Why isn't the negative gold balance implemented in the NA version?

[MASTERNIKOFTW]

discuss why the system to scare the RMTers was not implemented in our version

[Arborea]

Because Amazon game division is trash

[Jason Wang Dang ✅]

amazon = greed.

they don't even let warehouse worker pee

[MASTERNIKOFTW]

i agree, i do not get it

how can you let some small time farmers make all this extra money off of your product!!

the only reason would be that the farmers are making them money, HOW THO???

otherwise they would hire a team to dedicated to snuffing out all the bots

i said before, but how can amazon use player numbers to determine the amount of profit they are making on the game???? are they just ignoring the direct income they receive from player actually giving them money??

are the eyes on a product more valuable than the money of the people looking at it????

[Utiviroo]

Originally posted by MASTERNIKOFTW:

i agree, i do not get it

how can you let some small time farmers make all this extra money off of your product!!

the only reason would be that the farmers are making them money, HOW THO???

otherwise they would hire a team to dedicated to snuffing out all the bots

i said before, but how can amazon use player numbers to determine the amount of profit they are making on the game???? are they just ignoring the direct income they receive from player actually giving them money??

are the eyes on a product more valuable than the money of the people looking at it????

Eyes on the product, you mean the streamers on twitch or what ever streaming platform. Maybe, if the ad revenue is high enough for saved streams. Some of those streamers get big followings.

Otherwise its just typical corporate simple speak so the business heads can understand what a number means without understanding the product or service properly, as an investor/shareholder. They only understand, making money, not making money, details don't concern them, beyond are they being lied to or not.

They probably can not tell a legit purchase from a fraud purchase, as in botter account with stolen CC details until it is far too late, i.e. charge backs or what ever. So they think they are making money for that week/month, but they actually are not, its fake/temporary money.

If it gets severe enough, even Steam will get black listed by CC companies, if the scale of fraud is big enough. Might explain some of the bans that are genuinely not people who have RMT'd they just got caught buying some refunded crystals, rather than cosmetics as F2P, this time around.

They might do that to wash botted gold with genuine player gold. Each gold coin is likely not tracked to that level, so they can't distinguish easily, or quickly/conclusively.

All speculation though.

It is what they generally do with money laundering operations in other criminal enterprises in other business fields, in the real, old world, as has been done for centuries. Catch a documentary if you want to know more.

[Squintis]

Originally posted by Utiviroo:

Originally posted by MASTERNIKOFTW:

i agree, i do not get it

how can you let some small time farmers make all this extra money off of your product!!

the only reason would be that the farmers are making them money, HOW THO???

otherwise they would hire a team to dedicated to snuffing out all the bots

i said before, but how can amazon use player numbers to determine the amount of profit they are making on the game???? are they just ignoring the direct income they receive from player actually giving them money??

are the eyes on a product more valuable than the money of the people looking at it????

Eyes on the product, you mean the streamers on twitch or what ever streaming platform. Maybe, if the ad revenue is high enough for saved streams. Some of those streamers get big followings.

Otherwise its just typical corporate simple speak so the business heads can understand what a number means without understanding the product or service properly, as an investor/shareholder. They only understand, making money, not making money, details don't concern them, beyond are they being lied to or not.

They probably can not tell a legit purchase from a fraud purchase, as in botter account with stolen CC details until it is far too late, i.e. charge backs or what ever. So they think they are making money for that week/month, but they actually are not, its fake/temporary money.

If it gets severe enough, even Steam will get black listed by CC companies, if the scale of fraud is big enough. Might explain some of the bans that are genuinely not people who have RMT'd they just got caught buying some refunded crystals, rather than cosmetics as F2P, this time around.

They might do that to wash botted gold with genuine player gold. Each gold coin is likely not tracked to that level, so they can't distinguish easily, or quickly/conclusively.

All speculation though.

It is what they generally do with money laundering operations in other criminal enterprises in other business fields, in the real, old world, as has been done for centuries. Catch a documentary if you want to know more.

kinda crazy how things that were really illegal like cartels and monopolies are just the norm now. like you said. this basically money laundering, but it's a big company and a video game so i guess it's not taken serious?

just like how there used to be laws against opening a theater that plays exclusively your films and don't play your films anywhere else, but now that's exactly what streaming services are doing.

[MASTERNIKOFTW]

WHAT IS REAALLY GOING ON AT AMAZON????

[✠Swampland✠]

There is negative Gold People in this forum are so out of touch its insane

[MASTERNIKOFTW]

Originally posted by ✠Morbisus✠:

There is negative Gold People in this forum are so out of touch its insane

is it in the game but not being used? you got example of NA user w negative gold?

[FhqwhTODD]

Originally posted by MASTERNIKOFTW:

is it in the game but not being used? you got example of NA user w negative gold?

Haven't heard of it either in the Steam version. I have seen users with negative gold in another client though.

[Boink]

The better question is why not permaban. It is more work to even try to reroll them. Hey guess what they can buy gold and if it ONLY negative or zero they can buy a lot and upgrade theirs to max.

[MASTERNIKOFTW]

Originally posted by Boink:

The better question is why not permaban. It is more work to even try to reroll them. Hey guess what they can buy gold and if it ONLY negative or zero they can buy a lot and upgrade theirs to max.

i kinda agree, if you mean resetting the RMTers character, and yea i guess they can pay amazon to fix their negative balance, but i dont think they should be able to pay to get it fixed and out of the red