Lost Ark and Gender lock

[UnaiN7]

I cant understand that stupid fashion of some mmorpg that think a females cant be a warriors or males can be a mages. Seriously in my opinion if you sell freedom in a game like all mmorpg does at least let me choose my way. The rest of the game looks great but meh warriors can be male, artillery can be male all the rest female.

[´EE`∞EternaL]

Axtor eredeti hozzászólása:

Sure, there is no reason to wanting both but people should stop making this into a big issue as surely it is not. If Smilegate has the development time to allocate to such a game "changing" thing im sure they will allocate their time and resources accordingly.

Well the big issue is a big issue if the issue is big. What decides if that issue is big? Obviously us players who think it is a big issue and would rather move on to an other game than starting the game or leveling a genderlocked alt.

We have to make our demands clear to the market. The market has to be aware of the demand. And then try to meet the demands by changing the requested parts of the product.
In my experience Genderlocks dont have much of a market in the west because nearly every western MMO features a character creation without genderlocks.
Now is the question if Amazon Games has the power to meet our western demands or not.

Cheers, mate.

[Axtor]

´EE`∞Eternal Father eredeti hozzászólása:

Axtor eredeti hozzászólása:

Sure, there is no reason to wanting both but people should stop making this into a big issue as surely it is not. If Smilegate has the development time to allocate to such a game "changing" thing im sure they will allocate their time and resources accordingly.

Well the big issue is a big issue if the issue is big. What decides if that issue is big? Obviously us players who think it is a big issue and would rather move on to an other game than starting the game or leveling a genderlocked alt.

We have to make our demands clear to the market. The market has to be aware of the demand. And then try to meet the demands by changing the requested parts of the product.
In my experience Genderlocks dont have much of a market in the west because nearly every western MMO features a character creation without genderlocks.
Now is the question if Amazon Games has the power to meet our western demands or not.

Cheers, mate.

Amazon only publishes, Smilegate develops. Sure there is communication but still... im sure gender locks do not influence player counts by a huge margin. What i am also sure about is that there are more people crying in Asia about gender locks than in the west, so that part is covered.

What i am also sure about is that almost all players here want the game to launch so we can start playing, and rather wait months or a few years to get to salivate on the silky smooth skin of our female avatars.

[´EE`∞EternaL]

Axtor eredeti hozzászólása:

´EE`∞Eternal Father eredeti hozzászólása:

Well the big issue is a big issue if the issue is big. What decides if that issue is big? Obviously us players who think it is a big issue and would rather move on to an other game than starting the game or leveling a genderlocked alt.

We have to make our demands clear to the market. The market has to be aware of the demand. And then try to meet the demands by changing the requested parts of the product.
In my experience Genderlocks dont have much of a market in the west because nearly every western MMO features a character creation without genderlocks.
Now is the question if Amazon Games has the power to meet our western demands or not.

Cheers, mate.

Amazon only publishes, Smilegate develops. Sure there is communication but still... im sure gender locks do not influence player counts by a huge margin. What i am also sure about is that there are more people crying in Asia about gender locks than in the west, so that part is covered.

What i am also sure about is that almost all players here want the game to launch so we can start playing, and rather wait months or a few years to get to salivate on the silky smooth skin of our female avatars.

Exactly, thats why I doubted if Amazon games has the influence to meet our demands.
I know Asian MMOs that get published by western publishers.

It is impossible to reach out to the developers and our only chance is that Amazon Games recognizes us. They absolutely do that.

But even then it is not clear if the information will be given to the developers and if they are given, the developers have to actually care about these western informations.

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Prince Vegeta eredeti hozzászólása:

Keep having to mention this in game but the gender lock is a work in progress in KR.
They released gunslinger which is the deadeye alternative.
And they just released striker which is the male version of the battle master (wardancer here)

In asia its not considered good if the classes are simple copy pasted over a skinned skeleton so they have been making "gender locked" games with the plan of making an alternate that isn't the exact same as the opposite.

[Ginjii Raishin]

I almost refunded my Plat Pack when I found out Wom*n are in this game. It's disgusting but I guess I'll just deal with them being on screen. Maybe we'll get mod support and we just have male based servers.

[Nero Rizfiz]

Yes it does say Role-playing game. Never in my mind that I am that character or I would actually "role-play" in the game or self-insert myself in a game. That is messed up imo.

[divynedemon]

i mean, theyre not gender locked... they are gender neutral. You shouldnt assume their gender cause of what they look like. #woke #loltheworldweliveinisGG

[Roxx]

While the gender-locked classes isn't something we can just switch on or off, we actually have collected feedback about this and passed it along to Smilegate. As others have mentioned, Smilegate is starting to make class counterparts for opposite-gendered characters, although I have no timeline or additional to share about their development plans for that.

Different players have different preferences on this topic, and that is completely okay. When it comes to MMORPGs I personally prefer to play characters that are my same gender, so I understand that perspective well. Something I found interesting was that one of my colleagues mentioned when they roll a new character in Lost Ark, they see it as playing a preset character instead of creating their own avatar -- like in story-driven RPGs where you play a predefined character. I know it isn't necessarily a solution for people who feel strongly about this, but it's just a bit of food for thought I wanted to share. :)

[´EE`∞EternaL]

It is good that you collect the feedback and communicate with the devs and thank you for doing that. It is not clear though for me if you decide the timeline for the patches on the western version or Smilegate. If you have any power for design decisions to free player choice, then please take responsibility.

