Solo Raids are awesome!

[MindWarp]

Finally, the game turned into a solo ARPG. I hope they will continue to develop solo content, add hard mods, etc. For the first time in 500 hours, Valtan and Vikas dead. There are 5-8 wipes on each, but I'm clearly in overgeared. I like everything so far. I think I can play 2-3 chars and never interact with this toxic community anymore

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Prishax の投稿を引用：

Is it just me or do the solo modes of legion raids actually really expose how bad the group play is designed? I mean the solo mode is almost the same but there aren´t people who can kill you by not doing party wipe mechanics. It´s 1000% more fun and you actually learn stuff better.

Gold? There is still a lot of daily stuff to do(yes, even without una tasks) for gold and not requiring busses anymore makes you spend less gold too.

you right, i think the same, you see how easy the raids are without other players :)

[Fallen]

einfachFF の投稿を引用：

Prishax の投稿を引用：

Is it just me or do the solo modes of legion raids actually really expose how bad the group play is designed? I mean the solo mode is almost the same but there aren´t people who can kill you by not doing party wipe mechanics. It´s 1000% more fun and you actually learn stuff better.

Gold? There is still a lot of daily stuff to do(yes, even without una tasks) for gold and not requiring busses anymore makes you spend less gold too.

you right, i think the same, you see how easy the raids are without other players :)

especially Valtan. like i brought up earlier, you know the transition to when he goes ghost and he is slamming the ground? i thought he made the entire area deadly, but nope, it was other people. you can just run around him and not be hurt at all. it was usually that transition time that i died at when he first launched lol.

[NoxJS]

This game didn’t need a solo raid. It needed an easy pug version. Matchmake with randoms to enjoy the content and get some rewards or join a party finder for the hardcore version to challenge yourself and get full rewards. Easy and simple!

The solo raid is just a patch to try stopping people quitting but it has been the worst workaround ever. This is a f… MMO and not a single player game. It won’t stop people quitting. People like playing MULTIPLAYER activities in a MULTIPLAYER fu.. game!

These guys literally don’t know what the hell to do…

[76561198148697700]

can a f2p player solo raid?

[Hosenbund]

❤ の投稿を引用：

can a f2p player solo raid?

if you are skilled enough, sure

but dont be fooled, it is still balanced for the top 10% of players or for being overgeared

if you were not able to properly play the mechanics of the LA raids before, then you wont suceed in solo raids either

[Kirinketsu]

Lost Ark is more about Skill Level than Gear. Sure you need the gear to start the raid, but you dont need level 10 gems for any content, same for LOS 18.

There are many video of groups with full GLs or people on their Alts with event gems clearing content that many would say you need all lv 10 gems etc for... When Clown came out people were calling it hard, meanwhile people cleared it with no or only 1 engraving showing it could be done.

Thaemine The First is another example. The first month you had people with characters worth 10k to 80k+ USD struggling to clear it. After 1 month you had people on item level with mostly all lv 9 gems with 1 to 3 lv 10s clear it, a few month later you had groups with full event gems clear it.

Lost Ark is a learning curve game. You have to learn your class, and then learn to play your class in each raid.
For the most part there 4 thing you must learn each time a new raid releases in Lost Ark compared to say WoW where theres like 1 or 2.

You have to learn at what % the boss does a mech etc, you have to keep track of the bosses HP Bar.

You have to learn raid wide mechs, that require everyone in the raid to complete them in time or you likely die or wipe the whole raid.

You have to learn what is called "normal patterns" basic attacks of the raid boss, you have to learn the movements or sounds of the boss to know what normal pattern is about to be cast, and then decided how you need to deal with it. Do you have shield and can tank the damage, do you spacebar it, do you used a skill with superarmor if you have one or one is up to use, if the boss targeting you, do you need to turn the boss away, theres many things, and this is what most people fail at.

