is cheating.

#3 is how mass bans are issue and its the most problematic.
You can be banned from false positive and once you are banned it can be very hard to get someone to care to look into your account to unbanned you.

[Kirinketsu]

Originally posted by Nipples:

i reinstalled 1 month ago, my sf was 1590, i used the event pass and i was instantly 1640 and in kurzan. saw tons of bots at the port that were 1640 probably making new accounts and used that same event pass a bunch a month ago same time when i did. Dunno what this goons issue is that he can't understand that. I shoulda taken vid clips of it to break his brain that's trapped in a bubble of his own delusions.

Also lul i love how u keep calling this toolbag out.

.....https://www.playlostark.com/en-us/game/releases/winter-soloist

"South Kurzan Powerpasses have been added to the store, along with a free event one granted to players. Using a South Kurzan Powerpass will drop the designated character off at Item Level 1580 as if they have completed the South Kurzan storyline. This Event Powerpass will be available to use until February 26, 2025."

The power pass is 1580

"The honing missions will grant Hellfire Honing Books and Gold as you hone your gear over Item Level 1640. The Echidna missions will grant Agris’s Scales, Alcaone’s Eye and the new Advanced Honing Support material, and the Behemoth missions will grant Behemoth’s Scales and Weapon Transcendence Restoration Tickets. The Icy Breakthrough Event will last until February 26, 2025."

You have to hon from 1580 to 1620... instantly btw

Yeah sure I so believe you, you so seen tons of 1640 bots walking around, yep 100% the bots were 1640 cause they instantly got to 1640, they so had years worth of mats saved up and had the gold and silver to instantly be 1640 cause you just instantly get placed at 1640 right... and they are in SK which means they must be 1640 right its not a 1580 zone... also they so were giving new bot account trusted.

[Kirinketsu]

Originally posted by pete365:

Nov 27 , 2024 , which still less than 3 months. It only takes 2 days to make a 1620-1640 fresh from that server , you like to look at that website uwwowo, there are 37k rosters with highest ilevel is 1640 , which means these roster are just alt rosters. 😂

umm they banned those account in the Dec wave, assuming they made it to the live server, many were stopped in the transfer process

btw would you like a link to our bus discord? or let me know the region and I will get you with the right discord. You better get as little unbound gold in as you can even if it means giving us 80% of it, because it looks like KR might be making all raids under 1660 bound gold soon.