Lost Ark
the game is in a DISGUSTING state.
The game is in a DISGUSTING state.

To be able to play the game, the raid rewards are not enough. So to be able to play the game and win the content, you need the extra gold that is obtained thanks to unfair practices of the game, with the sale of boosting \ bussing lobbies (not banned) instances from the game system.


the gold required to be able to go up in rank (gs) is a lot.

- the gold required to be able to achieve even just 'advanced honing lvl 10-20 is a lot (and soon it will be lvl 40)

- the new random progression system of the Karma System

- In short, to be able to play raids of gs rank 1620 (Behemoth), you need to be at least 1660 and always be lucky enough to always be accepted into a group.

- to be able to play aegir raid 1660 (very easy game raid) you need to be at least 1680 + obviously with all the game raids completed

- the lack of support classes in the final contents

- The presence of Boosting \ bussing lobbies instances where they go to remove players who would otherwise be forced to learn the game (so the creation of new queues to be able to play the game)

- They also go to remove veteran players who could help the players REALLY in being able to PLAY and win the weekly game raids.

- Instead, the community of veterans of this game COMPLICIT of a WRONG or "corrupt" or " blind" game support system since it does not actually ban Boosting \ bussing game practices within its game "lost ark".
So we see the creation of veteran players having in their characters \ roster engraving characters with full relic books and gems (calculated for 1 character only) with a value of 29M golds ( without having calculated the cost \ value and resources to have maxed equipment + armor + weapons +23\+25 + advanced honing full +20 ). when playing legit if it goes well you can make 200k gold weekly. (and instead a new player starts the game with only 1 character)

- A creation of "players" of gold system division unsurpassed and unattainable.

- With the consequence of not being able to play the game or to start 1 game both of game and learning, this also because, the raid titles won (10x) are null, because people can win and complete these game raids simply by paying with game money, according to afk (game money can be exchanged for real money in the f4 game shop)

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What I expect to be done:, nerf gold \ materials \ destroy and rework the current progression of PREGRESSION game through weekly raids through a NON rng and random system, then bring the game back as it was with the raids idi game previously ex: ( ancient alveria , pahntom palace , ark or arrogance , gate of paradise , oreha's well , argos , valtan , vykas , kakul - saydon , brelshaza , kayangel , akkan , Aegir )

- what I expect to be done is to BANN ANY BOOSTING \ BUSSING LOBBIS PRACTICE WITHIN THE GAME
and abide by the rules of the amazon games code of conduct and activate the corresponding ban of boosting within the pve game mode.

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I also expect that the SoloMode mode will be UPDATED with all the game raids (or at most except for the latest game content released) in addition to its corresponding difficulties (therefore added HM) this also because now, BOUNDGOLD is present, so people are still OBLIGED to play the group mode if they want to get exchangeable gold the gold diversity must be EQUAL or maximum of 5\10% difference and NOT more.

if it says "the game is a mmo it should not be able to let you play alone"

then why can people in premades complete 16 person content, when there are only 4 of them ?

then why can premades complete 8 person game content when there are only 3 of them ?

then why can preamdes complete 8 person game content when there are only 2 of them ?
plus increase their gold and funds INFINITY thanks to the sale of game systems instances of boosting \ bussing lobbies + creation of destruction of public matchmaking, and destroy any validity of the raids obtained from previous game content (ex bahamoth eyes of tempest, Aegir, the Oppressor … etc.)

So in SoloMode if these changes are adopted, people can learn the game raids EQUAL to the public game mode thanks to the fact that there are both normal and HM game modes.

With the only lack of the last one game content , however, people HAVE ALL THE NECESSARY BASICS AND RESOURCES that if they are GOOD they can still REACH THE FINAL CONTENT IN COMPLETE AUTONOMY and therefore be able to play the game ALWAYS AND IN ANY CASE REGARDLESS OF THE TIME AND THE SITUATION, as long PROVIDED that they are good.

If the game is an "mmo" and therefore you need to be able to play together with other people

- In SoloMode, in addition to merging the 2 queues between Solo modes with the queues of the public mode (to be able to definitively destroy the getting stuck in the middle of the "gatekeeping" game queues).

- In addition to being able to play alone, in the solo game mode: it could be unlocked and allowed to let you play together even in premades with friends from your friendlist, so my idea would be that in the usual mode for each game raid present you can play together with other people (obviously increasing the difficulty) adopting that for each corresponding game raid the player SLOT entry must be -50% compared to the public game mode.

EXAMPLE raid of 4 people (kakul) maximum 2 people
EXAMPLE raid of 8 PEOPLE (maximum 4 people)
EXAMPLE raid of 16 people (maximum 8 people)

""small recap If these changes are not adopted, and continues to follow the direction that is currently running in Korea, the game has no point in being played and existing. """

released Unbiased Game Feedback based on real numbers and facts \ no conflicts of interest \ no profit motive.
09\03\ 2025
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από MEZZO TOSSICO; 9 Μαρ, 5:25
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im honing my x6 1690 F2P nonbusser, you doing something wrong
[part1] First of all I want to clarify, that it is NOT possible to deny the fact that the following game Lost Ark is not a P2W game title (the ability to buy items for enchantes gear honing your char in the shop with real money, the ability to buy gold ingame for real money currency in the shop and you can also to buy from Others players where you can find Freely play instances and unbanned play practices by name 015\025\060 etc. or on discord sites\website bussing lobbies to win in-game content for you , so by "calling cleary" you are paying to win.) and currently that it IS NOT in a disgusting and unplayable state "certainly ladies and gentlemen". This is because they are all statements based on the changes made to the game over time by the relative game support, by poor management and the non-implementation of its relative game regulations example (bot ban, without automatic identification systems where they can identify if you are a real person or not - Implementation of the code of conduct in point 2 regarding the ban regarding boosting. " which is what happens inside the instances called by the game support system "bussing " and not banned) \ and others . With an ever and constant fallout and uselessness of the updates made and the corresponding "relative" fixes.
- In fact the core of my arguments is based on purely objective facts. And only a censorship as has currently been done with the latest Party Finder Policy Adjustments & Reminders regulation without going to ban the the practice itself, can "temporarily plug the hole in the dam or not even do that" without however going to change the reality of the facts and things. In fact, it did not bring any real and concrete improvement within the game, because the bussing instances are not banned and are constantly present and active, so what was the point of this update?

- Very well thanks, having said that we can start.


