Game Never Felt This Dead

[Onnela]

Started progging a few days late and it's over. It was never like this before.

[Nipples]

i just treat it like a solo rpg.

[Phoenix (yes, another one)]

Originally posted by Nipples:

i just treat it like a solo rpg.

If I were to install it again, that's how I'd treat it as well, a solo game, with a bunch of NPCs running around. The forced reliance on other players to progress is what pushed me away, but solo mode for most higher end dungeons, and raids is tempting me to come back.

[Shammy]

You can thank all of the toxic, neckbeard sweaty try hards that advocated for moar raids and gatekept all classes and characters they deemed unworthy of their time for raids.

After over 1,000 hours since launch within the first year, I quit because of that BS. God it felt good.

[Nipples]

Originally posted by Phoenix (yes, another one):

Originally posted by Nipples:

i just treat it like a solo rpg.

If I were to install it again, that's how I'd treat it as well, a solo game, with a bunch of NPCs running around. The forced reliance on other players to progress is what pushed me away, but solo mode for most higher end dungeons, and raids is tempting me to come back.

Yea i mean i'm a good 5-6 raids behind the newest content, but i don't care. game is unplayable without solo options for me. It's still pretty terrible with insanely horrible rng systems left and right on top of new systems coming nonstop. But atleast i can do some raids without dealing with the toxic community now. Solo raids are more forgiving also.

Alot isn't solo balanced though like guardian raids. Trying to solo it is like 3 times harder than with groups even if u mvp 50% in group guardian raids. I just dispatch my guardian raids now since they take too long solo and anything below 1640 is completely dead with noone to do anything with even if u wanted to.

Honing to 1580 is pretty cheap and doable just by playing. to 1600 is meh, u won't make enough gold from the raids u can do to hone without finding other means to make gold or swiping. And 1600+ is stupid. most end game people are 1680+ but sometimes there's passes that dump u at 1640. but then ur kinda stuck there without spending obscene amounts. and there's like 3 raids or more above 1640 i think

[Nipples]

Originally posted by Shammy:

You can thank all of the toxic, neckbeard sweaty try hards that advocated for moar raids and gatekept all classes and characters they deemed unworthy of their time for raids.

After over 1,000 hours since launch within the first year, I quit because of that BS. God it felt good.

Yea, i mean with more raids being at higher ilvl, it creates an even bigger divide between new/returning, and sweaty tryhards. As long as content is timegated there will never be a real way to catch up by playing. and they've got people wrapped around their fingers by controlling players with events that still make sure u don't have enough, to encourage swiping.

The usual predatory tactics of the people running this game.

And yes quitting lost ark was the best feeling i ever had in all of my gaming history. sadly after a year, i'm back and i hate myself once again. Atleast i can just solo things. but the rng and garbage systems are so predatory and bad that i already swiped to deal with bs even though i said i'd never support this game and spend a single time on it again. I hate myself for it, but the predatory tactics they apply sadly work.

[Phoenix (yes, another one)]

Originally posted by Nipples:

Originally posted by Phoenix (yes, another one):

If I were to install it again, that's how I'd treat it as well, a solo game, with a bunch of NPCs running around. The forced reliance on other players to progress is what pushed me away, but solo mode for most higher end dungeons, and raids is tempting me to come back.

Yea i mean i'm a good 5-6 raids behind the newest content, but i don't care. game is unplayable without solo options for me. It's still pretty terrible with insanely horrible rng systems left and right on top of new systems coming nonstop. But atleast i can do some raids without dealing with the toxic community now. Solo raids are more forgiving also.

Alot isn't solo balanced though like guardian raids. Trying to solo it is like 3 times harder than with groups even if u mvp 50% in group guardian raids. I just dispatch my guardian raids now since they take too long solo and anything below 1640 is completely dead with noone to do anything with even if u wanted to.

Honing to 1580 is pretty cheap and doable just by playing. to 1600 is meh, u won't make enough gold from the raids u can do to hone without finding other means to make gold or swiping. And 1600+ is stupid. most end game people are 1680+ but sometimes there's passes that dump u at 1640. but then ur kinda stuck there without spending obscene amounts. and there's like 3 raids or more above 1640 i think

If I were to play again, I'd just be messing around with a bunch of characters, since I've never really been a play only one character type person. I really wouldn't care if I was in the top end stuff, or would be pushing for the higher end enhancement values. Right now I'd likely have my more active chars parked at around 1600, doing whatever, because I wanted to, not because I felt I had to.

It's just that with how things were before, even though I wanted to do that, I still HAD to try to keep up to some degree, then HAD to play with others, and often enough, they sucked, to the point I'd suspect some were while human, as they would talk, were purposely trying to sabotage the raid, or whatever. You had to waste soooooo much time getting teams, repeating easy things many times, as someone was a bot, or a moron, then sit there while some ranted, blaming everyone else, even if they were screwing up too, it just drained all the fun out of playing.

[Nipples]

Originally posted by Phoenix (yes, another one):

Originally posted by Nipples:

Yea i mean i'm a good 5-6 raids behind the newest content, but i don't care. game is unplayable without solo options for me. It's still pretty terrible with insanely horrible rng systems left and right on top of new systems coming nonstop. But atleast i can do some raids without dealing with the toxic community now. Solo raids are more forgiving also.

Alot isn't solo balanced though like guardian raids. Trying to solo it is like 3 times harder than with groups even if u mvp 50% in group guardian raids. I just dispatch my guardian raids now since they take too long solo and anything below 1640 is completely dead with noone to do anything with even if u wanted to.