Lastly you have to learn how to have good uptime and how to greed damage. This is more or less the relearning to play your class every raid. You need to learn what attacks you can tank, what attacks you can superarmor or spacebar, where the boss is going to move to after an attack, when to save your burst or attacks, when to allow your class identity to falloff and recharge...and if you are an entropy class you have to do all of this while front or back attacking.

Some classes just require way more work to play, and you dont even do as much damage as easier to play classes. Its why you will see classes like Strikers, Deathblades, Slayers, Scrapers do no damage despite having all lv 10 gems etc. That player just cant play the class or lack the understanding of the class or the boss fight to have good uptime. Where a class like Zerker, Soul Eater, War Dancer, Shadow Hunter will always or most of the time always do good damage as long as they push their buttons in the right order.

Look at WoW, how easy most of the raids are and yet people rely on addon to play the game for them... Lost Ark has none of these addons and has 2x+ more things to learn along with you dont just sit still and cast you abilities. Its just a much harder game to play and many are not willing to put in the effort to learn.

[RealReality]

Kirinketsu の投稿を引用：

Lost Ark is more about Skill Level than Gear. Sure you need the gear to start the raid, but you dont need level 10 gems for any content, same for LOS 18.

There are many video of groups with full GLs or people on their Alts with event gems clearing content that many would say you need all lv 10 gems etc for... When Clown came out people were calling it hard, meanwhile people cleared it with no or only 1 engraving showing it could be done.

Thaemine The First is another example. The first month you had people with characters worth 10k to 80k+ USD struggling to clear it. After 1 month you had people on item level with mostly all lv 9 gems with 1 to 3 lv 10s clear it, a few month later you had groups with full event gems clear it.

Lost Ark is a learning curve game. You have to learn your class, and then learn to play your class in each raid.
For the most part there 4 thing you must learn each time a new raid releases in Lost Ark compared to say WoW where theres like 1 or 2.

You have to learn at what % the boss does a mech etc, you have to keep track of the bosses HP Bar.

You have to learn raid wide mechs, that require everyone in the raid to complete them in time or you likely die or wipe the whole raid.

You have to learn what is called "normal patterns" basic attacks of the raid boss, you have to learn the movements or sounds of the boss to know what normal pattern is about to be cast, and then decided how you need to deal with it. Do you have shield and can tank the damage, do you spacebar it, do you used a skill with superarmor if you have one or one is up to use, if the boss targeting you, do you need to turn the boss away, theres many things, and this is what most people fail at.

Lastly you have to learn how to have good uptime and how to greed damage. This is more or less the relearning to play your class every raid. You need to learn what attacks you can tank, what attacks you can superarmor or spacebar, where the boss is going to move to after an attack, when to save your burst or attacks, when to allow your class identity to falloff and recharge...and if you are an entropy class you have to do all of this while front or back attacking.

Some classes just require way more work to play, and you dont even do as much damage as easier to play classes. Its why you will see classes like Strikers, Deathblades, Slayers, Scrapers do no damage despite having all lv 10 gems etc. That player just cant play the class or lack the understanding of the class or the boss fight to have good uptime. Where a class like Zerker, Soul Eater, War Dancer, Shadow Hunter will always or most of the time always do good damage as long as they push their buttons in the right order.

Look at WoW, how easy most of the raids are and yet people rely on addon to play the game for them... Lost Ark has none of these addons and has 2x+ more things to learn along with you dont just sit still and cast you abilities. Its just a much harder game to play and many are not willing to put in the effort to learn.

WoW you don't need to learn anything there is literally timers on DBM showing you everything that is coming and going to be coming. Why lots of WoW players were useless in this game.

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RealReality の投稿を引用：

Kirinketsu の投稿を引用：

Lost Ark is more about Skill Level than Gear. Sure you need the gear to start the raid, but you dont need level 10 gems for any content, same for LOS 18.

There are many video of groups with full GLs or people on their Alts with event gems clearing content that many would say you need all lv 10 gems etc for... When Clown came out people were calling it hard, meanwhile people cleared it with no or only 1 engraving showing it could be done.