- First of all I am happy and content for you that you managed to have 6 1690 characters from f2p as you say (so your steam account must not have shopped with real money not even 1 powerpass or crystalin aura, which in the past was very useful and speeded up the times and the completion of the game, but also a little now) but this is the least.

- But the problem of people like you @LordRobson who continue to defend the game even now, it would be appreciated and would help people a lot to understand that what you are saying is the truth, with the addition in addition to this information that you have given and STATEMENT, first of all explain how you managed to do it \ this time you spent \ and the related costs by listing on the basis of numbers and facts therefore: list if with 6 characters that you have brought to 1690 they are all of different classes or equal classes with the same build (therefore saving and optimizing the cost of gems), the relative gold that you currently have, the relative level of gems you have, your relative level of advanced honing and equip gear, list the costs that require it, and the time it takes.
And also the time it takes for a person who starts the game from scratch, in the current state of the game and in f2p mode without selling bussing \ boosting instances as you say, the time it takes to get to your level of progression with the various set enhancements to date:

- Elixir lvl 40 5 + 5 (also the secondary effect of the main statistic lvl 5 is important, not for the beginning but it is still important) - trancence armor - Echina advanced honing lvl 10 + lvl 20 - transcendence weapon (game raid not present solomode) - set gear aegir 6 pieces (not present SoloMode) - Karma system kazeros Brelshaza (not present solomode) now you want to tell me that on 6 characters from f2p without selling the bussing \ boosting lobbies, you managed to get everything, and also have already completed all of these raid progression bonus maxed out + the karma system which if it is not worse is the same as the first release when they were previously Elixir. . + then we also have ability stone lvl 5 to do (for the beginning 1+1 \ 2+1 \ 2+2+ \ 3+1 are fine of course) but for later? + engraving book + card system + bracelets + quality items + sidereal.

- you didn't even specify if you play hm \ nm content and how many \ which ones.
-the gold you get and farming every week

- Otherwise how can people verify that what you are saying is the truth? or that they can reach such levels of progression in the game in a f2p way as you say.

- What I think is that you are most likely telling the truth, but simply however, with the fact that you are simply a veteran person of the game, who went to play the game without almost ever stopping, therefore managing to obtain all the various prizes that have been given with the various events since the game came out, in addition having a FIXED group of people of game to whom you can play and having a fixed queue of game between you therefore, being able to learn the game being able to play it and being able to win it. surely Without going to maximize or set up correctly and as efficiently as possible every single character you play . Consequently you manage thanks to this to obtain the 10x title of the raids to almost always have between you the 2 supports to be able to play the final game contents.
(so fed a conservative game system)
This is because: since instances of game progression and learning of raids are almost exclusively present in the FRIST or second week after the release of each new game raid. And already after a few days we can see instances of game with "reclear" written on them.
- not to mention that those who play the support class, almost always play exclusively with their own gaming group team. (this is why the lack of support classes compared to dps classes is created and is evident in the final content of the game)
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you did not explain how long it takes to bring at least the advanced honing weapon lvl 20 for each character and the related costs and how long it took you + the relevant times
- you did not explain the equipment lvl 10 on 5 pieces of set and the related costs of the advanced honing + the relevant times
-you did not explain the cost and how long it took you to bring equipment of gear level lvl + 18 + 19 and the related costs. + the relevant times
- -you did not explain the cost and how long it took to bring equipment full transcendence + elixir always require a lot of time without the events, and then activate them, because "on average" 35 vials are needed to be able to bring a level 40 set even with only 1 of the 2 correct bonuses.
+ karma system
+ everything else

And ALL This does not take away the fact that, at the current state of costs, even playing and following this method of you currently played, it is not possible to continue playing the game in its entirety, (So all the content + hm and so modes not present in the SoloMode for it is a fact that in order to play such content the gold and the character progression that comes from it is basically unattainable ) and this is not only for a new player who starts the game with 1 character but also for veteran people like you who play in premades with oters and not selling bussing \ boosting lobbis to be able to get extra golds .

-who has managed to reach a level of progression like yours,( without getting extra gold from selling bussing room as you say and in f2p way) )
- without actually having to explain anything practical example : "a bit like saying, look, my water keeps me young and fresh" without actually explaining the reason for such a statement (in addition to being crazy and insane to say that water can do this, right?)

- Tell me how you can play with 6 characters or just play the following game lost ark without selling bussing instances and in a free to play way if the game forces you to have money \ gold and resources that it doesn't actually give you the game without selling bussing lobbies :

- - So how do you get level 8\9 tier 4 gems for each character,
- So how do you max out your character's gs equip

- how do you
So max out the advanced honing level lvl 20 for each character (Soon lvl 40)

- how do you then max out the 5 different engravings for each class of lvl 4 (so: 20 book relic x 5 = 100 books on average 250k gold per book relic so 25 million relics) and this is for only 1 character and 1 class.

- the main problem with all this is the creation of conservative game instances so guild groups \ streamer groups \ discord groups \ websites \ bussing lobbis \ ect. without a real possibility of instances and game groups through random and independent matchamking

- obviously bad management and game structure, steramer \ people (certainly not all) who instead of protecting their community and people by reporting the facts through informative information in an independent, impartial and transparent manner, have instead chosen to protect themselves and the game.
-with the advent of RNG progression raid systems + game structure and raid having few intuitive game mechanics (and this does not mean that the game would turn into a non-skill game, because learning the sequences by heart, the only part of skill is the person's memory, but not the gameplay itself)

- Obviously the biggest evil are the instances of Bussing \ boosting perpetually active. Without ever having gone to ban them. (but having banned where the control system has managed to reach RTM practices) insufficient and there's no point in doing just this.

- Too much time has passed now and it is no longer possible to deny what is happening and that has already been happening for too long.


And consequently create predatory gaming groups, where in order to play the game in its entirety you are forced into such unfair gaming practices, where the support system, instead of banning them, protects them. (I prefer to stay out of all this and hope that the right changes and countermeasures are adopted) if this does not happen, I no longer consider it manageable and admissible to have such a corporation within the world of video games until such these "cancers" of practices such as bussing and boosting are removed and erased forever from history.

- In my opinion, Lost Ark is superior, both by combat system, and as regards raids \ mech with the relative interaction with Heropower + Skills, as a structure itself is the number 1, the problem is how it was managed to have ruined it, the non curance to the rules and not accessibility to be able to learn \ play.

