Lost Ark

Lost Ark

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Wyze 20.12.2024 klo 13.14
Question about game
I usually tend to be very careful around F2P games like this. It is heavy P2W as in a sense that if you don't pay $ you will get nowhere here? I don't mind grinding but don't want to be locked out because they decided to put everything behind paywalls to get geared up.
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Wyze 20.12.2024 klo 13.38 
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Not really an answer but I'll take it as if I don't want to toss 100s at the game just avoid it.
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Not really an answer but I'll take it as if I don't want to toss 100s at the game just avoid it.
Game has hella gatekeeping in it, or you can join a discord for help with learning.. but honestly it's not worth it. Unless you wanna no life and make 20 alts go for it
Nilin 20.12.2024 klo 13.41 
Nah you can still play without paying, they added two more raids to solo as well so you don't have to group up with anyone if you don't want to.
yeah they added solo raids but i dont know how far you can go trough..for example thaemine its hard asf
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yeah they added solo raids but i dont know how far you can go trough..for example thaemine its hard asf
nah solo raids are free, unless your a support. i refuse to do solo on any of my supports.. less time on the game the better
Nipples 20.12.2024 klo 17.56 
No need to spend anything cause not playing and waiting for free stuff and free boosts/passes will get u more. I'm not against spending money on games. In fact i'm all about suporting games i respect and enjoy. This game will give u practically nothing for anything u spend, screw u every chance they get with negative support. And the community will insult you for it so it's a weird uh... i dunno the word. maybe dichotomy?

As far as gains, everything is timegated so the idea of grinding and getting ahead is a facade. You can if u go all out and find work around by bussing and making cheap alts. But it turns into a weird vicious cycle for minimal rng gains. The game is extremely predatory and creates a 3 way divide of whales that get insulted, f2p players who brag about getting ahead while beating the predatory system and insulting others who didn't, and the people who had a bad time and quit.

The paywall i would say is based on your rng luck. Cause since progress is timegated, no matter how well you do, you have to do the same boss once a week for months to get the full gearset you need to level up and progress. Now if you have bad luck leveling up the gearset with the limited gold earnings you can make before your gold earnings are locked out for the week. Then people feel the need to either swipe, or grind excessively through work around means that have minimal gains compared to just waiting til next week in hopes of having better rng for lvling your items up. But the amount of bad luck could be so extreme where someone could get lucky and 1 tap lets say their weapon quality to 95% while another could spend a thousand dollars and still be stuck under 85% quality.

There's a pity system for leveling items that gets pretty rough closer to end game, but the cost and chances keep changing based on how old the content is so anything u do has very little meaning as it becomes worth less over time. The difference in someone getting a lucky 1 tap ot hitting a full pity, can be from as low as 1600 gold for that 1 item level, or weeks worth of grind depending on if it's your weapon, and what item level you are going for on it. Which is why people spend more time doing math on "what's worth doing" instead of having fun playing the game. Cause the game encourages you to get mentally locked into a state of constantly thinking about gains instead of just playing the game for fun due to the uh... wide range of disparity?

I was addicted to the game and even though i quit months ago to finally taste freedom and get outside of the mental gymnastics box and the vicious cycle... I still wanna play due to that lingering addiction and at it's core the gameplay and character control is way more fun that any other top down game i've tried. What actually keeps me from reinstalling is how mean and toxic the community has been to me. constantly turning anything i say and any original thought into a way to insult or attack me. I did fine while i was playing, but anything i did to try and encourage positive change in the game or attempts to be understanding towards new players were met with hostility from the current player base and elitist tryhards. Which is primarily all that's left playing due to the nature of the game and everyone else who isn't brainwashed quit.

In short, everythings worth buying if money is not an issue for u in real life and you have zero self respect while not minding supporting a game ran by extremely predatory people.
But also no, nothing is worth it no matter how much you spend. You won't get much and it won't actually help u progress. Cause you still need to clear the raid to get the items to craft the newest gearsets to level.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Nipples; 20.12.2024 klo 18.03
More than p2w + casino simulator, this game is a toxic cesspool. If you want that, then get right in!
Leanna 21.12.2024 klo 12.08 
You don't pay for power, you pay for a CHANCE to get power, everything you do is tied to RNG so you can either spend 1.000€$ or 100.000€$ to level up one piece.

The game is run by whales so forget about playing end-game content, you can still enjoy the open world content but you are basically limiting yourself to only playing 20% of the game.

I would say if Lost Ark appeals to you, the leveling experience is okay, the combat is good but you can forget about doing any kind of end-game content, the community doesn't accept normal people.
you can experience raids on solo mode but that gold is bound,cannot be used to buy stuff on the market
to obtain usable gold you gotta be involved in lobby simulator+toxic community+no1 willing to take newbies+gatekeeping+jail+what not :)
most p2w game on steam, good luck.
The progression and money currency system is honest, it is not pay to win on this aspect. But the game is really very difficult to play this because of poor management of the game and resources and how it is structured. A very practical example exists within the game public instances created by veteran players of the game called "wts lobbies" where the community calls them "carry lobbies" but in my opinion it would be more correct to call them "boosting lobbies" since within them an exchange of gold and an automatic winning of content takes place where players who pay do not even do 1% damage to the boss and all this is accepted, tolerated and not banned going to create enormous problems within the game and stability. Then there are many other problems that I avoid listing because I want to stick to your question and therefore the only real "pay to win" aspect of the game is precisely this sale of wts lobbies. I cannot advise you to play the game at the moment. But I can also tell you that if the right changes and improvements were made and implemented, I think it would be one of the best games ever.
MAP 21.12.2024 klo 19.14 
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yeah they added solo raids but i dont know how far you can go trough..for example thaemine its hard asf
I've cleared Echidna solo raid today and I'm not the brightest or the best geared player ever. Didn't try Thaemine yet though.
Novuhz 21.12.2024 klo 22.56 
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I usually tend to be very careful around F2P games like this. It is heavy P2W as in a sense that if you don't pay $ you will get nowhere here? I don't mind grinding but don't want to be locked out because they decided to put everything behind paywalls to get geared up.
You can get to end game without paying a single cent. There is nothing locked behind real money in this game if that's what you are afraid of. So no there's no paywalls for any content in this game. It all just takes time.

I could make a new account and be doing almost all end game content in just a few weeks except the latest end game raid that just came out 'Aegir' that one will take a bit longer to get there but with current mokoko event you don't wanna get to Aegir because you want to make use of the mokoko event leaf that any new player gets, when you get to 1660 ilvl aka Aegir ilvl then you lose the mokoko leaf which is why you want to avoid hitting 1660 ilvl to make best use of mokoko leaf to get your account ready for later on. Mokoko leaf basically gets you accepted into any group looking for a mokoko to join their party.

Plus you now have solo raids to learn a lot of the boss fights in the game.

This game feels more like a souls like game in terms of raids/bossing. gl hf
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Novuhz; 21.12.2024 klo 22.58
You can bribe with 25k dollars and exploit/cheat and rmt with bots and never get perma banned. You will be compesated with extra free 700k gold too. Wild casino, Lost ark!

Comparing this to elden ring or poe 2 LMFAO!
Just Butt-hole-hair sniff(just like the majority in Reddit and Discord Lost ark) the boss in lost ark and win! Easy! Long as you're not the Gacha aggroed or stack pooped player!
Viimeisin muokkaaja on PandaSav; 22.12.2024 klo 3.12
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