Don't play Soulfist

[KM]

If I could get my powerpass back I would, avoid this class at all cost you'll have more fun playing tetris. A single skill from my gunslinger does more damage than the entire Soulfist kit combined and they're both in t2.

I've been reading some opinions about it it seems that by the endgame you start to ""catch up"" , so what a joke of class you only start to become decent once everyone is at its peak.

[Evo96]

the flat 30% dmg buff from skill is basically your flashstep max 3 stacks which give u 30% at level 1 victory shout. That is the dmg u will be dealing. I am giving you facts on how the class work. You just being ignorant and dont read. That 30% flat dmg buff is basically flashstep x3 stacks or pulverizing palm ready atk level 1. you still lose the dmg extra dmg buff which is still a lot of dmg. 10-25% extra dmg buff is not a small number. when you factoring in over the duration of the fight. You deal way way way more than what that flat 30% can cover. that math for the dmg buff from soulfist and what they increase are not complicated math. it is simple.

I am done, take it or dont take it, up to you. But just dont go around and act like you know. If I am act like elitism then I am sorry. But it is better I give people the correct info than people like you spreading misinformation.

It is a buff at low level, nerf at high level, overall still a nerf once people reach end game.

[Witski]

Publicado originalmente por Evo96:

the flat 30% dmg buff from skill is basically your flashstep max 3 stacks which give u 30% at level 1 victory shout. That is the dmg u will be dealing. I am giving you facts on how the class work. You just being ignorant and dont read. That 30% flat dmg buff is basically flashstep x3 stacks or pulverizing palm ready atk level 1. you still lose the dmg extra dmg buff which is still a lot of dmg. 10-25% extra dmg buff is not a small number. when you factoring in over the duration of the fight. You deal way way way more than what that flat 30% can cover. that math for the dmg buff from soulfist and what they increase are not complicated math. it is simple.

I am done, take it or dont take it, up to you. But just dont go around and act like you know. If I am act like elitism then I am sorry. But it is better I give people the correct info than people like you spreading misinformation.

It is a buff at low level, nerf at high level, overall still a nerf once people reach end game.

Again,without [Flat Skill Damage] + [Attack Power] * [Skill Coefficient] you don't know how the 30% increase will work ,and there you should stop before acting you are talking facts,basic maths ,beside constant dps is better than burst damage windows where you can screw any time and dealing no damage.
What you say are just theories .

[Wehzy]

Publicado originalmente por KaMi:

looks like someone doesn't know how to play soulfist lmfao.

This, Soulfist is broken af in PvP and lategame PvE.

[Fredericks of Cursewood]

After playing one of those other Korean MMOs BDO, it is really play what you like. People that follow the META are the ones that get burned the worst. They periodically rebalance or do reworks of classes. The META always shifts and if you invest all of your effort into a class that is on top now, prepare for the inevitable nerf and either have to switch classes or just get used to playing an average or below average class again.

I main scrapper and my #1 alt now is Soulfist. Do they feel underwhelming? They do to a certain extent, but I am ok with that since they are a couple of the most underplayed classes. Playing an underplayed class gives you certain advantages too as they are often more cost effective to gear up. Being able to debuff, stagger, and counter enemies is as important or maybe more important than raw dps. Being able to buff party members so that they can maximize the party dps is more important than maximizing your own dps.

If the changes that are in the PTR are implemented soulfist and scrapper are going to be amazing and nobody is playing them. On the other hand, zerkers and sorcs are going to feel like sh!t and everybody and their dog is playing them.

[Evo96]

Soulfist on the ptr is nerfed n not buffed. People already did the math/research on inven aka Korean reddit, you have to work way harder to get somewhat close to the current dps. Atm, Soulfist deal an avg of 20-25m dps, with the changes it drops to 16-18m dps. It is a 20s to 2m dps test. The avg ilvl is 1500 to 1560. In pvp, Soulfist straight up got nerfed to the ground.

To deal the same dps currently on test server, you have to work way harder n give up movement skill aka flash step. Also change energy release to another dps skill. It seems sg forcing Soulfist to use Kamehameha but that move animation is too long, the recent changed is nice but the class losing it identity when energy release got nerf.

The meme with Soulfist atm is support fist. There is no new build as u still rock same gear with the possibility of rerolling gems to make up for dps loss.

For now, wait til next week to see any changes. NA/EU doesn't need to worry or care atm.