- If you leave people free without the right rules they are like beasts eat you, they devour you, exploit or are exploited, They Find Ways to Excel On Others Through Practices of extremely incorrect game, creating organizations of people, where others go to exploit, find people looking for shortcuts (also their are incorrect people) or simply because ignor, without awareness, where you are obliged to adapt to this system, or you are out of the game.

- For this reason, any application and activities of Bussing \ Boosting from day 1 had to be banned (the problem that the only thing that has been done about this, has been done is just a simple "censorship" without going to ban the practice in itself in fact it has not gone to solve anything.

- A huge insult for those who try and still try to play still Lost Ark, for whom does not want to go down and compromise with anyone, Withut Going to Practice Such These Incorrect Practices, because that's are .

- Banning these practices within the game would be really simple, since the gold can be exchanged only by email, trade system within the same server and the sale of objects at auction house (the most used).

- Defending these instances again as they are called "Bussing" without still calling them with their own real name "Boosting" because this happens and this are.

- It is really dishonest intellectually, as can be said that within a sale of this "bussing" inside it is not taking place to enhance the character / roster that why only thanks to the win of this game raid won, objects + excusive titles can they be obtained.

- So to say that a boosting is not taking place, it is intellectually being dishonest, this is a fact obvious that is based purely on facts and data.


- Once this is done and banned this practice, the real problems relating to excessive costs will be evident, and the meaningless mechs, without skills of certain gaming raids as well.

- Going to solve the game economy, being that everyone will be able to obtain limited and not "infinite" gold.

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- There are all the prerequisites and conditions to be able to do and adopt this and the related technology, so why not do it? What pushes this support system not to do this then? and therefore ban any bussing \ boosting activity within the game. tell me what? and why ? please. "I kneel before you"

If before (in the past) people were able to play some instances of the game BUT :

- So I would like to point out that RNG progression raid mechanics did NOT exist before, you won the game content and then after a TON of acquired objects after a TON of game raid wins, AFTER you acquired a 100% sure boost (enhancement progression char ) , why did this happen before (after many years of playing and raiding ) and now it doesn't? and in any case I always remember that the problems were always persistent with the inability to play the game and play (always thanks to the fact of the wts lobbies, character builds, set engravings, gems, raid titles, lack of players, new players, raid structure and the lack of SoloMode + new passive ark system for builds, provided that removing the excessive cost + cost for the activation of jewels and randomness for of jewel bonuses effect + all relic engraving system.) but the game remains MUCH more playable BEFORE than now, this is an inalienable fact.

(I played on the EUW Stonehearth server, and the game instances were really difficult also to find and exhausting to play the game and SoloMode didn't exist (few people + bussing WTS instances) and then the servers were merged (a ""practice impossible to implement"", it was said on the official forum at the time, currently closed and replaced with Discord)

- now it is no longer possible (and not because of the presence of the normal soloraid mode "as already said and explained" ) because the HM mode is not present and no one accepts anyone except those who know, or who are much taller and bigger than that game raid.

- the normal costs have all increased enormously, so it is no longer possible to hide this in the current state of the game.
- Another very practical example, since what I say is simply based on facts and numbers:
In fact it Went to Worsen the Costs of the Gems Going to Let Their Price Rise With A Lot High Price With Prohibitive Costs, in fact the cost of a LVL 10 DPS gem first was of 450k \ and for CDR of 250k, (now lv 8 gems tier 4 dps 400k \ Cdr gems lvl 8 CDR 390k so people who ""claim that there has been no increase in costs"", because "now they are stronger and cost the same" are constantly lying, and a tier 4 lvl 8 gem is not always stronger than a lvl 10 tier 3 gem. just read the numbers.) now lvl 10 dps gem tier the cost is 4 MILION \ CDR gems 2.2 Milion ( I would like to remeber this point regarding out before tier4 his relase and the relative cost to the gems lvl 10 tier3 , thanks to disinformation generated through various websites, the tier 3 lvl 10 gems were sold for 300k \ 280k dps gems, the CDR reduction ones for 140\ 150k 180k and it is also thanks to this that the lvl 10 tier 4 gems that we can see inside the game are now present. Once again exploiting a good part and slice of the community. ) yes now level 8 \ 9 \ 10 the bonus that is obtained is less than before, but this fact is not underlined, The damages that are done now is greatly increased, so the bonus that is obtained with small % increase is much more than before. in addition it went to get confused, in fact in many Build up to 2 lvl 10 dps gem tier 3 , They remain stronger than Build having Full Gems Tier 4 LV 8.

So there are 2 options for the game support system who can do:

- or censorship ( and squeeze their community to the bone to keep up with the game )

- Or start banning ANY instance and activity related to bussing \ boosting activity ( as explained it is easy to identify and ban, since there is an exchange of gold )

- Then work WELL and intelligently on the game raid structure, working on the SoloMode, and all the other problems I have already listed for some time. ( and here)
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από MEZZO TOSSICO; 16 Μαρ, 8:42
[Part2] -I repeat, I write all this and over time I turn around and see all the time I have wasted and thrown away, really so much time. Hope? I don't know that term. But I confess that I enjoy being "deluded", otherwise what's the point of living?

I do all this because I believed in this Lost Ark project, I have not denied that I abandoned the game over and over again even deleting the entire my character Roster, to then return to play the game.

It's true that I continued to persevere in the first belief and therefore continuing to resist and play the game alone, because in my opinion only by remaining alone (with its relative difficulties), and this drastically avoids the possibility of being able to compromise with "someone" \ "something", and therefore being able to remain impartial and lucid and manage to see things for what they "Really" are with its relative problems in the clearest and most transparent way possible.
And over time my coherence (for the few people who know me) can confirm that I have always been coherent with my principles. It is true that I have not obtained anything from all this, but they are huge Malus, but I can say and affirm that I am proud of the choices I have made and I could never EVER change what I believe in.

But I have still totaled a total of 11k + hours played on the following title since I play on 2 Steam accounts (mine where I log in and play only me)

And therefore RNG + P2W progression systems and any boosting \ bussing activity within video games.

- the only thing I ask people is to avoid "typical" comments like those made by @LordRobson without going to argue with numbers and practical examples in hand in a purely objective way, where people can in total autonomy verify and note that what is said can be true \ false \ shareable \ disagreement.
So in bringing at least a shred of respect for the people who dedicate and "throw away" their time for a "higher" cause.