By the way story-driven RPGs (or real RPGs) mostly feature a character creation without gender-lock.
Fallout, The Elder Scrolls, Divinity, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Greedfall, Cyberpunk 2077, SWTOR, Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Baldur's Gate 3, The Outer Worlds, Pillars Of Eternity, Pathfinder

[Pijus]

Cp-3380 eredeti hozzászólása:

I cant understand that stupid fashion of some mmorpg that think a females cant be a warriors or males can be a mages. Seriously in my opinion if you sell freedom in a game like all mmorpg does at least let me choose my way. The rest of the game looks great but meh warriors can be male, artillery can be male all the rest female.

I didn't know that people would play Lost Ark as if it were The Sims 4. Here you choose your favorite class based on its abilities and gameplay, not on whether it has boobs or not. Every day you guys surprise me more.

[´EE`∞EternaL]

Dahicar eredeti hozzászólása:

Cp-3380 eredeti hozzászólása:

I cant understand that stupid fashion of some mmorpg that think a females cant be a warriors or males can be a mages. Seriously in my opinion if you sell freedom in a game like all mmorpg does at least let me choose my way. The rest of the game looks great but meh warriors can be male, artillery can be male all the rest female.

I didn't know that people would play Lost Ark as if it were The Sims 4. Here you choose your favorite class based on its abilities and gameplay, not on whether it has boobs or not. Every day you guys surprise me more.

Dont you think Lost Ark will have a significant higher amount of female players than other games in this specific genre?
Sims 4 does also have a much higher female gamer rate than other games.
Most (around 90%) of female players will play a female character if they can choose it.
Around 30% of guys prefer playing female characters if they can choose to.
The rate of guys wanting to play female characters will probably even be higher in Lost Ark.

[Pijus]

´EE`∞Eternal Father eredeti hozzászólása:

Dahicar eredeti hozzászólása:

I didn't know that people would play Lost Ark as if it were The Sims 4. Here you choose your favorite class based on its abilities and gameplay, not on whether it has boobs or not. Every day you guys surprise me more.

Dont you think Lost Ark will have a significant higher amount of female players than other games in this specific genre?
Sims 4 does also have a much higher female gamer rate than other games.
Most (around 90%) of female players will play a female character if they can choose it.
Around 30% of guys prefer playing female characters if they can choose to.
The rate of guys wanting to play female characters will probably even be higher in Lost Ark.

can you give me a relevant source to prove that % you said?

[Mako Slushie]

Dahicar eredeti hozzászólása:

´EE`∞Eternal Father eredeti hozzászólása:

Dont you think Lost Ark will have a significant higher amount of female players than other games in this specific genre?
Sims 4 does also have a much higher female gamer rate than other games.
Most (around 90%) of female players will play a female character if they can choose it.
Around 30% of guys prefer playing female characters if they can choose to.
The rate of guys wanting to play female characters will probably even be higher in Lost Ark.

can you give me a relevant source to prove that % you said?

You’d have to get a very large sample size of the entire LA player base, then you’d have to set up some type of system like the Reddit verification system and have people take screenshots of them beside their character, with a piece of paper verifying time and date and then collect all that data and make percentages based off that.

Anyone can throw numbers and percents out there for topics like, “ x players play female and x players play males” - there’s just no efficient or practical way of ever really knowing.

You could have some beast of a man, like 280lbs 10% body fat guy, playing a loli character dressed up like a carrot. You never know.

[Fairlyn]

Ok, but buy our bikini and school uniform costumes please

[CardinalS1]

Burn One Twice eredeti hozzászólása:

Cp-3380 eredeti hozzászólása:

I cant understand that stupid fashion of some mmorpg that think a females cant be a warriors or males can be a mages. Seriously in my opinion if you sell freedom in a game like all mmorpg does at least let me choose my way. The rest of the game looks great but meh warriors can be male, artillery can be male all the rest female.

On the flip side im a guy in real life that enjoys martial arts.

Im planning on playing the hell out of this game but the fact that I can't play a male martial artist is incredibly stupid and makes zero sense to me.

Tried to play the female martial artist and just couldnt do it. I don't understand how other men play female characters.

me neither. i only play male characters in mmos i was annoyed that there is no rogue male. like wtf. Your telling me all assassins are ONLY female...

[Roxx]

Burn One Twice eredeti hozzászólása:

Cp-3380 eredeti hozzászólása:

I cant understand that stupid fashion of some mmorpg that think a females cant be a warriors or males can be a mages. Seriously in my opinion if you sell freedom in a game like all mmorpg does at least let me choose my way. The rest of the game looks great but meh warriors can be male, artillery can be male all the rest female.

On the flip side im a guy in real life that enjoys martial arts.

Im planning on playing the hell out of this game but the fact that I can't play a male martial artist is incredibly stupid and makes zero sense to me.

Tried to play the female martial artist and just couldnt do it. I don't understand how other men play female characters.

As a side note, I do have good news for you specifically, actually! We revealed the Striker as out 15th class today, which is a male Martial Artist.

https://www.playlostark.com/en-us/news/articles/martial-artist-advanced-classes

Just thought I'd share!