[lucasesbrito]

Publicado originalmente por ✠SwamplandGeneral✠:

they will increase soulfists damage by 40% maybe you should google the balance patch instead of crying about one of the best classes

it wasnt a buff

[KM]

Publicado originalmente por Fredericks of Cursewood:

After playing one of those other Korean MMOs BDO, it is really play what you like. People that follow the META are the ones that get burned the worst. They periodically rebalance or do reworks of classes. The META always shifts and if you invest all of your effort into a class that is on top now, prepare for the inevitable nerf and either have to switch classes or just get used to playing an average or below average class again.

I main scrapper and my #1 alt now is Soulfist. Do they feel underwhelming? They do to a certain extent, but I am ok with that since they are a couple of the most underplayed classes. Playing an underplayed class gives you certain advantages too as they are often more cost effective to gear up. Being able to debuff, stagger, and counter enemies is as important or maybe more important than raw dps. Being able to buff party members so that they can maximize the party dps is more important than maximizing your own dps.

If the changes that are in the PTR are implemented soulfist and scrapper are going to be amazing and nobody is playing them. On the other hand, zerkers and sorcs are going to feel like sh!t and everybody and their dog is playing them.

There is not a "Buff Contributor"" in the MVP screen , so there is no incentive for people to play classes that buff others if no one can see your effort they'll probably think you're being carried, only party recovery matters in that regard. Same goes for Counter attacks sometimes you'll see a gunlancer stunlocking a boss but the MVP will go for the Sorc player anyway.....People play Zerk and Sorc for a reason

[The Vengeful Sins]

most martial artists are subpar T1 T2 compared to other classes, the need the heavy stat investments u get from higher Tier gear, IE Striker Deathblow goes from meh to one of the highest if not highest damage dealer with his skills hitting harder than most classes awakenings, from what i see buffs coming out are tilted toward the early game while still upping their late game damage a bit

[Chiryuu]

Publicado originalmente por The Vengeful Sins:

most martial artists are subpar T1 T2 compared to other classes, the need the heavy stat investments u get from higher Tier gear, IE Striker Deathblow goes from meh to one of the highest if not highest damage dealer with his skills hitting harder than most classes awakenings, from what i see buffs coming out are tilted toward the early game while still upping their late game damage a bit

Some people say that Glaivier is strong.

[The Vengeful Sins]

Publicado originalmente por Chiryuu:

Publicado originalmente por The Vengeful Sins:

most martial artists are subpar T1 T2 compared to other classes, the need the heavy stat investments u get from higher Tier gear, IE Striker Deathblow goes from meh to one of the highest if not highest damage dealer with his skills hitting harder than most classes awakenings, from what i see buffs coming out are tilted toward the early game while still upping their late game damage a bit

Some people say that Glaivier is strong.

''most'' :P but yeah im looking forward to Glavier :D...and newly buffed destroyer <3

[Chiryuu]

Publicado originalmente por The Vengeful Sins:

Publicado originalmente por Chiryuu:

Some people say that Glaivier is strong.

''most'' :P but yeah im looking forward to Glavier :D...and newly buffed destroyer <3

Yup I also can't wait for the Glaivier, gonna be my 2nd main probably :D... I'm really happy they are giving the power pass, though I won't lie, would be happy to get boost straight to the t3 :D.

[Witski]

Publicado originalmente por Chiryuu:

Publicado originalmente por The Vengeful Sins:

''most'' :P but yeah im looking forward to Glavier :D...and newly buffed destroyer <3

Yup I also can't wait for the Glaivier, gonna be my 2nd main probably :D... I'm really happy they are giving the power pass, though I won't lie, would be happy to get boost straight to the t3 :D.

Instant powerpass or the 600 gold one for free?

[Chiryuu]

Publicado originalmente por Witski:

Publicado originalmente por Chiryuu:

Yup I also can't wait for the Glaivier, gonna be my 2nd main probably :D... I'm really happy they are giving the power pass, though I won't lie, would be happy to get boost straight to the t3 :D.

Instant powerpass or the 600 gold one for free?

Instant completely free (to 960 ilvl).

[MASTERNIKOFTW]

doood nooo! dont say this!

soulfist is good! my t3 soulfist nice and strong and get 2nd place sometime!

energy overflow soulfist is best soulfist! you just gotta feel the energy

[Witski]

Publicado originalmente por Chiryuu:

Publicado originalmente por Witski:

Instant powerpass or the 600 gold one for free?

Instant completely free (to 960 ilvl).

seems too good to be true imo,where do you read that?
If its that way,we get t2 960 gear or we start at t1?