Thank you.

My Feedback is generated only for the sole purpose of improving the health, real quality , for a real increase in gaming possibilities and consequently also a creation of real new and long-lasting players and structure of the game, based on purely objective facts and numbers, trying to inform people with the few means i have resources + intellect that I have available in my arsenal.

- And So as my final note is that Lost Ark such a low and unplayable point has never been touched \ reached until now, and with time it can only prosper for the MORE worse.

I am just a stain, a shadow, I'm a dot in the middle of the sea.
im random , I'm nobody . [Arasutoru \ Saireinohebi \ OnlyMasksZeroFaces]

thanks everyone for your attention.
....Do you really think people read your post that are massive rants of word salad of why the game is too hard for you or your opinions of how to improve the game for you rather than others?

People are not going to read it, and a "Dev" is just going to look at it and roll their eyes,

Most of your post are comparing yourself to others, and because you lack the ability or skill to do something it must means others couldnt achieve it as well without spending tons of money on the game....also despite having 11k hours in the game you come off as someone who gets their info from Streamer and Videos, you talk as if you dont really know how the game works at 1660/1690.

Example is this
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από MEZZO TOSSICO:

- Tell me how you can play with 6 characters or just play the following game lost ark without selling bussing instances and in a free to play way if the game forces you to have money \ gold and resources that it doesn't actually give you the game without selling bussing lobbies :

- - So how do you get level 8\9 tier 4 gems for each character,
- So how do you max out your character's gs equip

You think people have all lv 8s and 9s on their 1690? LOL WHAT
Most people are not the few whales you see or the Streamers.
Most people have maybe a full page of lv 8s on their 1 main, then their alts, even at 1690 have all lv 7s, maybe 1 or 2 8s... who has all lv 9s or heck even 1 lv 9?

Even in the KR version theres no content that requires all lv 8 gems, you can do it with all lv 7s...gatekeeping is another topic.

err and 6 1690s would be making 501k raid gold a week, before selling things such as bracelets that can sell for 10k-100k each or relic books. Even if they all did Brel NM thats still 462k a week.
They truth is the game is meant for you to have 6 characters...and even with 6 characters you spend less time doing dailies and raiding than you do in other MMORPGs, which many also require you to have multiple characters.

This wouldnt be an issue if there was no timegated content, and I dont mean the 1600-1620 honing, but the fact that to go from 1415 to 1600 takes like 7 to 9 week from doing raids to get gear.

They should just give you a power pass to 1600 or even 1620 every time you complete something in the game on a character...but they wont because of people already crying over how easy it is to get to 1640... in KR they call them Rice Farmers. They dont want people to be able to easily lv up alts to 1640 to farm gold and mats.

Raid Mechs havnt been a issue for some time now. Theres a reason why 4 1640 can Bus 4 players through Thaemine, Echidna, and even Behe... and 4 1660 can Bus Aegir. In fact people are calling for harder raids, because yeah its boring...maybe its a skill issue on your end, just saying if 4 can do it why cant you in a party of 8...most people dont play MMORPGs to do raids of that of singleplayer game, they want content that requires multiple people to defeat it.


Solo raids killed lower lv raid... yeah well people voted for it. Solo raids were not meant to replace raiding, but hey people wanted it. They were meant to get you the gear from the raids so you could then hon up or find groups but here we are.

Advance honing is fine, you like others seem to not understand what its for. Advance honing is there to provide lvs for when you hit a wall and the cost of honing vs % becomes to large.
In T3 this was honing over 1620, honing from 1620 to 1630 cost millions then honing to 1640 from 1630 cost more millions, it was like 4m-7m or something. Advance honing lower that cost to around 500k and 700k, and this was with buying fusion mats.

30-40 is the same, its there to get you from 1700 to 1720 or 1680/1690 to 1700/1710 which will likely be the level for the next and last raid before theres another reset. NM 1700, HM 1720.

These systems are fine when they release, they are gold sinks, you are meant to spend your gold, the problem is when months later people try doing or thinking they should be able to do them all in 1 day.

Relic books.... you dont need them, and if you factor in the gold we make no compared to the gold we mad in T3 when T3 released Relic books are cheaper.
grudge and adrenaline where like 200k-400k a book back in T3 for a few weeks. They then dropped to 100k-150k, 50k-100k, then held at 20k-30k for months. After a year they were 10k-20k
And you needed them, along with class engravings that were 10k-30k a book

Ability stone, yeah they suck, its something players forgot were even in the game, but you dont need them anymore, you dont need a 7/7 or 7/8, you only need a 6/6 for the 6% dmg. Cut them as you find them, you can trade them among alts for free.

Anyways dogs done doing its business and even after running the post through an Ai to summarize it I couldnt really figure out what you were going on about with most of the other things you mention in your post.

O accept for as always you keep implying Bussing is Boosting, again just comes off as if you havnt played other MMORPGs.
People wanted bussing removed from party finder so there would be more players forced to find real parties to join.....guess what it happened, now theres a massive Sup shortage...well also likely the banning of Chaos Botting resulted in a lot of Sup being banned
Anyways they banned Bussing from party finder like you and others wanted along with banning people from cheating, now you complain about the lack of Sups....yeah what did you think would happen.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Kirinketsu; 16 Μαρ, 11:25
So its not lost in that post

The game has issues, most games have issues, and most MMORPGs have the same issues Lost Ark has.

The issues are not what you keep listing every month or week that applies to you, the main issue is timegated content and lack sup for a new player to make multiple characters.

Lost Ark requires 6 characters, if you dont like that then dont play, many MMORPGs require multiple character now, or if you dont have multiples you miss out on a lot.

Even with 6 characters raid content and dailies are about the same time wise as playing 1 or 2 characters in other MMORPGs.

The issue is a new player cannot make 5 extra characters without spending $55, and even then they will only be set to 1580 and not 1620.

When the game released, you could just play the MSQ for like 12 hours and bam you had a character in T1.
When T3 released you played the MSQ for like 18 hours and after a week had a character in T3.
With T4 you have to play like 32 hours of MSQ, and spend 7 to 9 weeks farming solo content to gear armor to reach 1600, you then need to spend like 5-7 weeks of farming raids and dailies to get gold and mats to hon to 1620, you then need to spend 5 to 7 weeks of farming to hon to 1660, you then need to spend like 5 weeks doing Aegir to get the new armor.