Honing to 1580 is pretty cheap and doable just by playing. to 1600 is meh, u won't make enough gold from the raids u can do to hone without finding other means to make gold or swiping. And 1600+ is stupid. most end game people are 1680+ but sometimes there's passes that dump u at 1640. but then ur kinda stuck there without spending obscene amounts. and there's like 3 raids or more above 1640 i think

If I were to play again, I'd just be messing around with a bunch of characters, since I've never really been a play only one character type person. I really wouldn't care if I was in the top end stuff, or would be pushing for the higher end enhancement values. Right now I'd likely have my more active chars parked at around 1600, doing whatever, because I wanted to, not because I felt I had to.

It's just that with how things were before, even though I wanted to do that, I still HAD to try to keep up to some degree, then HAD to play with others, and often enough, they sucked, to the point I'd suspect some were while human, as they would talk, were purposely trying to sabotage the raid, or whatever. You had to waste soooooo much time getting teams, repeating easy things many times, as someone was a bot, or a moron, then sit there while some ranted, blaming everyone else, even if they were screwing up too, it just drained all the fun out of playing.

Omg dude, that's literally exactly where i'm at. The raids, and lobby simulator, and hopping around trying to find a non miserable toxic fake discord or group zapped all joy from me and actually left me with social anxieties, misanthropic hate, and severe depression so i quit for a year and just came back 3 weeks ago.

What you want is exactly in line with what i want and do. I have 26 characters right now, One of each character i can try and with free 5x3 along with the option to mail up to 20 accesories a day between all my characters, i can try multiple builds which is so much fun for me. in fact the most fun part of the game imo.

One of them is 1645 cause of the pass, but the cost is obscene i realized to keep honing and the amount of systems that i have to learn that make no sense to me and i don't find fun, make me not wanna play. So i don't even have that 1 main as a gold earner.

The rest are at 1600 or around it. I wanted to push them all to 1619 so i can do brel, kayangel, and akkan on each of them for awhile, but the cost is not worth it i realized after spending like 100k just for 2.5 ilvl's. up to 1580 is fun, and up to 1600 is reasonable. I still have some 1580's left. but what i realized is if u finish the south kurzan story on your 1580's it's only 1100 royal cystals to get free akkan gear up to ilvl 1600 with a paid power pass.

As filthy as it feels to spend 10 bucks for those 20 ilvls on a few characters. the gold cost to swipe for it would be alot more, and gold income after 6 characters is detrimental for honing or building up extra alts. So i'll never make enough to keep a full roster of 26 characters up with how bad the gold rewards are along with them being time gated AND limited to 6 characters.

The game is still extremely predatory in every way it can be, but these soloraid options make the game so much more fun and playable for me and many others. I think you'd have fun with solomode up til 1600 for sure or until the amount of predatory systems make u sick to your stomach as u fall short on everything based on rng and have zero reasonable or fun ways to make gold anymore til the next week over and over again.

The elixir cost is so stupid, 140 per roll, and 10 rolls each so 1400 each, and that x 5 armors so it's 7000 just to put any elixers on ur 5 armors. but then the rng on them to get the 40 set bonus could take u 20-30 or more elixirs to get. focusing on getting that 40 set bonus for the "master order and master chaos" for the glove and helm to get 7 percent crit rate and 8.5 percent more damage on each piece is such a big difference too that it feels unreasonable to not go for it once u waste thousands of gold learning the system.

Then if u want a full big roster cause that's what people like me and you enjoy to try every character. that just amplifies gold costs down the line. for now i only got my 40 set on the event characters and a few 35 sets. U can get 3 elixirs per character to roll each week from the solo raid shop, but when adding up the costs to roll all of them on all 26 characters each week thats' 105k gold each week lul.

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yaya u all left and still writing here lol ,bla bla at steam, the real ones dont write here, the yhave guild and DC

[Tariffs are a tax on your bill]

So yeah, dead.

[pete365]

lmao, only addicted losers continue to spend a lot of time and money for this L game. Even some big KR streamers just call it quit recently. Trash p2w to the finest, couple with a L publisher like AGS this game is done this year in the West

[ⒺⒹⒼⒾⓃⒼ]

Originally posted by pete365:

lmao, only addicted losers continue to spend a lot of time and money for this L game. Even some big KR streamers just call it quit recently. Trash p2w to the finest, couple with a L publisher like AGS this game is done this year in the West

umm what ''bigg KR'' streamers??
the highest KR stream i seen had what.....74 viewers?! lol

[Dslim]

Average 27k players, i bet half those are bots.

[Warlock]

have played until 50 now maybe seen 2 people.... what the fck this game is dead

[Tariffs are a tax on your bill]

Originally posted by ZeroSuitSamus:

Originally posted by pete365:

lmao, only addicted losers continue to spend a lot of time and money for this L game. Even some big KR streamers just call it quit recently. Trash p2w to the finest, couple with a L publisher like AGS this game is done this year in the West

umm what ''bigg KR'' streamers??
the highest KR stream i seen had what.....74 viewers?! lol

The big streamers Pete mentioned do not stream in Twitch anymore. They moved to another already due to withdrawal of Twitch from south korea. For instance, one of said streamers has consistent 10k+ viewership.

[*Sapphyre]

Originally posted by Dslim:

Average 27k players, i bet half those are bots.

Yes, there are a lot of bots. Again and again. To AGS it's fine keeping this stuff in the game. This is an old issue and it will never get a fix.