If you really want to improve the game, to get new players, then you should only be pushing for what helps those players.

Lowering the cost of armor so beating Valtan/Vykas once gets you the full set, beating Brel once gets you the full set, and beating Akkan once gets you the full set...and because of how long its been out Aegir armor should also be lowered in cost along with NM giving the same upgrade mats as HM.

Elixirs from IVT should be silver and not gold.
Dark Firs from solo/NM/HM should be the same and increase them or lower the cost of trans along with lower the gold cost.

Add a new Story express or power pass system where players receive up to 5 a roster.
They can make it so bots cannot do it, have quest and goals of doing things such as beating all of the legion commanders, something I dont believe bots could do in solo mode. Valtan to Echidna.
Id take up to 1600 but really they should drop the player off at 1620.

This would allow new players to achieve 6, 1600s or 1640, which will give them the options to farm content to push 1 character to 1660+ along with giving them 6 character to play and they will be able to choice 1 of those 6 as their mains.

...also Event gems, they should each get at lease all T4 lv 6 event gems, maybe even 2 or 4 lv 7s and LOS 24 should just be given out from a quest ingame, not an even, heck just give los 30 or make quest to complete 24 to 30 ingame.


You dont need to nerf raids, you dont need to nerf advance honing or honing, you dont need to nerf gold or add bound gold, you just need to give new players the ability to play.
Right now a new players jumps into the game, does the MSQ, hits a wall at 1415/1490/1580 and quits, or they use a power pass, do 3 raids, hon a few times, and quit.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Kirinketsu; 16 Μαρ, 11:05
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Kirinketsu:
....Do you really think people read your post that are massive rants of word salad of why the game is too hard for you or your opinions of how to improve the game for you rather than others?

People are not going to read it, and a "Dev" is just going to look at it and roll their eyes,

Most of your post are comparing yourself to others, and because you lack the ability or skill to do something it must means others couldnt achieve it as well without spending tons of money on the game....also despite having 11k hours in the game you come off as someone who gets their info from Streamer and Videos, you talk as if you dont really know how the game works at 1660/1690.

Example is this
"- Tell me how you can play with 6 characters or just play the following game lost ark without selling bussing instances and in a free to play way if the game forces you to have money \ gold and resources that it doesn't actually give you the game without selling bussing lobbies :

- - So how do you get level 8\9 tier 4 gems for each character,
- So how do you max out your character's gs equip"

You think people have all lv 8s and 9s on their 1690? LOL WHAT
Most people are not the few whales you see or the Streamers.
Most people have maybe a full page of lv 8s on their 1 main, then their alts, even at 1690 have all lv 7s, maybe 1 or 2 8s... who has all lv 9s or heck even 1 lv 9?

Even in the KR version theres no content that requires all lv 8 gems, you can do it with all lv 7s...gatekeeping is another topic.

err and 6 1690s would be making 501k raid gold a week, before selling things such as bracelets that can sell for 10k-100k each or relic books. Even if they all did Brel NM thats still 462k a week.
They truth is the game is meant for you to have 6 characters...and even with 6 characters you spend less time doing dailies and raiding than you do in other MMORPGs, which many also require you to have multiple characters.

This wouldnt be an issue if there was no timegated content, and I dont mean the 1600-1620 honing, but the fact that to go from 1415 to 1600 takes like 7 to 9 week from doing raids to get gear.

They should just give you a power pass to 1600 or even 1620 every time you complete something in the game on a character...but they wont because of people already crying over how easy it is to get to 1640... in KR they call them Rice Farmers. They dont want people to be able to easily lv up alts to 1640 to farm gold and mats.

Raid Mechs havnt been a issue for some time now. Theres a reason why 4 1640 can Bus 4 players through Thaemine, Echidna, and even Behe... and 4 1660 can Bus Aegir. In fact people are calling for harder raids, because yeah its boring...maybe its a skill issue on your end, just saying if 4 can do it why cant you in a party of 8...most people dont play MMORPGs to do raids of that of singleplayer game, they want content that requires multiple people to defeat it.


Solo raids killed lower lv raid... yeah well people voted for it. Solo raids were not meant to replace raiding, but hey people wanted it. They were meant to get you the gear from the raids so you could then hon up or find groups but here we are.

Advance honing is fine, you like others seem to not understand what its for. Advance honing is there to provide lvs for when you hit a wall and the cost of honing vs % becomes to large.
In T3 this was honing over 1620, honing from 1620 to 1630 cost millions then honing to 1640 from 1630 cost more millions, it was like 4m-7m or something. Advance honing lower that cost to around 500k and 700k, and this was with buying fusion mats.

30-40 is the same, its there to get you from 1700 to 1720 or 1680/1690 to 1700/1710 which will likely be the level for the next and last raid before theres another reset. NM 1700, HM 1720.

These systems are find when they release, they are gold sinks, you are meant to spend your gold, the problem is when months later people try doing or thinking they should be able to do them all in 1 day.

Relic books.... you dont need them, and if you factor in the gold we make no compared to the gold we mad in T3 when T3 released Relic books are cheaper.
grudge and adrenaline where like 200k-400k a book back in T3 for a few weeks. They then dropped to 100k-150k, 50k-100k, then held at 20k-30k for months. After a year they were 10k-20k
And you needed them, along with class engravings that were 10k-30k a book

Ability stone, yeah they suck, its something players forgot were even in the game, but you dont need them anymore, you dont need a 7/7 or 7/8, you only need a 6/6 for the 6% dmg. Cut them as you find them, you can trade them among alts for free.

Anyways dogs done doing its business and even after running the post through an Ai to summarize it I couldnt really figure out what you were going on about with most of the other things you mention in your post.

O accept for as always you keep implying Bussing is Boosting, again just comes off as if you havnt played other MMORPGs.
People wanted bussing removed from party finder so there would be more players forced to find real parties to join.....guess what it happened, now theres a massive Sup shortage...well also likely the banning of Chaos Botting resulted in a lot of Sup being banned
Anyways they banned Bussing from party finder like you and others wanted along with banning people from cheating, now you complain about the lack of Sups....yeah what did you think would happen.
His post has more insight than yours, which you can't find out.
- and which streamers and videos say what I'm saying, when NO ONE tells and says these "uncomfortable" things that I listed and said?

-if what you think is true: then why the existence of bussing instances exist since day 1, they could do them for free "free" simply because they like the game and help the community, instead they make you pay gold (streamers included) this because to be able to go for play "hm" content and missimize your characters + (played diffent char class) and equipment you need additional gold that the game does not give you, if what you say "is not needed" I do thinking that those who sell boosting instances extra gold
\ bussing are stupid up to this point "if as much as you say this is not neded" ... you simply said a huge lie @Kirinketsu.

- I said clearly that if he has 6 characters 1690 and plays without selling bussing instances, he will have characters
"Without going to maximize or set up correctly and as efficiently as possible every single character you play"
in fact you confirmed it too from what you wrote @Kirinketsu

We list the rewards that the hm of the latest 3 game content gives : Echina hm 19500 + aegir 30000 + kazeros brelshaza hm 34400 = 83900 x6 = 503.400

- provided that every week for 6 characters you manage to win all the HARD MODE game modes (without going to buy the raid cheest) which obviously needs to be done

- That's why bussing instances exist, because winning the normal mode is easier + faster + more profitable thanks to the bussing sale.

- Plus, in addition to the gold obtained from the 3 raid gold block per week, they get bonus gold from selling other game content, such as ( Thaemine + behemoth )

- so what is the point of this weekly gold block raid? another joke the game has.

Calculating the 6 main characters i have 4x 1660 +1 1650 + 1 1620 (which I leave at tier 3 until the completion of the AH)
I instead weekly manage to do: 2x echima hm 39,000 + 4 echina SoloMode 51,200 + + 5x Behemoth 57500 + 2 Thaemine SoloMode 17,600 + x4 aegir 62,000 + 1 ivery tower SoloMode 5500 TOT 232.800

- my relic books cost: Grudge 250k x20 5M + MP efficiency 38k x20 760k + hit master 100k x20 2M + Adrenaline 370k 7.4m + kbw 180k x20 3.6m = 18.76M : 232,800 it would take me 80 weeks to complete them. ( without spending money on any upgrades, obviously something not feasible)

calculating instead with the maximums that can be obtained currently without selling bussing instances, and therefore all the raid winnings in hm (without going to buy your own chests and without spending money on any upgrades, obviously something not feasible) it still takes 37 weeks.

+ full lvl 8 tier 4 gem base and there are others: 400x11 = 4.4m x char.

+ karma system AH and others.
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- SoloMode was designed to give a start to new players to be able to play the game and start to be able to start playing the game, THIS IS BECAUSE: since ALL THE OLD CONTENTS ARE DESERTED DUE TO THE LACK OF NEW PLAYERS. . (since such game raids do not give almost ANY gold anymore it is not possible to sell bussing instances anymore)

- SoloMode in Europe has been promoted as an "alternative to the public game mode" huge falsehood. Since it gives less gold, lack of content and HM mode.

- SoloMode today is the only mode that makes people play and learn the game, (even if the mechanics are different) and they must work on this. Don't bet on SoloMode nowadays and in the current state of the game, as I have already listed it is like wanting to shoot a bullet in your own feet.

before talking about the AH I would like to remind you that it is an ESSENTIAL character and game enhancement and not as you have told a huge lie here too. (as if it were a vykas, kakul, valtan, kayangel) indeed more important and fundamental.

it should be remembered that the European Lost Ark (the one distributed by Amazon) is an "accelerated" version of the game compared to the KR version since the game was released by us about 2 years and 4 months later.
- So
advanced honing is a VERY IMPORTANT character enhancement
In fact it was conceived and designed that with the change between tier 3 and tier 4 you would have honor shards of tier 3 and materials to "throw away" all untradable, so thanks to this you could easily upgrade your character up to lvl 20 (in fact if we go to see the ranking in kr on the loawa site all the people who play and win the hm contents of the game, that is the real game of lost ark of the pve mode have maxed equipment or almost)
obviously in doing this it was equally MADNESS and super expensive equally.
The concept in itself is intelligent but obviously WRONG, because they forgot about the people who start the game starting FROM ZERO and therefore without any farm of objects.
- since you thanks to this deny for the umpteenth time the possibility for a new player to be able to play the game get such effects \ powerups and to be able to reach the other players to be able to play the game.

In fact the Aegir raid is designed in such a way that by default you should have full set advance honing at least lvl 10 unlocked.

(Obviously super simple raid) obviously thanks to the fact that now by default you have active passive ark. Even if who played such game content, went to throw away many "luminous gems" to go and activate the Relic set " super wrong to have done this"

I managed to win Aegir because I play MONO class on both accounts where I play: second account steam 5 slayer and on the first account mainre 6 mages (same build, same class) in both accounts I have 6 gems lvl 8 + 5 lvl 7 and
tier 4 and (in the slayer instead of 6 gems lvl 8 I have 5 gems lvl 8 tier 4 and 1 gem tier 3 lvl 10.

on 11 characters I have stone 7\7 of the main bonuses, I went to use approximately 1800\1900 pheon tokens (obtained and kept thanks to previous events) on 1 account I used more because the calculation systems provided on the websites are not reliable, after I found a system thanks to my "hyper intuition" and I managed to use less pheon tokens after.

Obviously the difficulty in finding a group, HUGE. HUGE HUGE. because you are without a game title, + not overgs even if I had EXCELLENT gems regarding the NM game mode. But surely some good soul wanted to help me.

BUT I DID NOT ASK FOR ANYONE'S HELP, AND I WILL NEVER DO IT. I PREFER TO DELETE ALL MY ACCOUNTS NOW AND IMMEDIATELY, JUST TO GO AND ASK FOR HELP TO BE ABLE TO SIMPLY "PLAY A GAME" AND\OR TO BE ABLE TO START A GAME QUEUE.

- It's not like that with books, since it was enough to have your class engraving that was usually "cheap" to have except for the most played classes, in addition the basic game provided MANY more legendary books, (up to today I have only received 3 relic books from the game) and then based on the build \ character you went to draw on only 2 of lvl 12, just to get a set effect 5 + 1, And I who played the reflux sorc the cost prices were even lower. Obviously there was the problem of the pheon tokens. but you were NOT forced to have to draw on 5 like now.

Anyway I have already explained everything and people can judge what I said and what you said in total autonomy, what people who play the game usually do, exiting the soloRaid or pay for bussing \ boosting instances (not banned) or uninstall the game.


- - I have never ONCE ONE SINGLE TIME hoped dear @Kirinketsu that I will be listened to, or that someone competent, will take charge of my Feedback and that they can intervene thanks to my exasperated and exhausting comment regarding the game system that I currently SEE and CONSTANTLY perceive when I play the following game Lost Ark.

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- what you say is useless because the lvl 6\7 event gems are garbage (tier 4 also). the only right thing is about the cards. but ONLY los30 is useless, because soon other elemental cards of lvl 30 will be needed with the progression of the game. and the related raids

The game is saved ONLY if you make people play and let them learn the game without conservative group systems such as, discord groups \ guilds \ streamers \ organizations.

And therefore through the creation of independent groups and with a random game que system. The only real solution to its game system is precisely the SoloMode with the addition of the HM game raids.

So go and create a healthy game system, without chains and real gaming, where ANY person can really play the game and learn.

+ Ban bussing \ boosting without doing this the prices will NEVER drop from the auction and people will continue and be kept out and away from the game .

- I hope that people will wake up, and is not be ignorant like at this point , and if the game support system doesn't understand what I've been saying for years, without going to ban bussing (boosting) + fix the tragic problems that are within the game, the fan base that doesn't sell bussing of the game will realize that what I'm saying is the truth (even if they play together with their own group team ) and that it will happen one day. 'Cause it's inevitable. And the facts and numbers prove it.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από MEZZO TOSSICO; 16 Μαρ, 16:46
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Shun Pinocchio Syndrom&Hypocrite:
not sure if anyone reading long post in this thread. Keep it Simple and Short. KISS.

I tried. I know i write long posts. I realize why i shouldn't now.

-People bussing don't make it harder or easier for me to progress. So i can't relate to any of it.

-Timegating is bad and not fun and makes it so u need stupid events for people to "catch up"
-Raid wipes without the option to use plumes to revive causes gatekeeping.

Those 2 thing in combination make a community smaller and unfriendly.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από MEZZO TOSSICO:
- and which streamers and videos say what I'm saying, when NO ONE tells and says these "uncomfortable" things that I listed and said?

-if what you think is true: then why the existence of bussing instances exist since day 1, they could do them for free "free" simply because they like the game and help the community, instead they make you pay gold (streamers included) this because to be able to go for play "hm" content and missimize your characters + (played diffent char class) and equipment you need additional gold that the game does not give you, if what you say "is not needed" I do thinking that those who sell boosting instances extra gold
\ bussing are stupid up to this point "if as much as you say this is not neded" ... you simply said a huge lie @Kirinketsu.

- I said clearly that if he has 6 characters 1690 and plays without selling bussing instances, he will have characters
"Without going to maximize or set up correctly and as efficiently as possible every single character you play"
in fact you confirmed it too from what you wrote @Kirinketsu

We list the rewards that the hm of the latest 3 game content gives : Echina hm 13500 + aegir 30000 + kazeros brelshaza hm 34400 x6 = 249.900

- provided that every week for 6 characters you manage to win all the HARD MODE game modes (without going to buy the raid cheest) which obviously needs to be done

- That's why bussing instances exist, because winning the normal mode is easier + faster + more profitable thanks to the bussing sale.

- Plus, in addition to the gold obtained from the 3 raid gold block per week, they get bonus gold from selling other game content, such as ( Thaemine + behemoth )

- so what is the point of this weekly gold block raid? another joke the game has.

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- SoloMode was designed to give a start to new players to be able to play the game and start to be able to start playing the game, THIS IS BECAUSE: since ALL THE OLD CONTENTS ARE DESERTED DUE TO THE LACK OF NEW PLAYERS. . (since such game raids do not give almost ANY gold anymore it is not possible to sell bussing instances anymore)

- SoloMode in Europe has been promoted as an "alternative to the public game mode" huge falsehood. Since it gives less gold, lack of content and HM mode.

- SoloMode today is the only mode that makes people play and learn the game, (even if the mechanics are different) and they must work on this. Don't bet on SoloMode nowadays and in the current state of the game, as I have already listed it is like wanting to shoot a bullet in your own feet.

before talking about the AH I would like to remind you that it is an ESSENTIAL character and game enhancement and not as you have told a huge lie here too. (as if it were a vykas, kakul, valtan, kayangel) indeed more important and fundamental.

it should be remembered that the European Lost Ark (the one distributed by Amazon) is an "accelerated" version of the game compared to the KR version since the game was released by us about 2 years and 4 months later.
- So
advanced honing is a VERY IMPORTANT character enhancement
In fact it was conceived and designed that with the change between tier 3 and tier 4 you would have honor shards of tier 3 and materials to "throw away" all untradable, so thanks to this you could easily upgrade your character up to lvl 20 (in fact if we go to see the ranking in kr on the loawa site all the people who play and win the hm contents of the game, that is the real game of lost ark of the pve mode have maxed equipment or almost)
obviously in doing this it was equally MADNESS and super expensive equally.
The concept in itself is intelligent but obviously WRONG, because they forgot about the people who start the game starting FROM ZERO and therefore without any farm of objects.
- since you thanks to this deny for the umpteenth time the possibility for a new player to be able to play the game get such effects \ powerups and to be able to reach the other players to be able to play the game.

In fact the Aegir raid is designed in such a way that by default you should have full set advance honing at least lvl 10 unlocked.

(Obviously super simple raid) obviously thanks to the fact that now by default you have active passive ark. Even if who played such game content, went to throw away many "luminous gems" to go and activate the Relic set " super wrong to have done this"

I managed to win Aegir because I play MONO class on both accounts where I play: second account steam 5 slayer and on the first account mainre 6 mages (same build, same class) in both accounts I have 6 gems lvl 8 + 5 lvl 7 and
tier 4 and (in the slayer instead of 6 gems lvl 8 I have 5 gems lvl 8 tier 4 and 1 gem tier 3 lvl 10.

on 11 characters I have stone 7\7 of the main bonuses, I went to use approximately 1800\1900 pheon tokens (obtained and kept thanks to previous events) on 1 account I used more because the calculation systems provided on the websites are not reliable, after I found a system thanks to my "hyper intuition" and I managed to use less pheon tokens after.

Obviously the difficulty in finding a group, HUGE. HUGE HUGE. because you are without a game title, + not overgs even if I had EXCELLENT gems regarding the NM game mode. But surely some good soul wanted to help me.

BUT I DID NOT ASK FOR ANYONE'S HELP, AND I WILL NEVER DO IT. I PREFER TO DELETE ALL MY ACCOUNTS NOW AND IMMEDIATELY, JUST TO GO AND ASK FOR HELP TO BE ABLE TO SIMPLY "PLAY A GAME" AND\OR TO BE ABLE TO START A GAME QUEUE.

- It's not like that with books, since it was enough to have your class engraving that was usually "cheap" to have except for the most played classes, in addition the basic game provided MANY more legendary books, (up to today I have only received 3 relic books from the game) and then based on the build \ character you went to draw on only 2 of lvl 12, just to get a set effect 5 + 1, And I who played the reflux sorc the cost prices were even lower. Obviously there was the problem of the pheon tokens. but you were NOT forced to have to draw on 5 like now.

Anyway I have already explained everything and people can judge what I said and what you said in total autonomy, what people who play the game usually do, exiting the soloRaid or pay for bussing \ boosting instances (not banned) or uninstall the game.


- - I have never ONCE ONE SINGLE TIME hoped dear @Kirinketsu that I will be listened to, or that someone competent, will take charge of my Feedback and that they can intervene thanks to my exasperated and exhausting comment regarding the game system that I currently SEE and CONSTANTLY perceive when I play the following game Lost Ark.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

- what you say is useless because the lvl 6\7 event gems are garbage (tier 4 also). the only right thing is about the cards. but ONLY los30 is useless, because soon other elemental cards of lvl 30 will be needed with the progression of the game. and the related raids

The game is saved ONLY if you make people play and let them learn the game without conservative group systems such as, discord groups \ guilds \ streamers \ organizations.

And therefore through the creation of independent groups and with a random game que system. The only real solution to its game system is precisely the SoloMode with the addition of the HM game raids.

So go and create a healthy game system, without chains and real gaming, where ANY person can really play the game and learn.

+ Ban bussing \ boosting without doing this the prices will NEVER drop from the auction and people will continue and be kept out and away from the game .

- I hope that people will wake up, and is not be ignorant like at this point , and if the game support system doesn't understand what I've been saying for years, without going to ban bussing (boosting) + fix the tragic problems that are within the game, the fan base that doesn't sell bussing of the game will realize that what I'm saying is the truth (even if they play together with their own group team ) and that it will happen one day. 'Cause it's inevitable. And the facts and numbers prove it.


I mean. I don't think his comment is worth thinking about dude.

Also, If u think about how the people running this game are some dudes in suits in an office... And they're like.. "if we ban people. Some of those people we ban were swiping and it'll be alot of work for us to do that properly. How bout we just release statements every few months to fool people while we actually do noting and get money for it."

The people in charge of this game, have no personal investment in it. It's not like they actually made the game and care about it. It's just business. They took someone elses product, and they're seeing how much money they can make from it without investing anything, and since they probably don't even play games. There is no reason for them to care.

The sad fact is, as much potential this game had. It'll never happen cause this is the model. It's in the hands of businessmen, and they have 1 goal, to make as much money from this product they are working with and zero interest in anything else.
thanks @Nipples I really appreciate it.

But I believe that it is important to take into consideration every comment, (only thanks to a real and fair comparison can the right solutions arise as long as one is honest) and then adopt the right changes, but not based on one's own convenience (interests) but based on a sense of justice by pursuing the right values ​​(now almost completely lost especially in the online video game world) and try to go and protect first and foremost those people who are weaker and more fragile (therefore new players and those who have less power within the game) obviously all without going to modify the real skill and atmosphere of the game.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από MEZZO TOSSICO:
thanks @Nipples I really appreciate it.

But I believe that it is important to take into consideration every comment, (only thanks to a real and fair comparison can the right solutions arise as long as one is honest) and then adopt the right changes, but not based on one's own convenience (interests) but based on a sense of justice by pursuing the right values ​​(now almost completely lost especially in the online video game world) and try to go and protect first and foremost those people who are weaker and more fragile (therefore new players and those who have less power within the game) obviously all without going to modify the real skill and atmosphere of the game.

All good man! i love how enthusiastic/passionate you are about voicing against corruption and advocating for change. But one thing to consider, many people don't really think outside of their box or about others much it seems. So when they say things. They are hyper focused on how they are conditioned and their goal is to pat themselves on the back, often times by belittling others to boost their own ego's or something.

I dunno, It's gonna be hard to find change in a game where the devoted player base doesn't care about people having fun and enjoying the game if it doesn't fit into their bubble. I honestly don't believe these tryhard elitist that mindlessly defend the game even truly enjoy it, but more so they enjoy the idea that they are the 1% and get off on that to look down on others sometimes.

Like the whole... everything is just super weird. It's a pve game, yet people try to make it competitive. They hate on each other when one has good honing luck and wise bad things on them. They insult people spending money on the game as if others being stronger somehow ruins ur raid/run. And then smile as if they did something cool by insulting someone. I mean.. If u truly loved the game, shouldn't u support the idea of people spending money on the game so that it doesn't shut down?

But it's clearly about finding a way to feel superior over others over actually liking and supporting the game and wanting more people to enjoy it. The games not about being a good game that's fun for people. It's like it's become a symbol for a select amount of people who are willing to slave and puppet to follow a tight regiment with obnoxious math to try and make small things mean more cause they are so deep in with their heads so far up their own butts.... and all for what? Why would any decent human being wanna get sucked into this terrible nonsense.

Sadly, the game can be so much more than what the puppets try to force it to be. But it fits their prerogative and they'd rather support and adapt to this disgusting nonsense while being mean to others and feeling good about it, over relating to others and wanting more people to have a good time. Also again, the people running the game are clearly just business men and not gamers. So that throws out any real chances of this becoming a better game for more people and the only direction you can expect is what will makes them more money easily and too little, too late, lazy updates to fool people into swiping.
just switch to Throne and Liberty man. I dont why anyone wasting time on such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ p2w game thats dead when you have the newer p2w version called T&LL.
Its LA 2.5.
Oh man this thread is wild.

Addicts writing essays like it'll change things KEKW.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από FOOD:
Oh man this thread is wild.

Addicts writing essays like it'll change things KEKW.

You didn't read anything in the thread obviously. The fact that it won't change anything was stated many times over in not only my replies but others also. I wouldn't call it essays, rather a sharing of ideas, and general frustration between other players. You know that's why it's called a "discussion forum."
thanks for the information, not really interested in toxic dead games either.
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