Thaemine The First is another example. The first month you had people with characters worth 10k to 80k+ USD struggling to clear it. After 1 month you had people on item level with mostly all lv 9 gems with 1 to 3 lv 10s clear it, a few month later you had groups with full event gems clear it.

Lost Ark is a learning curve game. You have to learn your class, and then learn to play your class in each raid.
For the most part there 4 thing you must learn each time a new raid releases in Lost Ark compared to say WoW where theres like 1 or 2.

You have to learn at what % the boss does a mech etc, you have to keep track of the bosses HP Bar.

You have to learn raid wide mechs, that require everyone in the raid to complete them in time or you likely die or wipe the whole raid.

You have to learn what is called "normal patterns" basic attacks of the raid boss, you have to learn the movements or sounds of the boss to know what normal pattern is about to be cast, and then decided how you need to deal with it. Do you have shield and can tank the damage, do you spacebar it, do you used a skill with superarmor if you have one or one is up to use, if the boss targeting you, do you need to turn the boss away, theres many things, and this is what most people fail at.

Lastly you have to learn how to have good uptime and how to greed damage. This is more or less the relearning to play your class every raid. You need to learn what attacks you can tank, what attacks you can superarmor or spacebar, where the boss is going to move to after an attack, when to save your burst or attacks, when to allow your class identity to falloff and recharge...and if you are an entropy class you have to do all of this while front or back attacking.

Some classes just require way more work to play, and you dont even do as much damage as easier to play classes. Its why you will see classes like Strikers, Deathblades, Slayers, Scrapers do no damage despite having all lv 10 gems etc. That player just cant play the class or lack the understanding of the class or the boss fight to have good uptime. Where a class like Zerker, Soul Eater, War Dancer, Shadow Hunter will always or most of the time always do good damage as long as they push their buttons in the right order.

Look at WoW, how easy most of the raids are and yet people rely on addon to play the game for them... Lost Ark has none of these addons and has 2x+ more things to learn along with you dont just sit still and cast you abilities. Its just a much harder game to play and many are not willing to put in the effort to learn.

WoW you don't need to learn anything there is literally timers on DBM showing you everything that is coming and going to be coming. Why lots of WoW players were useless in this game.

Sadly that's true lol.

[Fallen]

Kirinketsu の投稿を引用：

Lost Ark is more about Skill Level than Gear. Sure you need the gear to start the raid, but you dont need level 10 gems for any content, same for LOS 18.

There are many video of groups with full GLs or people on their Alts with event gems clearing content that many would say you need all lv 10 gems etc for... When Clown came out people were calling it hard, meanwhile people cleared it with no or only 1 engraving showing it could be done.

Clown really is not hard, he is just bs and his main mechanics are quiet frankly badly designed. gotta build up clown/mayhem to do the "mario" platform stuff but it can build so slowly that your timeframe to get it can pass before you can even transform, and the controls in the "mario" mini game are just not that good, sometimes it does not even register you hitting the clown form jump skill even if it lights up.

to be honest as a returning player that dropped off after valtan's toxic playerbase started forming up, with clown and brel, it almost comes off as if the devs got a little lazy and decided to see how much random crap they could shove onto the screen and into the raids for "challenge".

[Detergent]

I think the story goes, Valtan and Vykas had a raid designer (No idea on the name) while Kakul had a different person design that raid.
The person who designed Valtan and Vykas also worked on Brel? Or maybe it was 3rd person entering the scene? Not 100% sure. Stopped keeping track with Brel and everything after.

Thats why Kakul feels different. But I wouldn't call it bad. Different and not as good, but not bad imo.

[Kirinketsu]

Clown is considered one of the best raids in the game in both KR and NA/EU.

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Kirinketsu の投稿を引用：

Clown is considered one of the best raids in the game in both KR and NA/EU.

True, Clown was 10/10 fun.

[Hosenbund]

Lost Ark is considered one of the worst MMORPGs in both NA/EU

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Hosenbund の投稿を引用：

Lost Ark is considered one of the worst MMORPGs in both NA/EU

According to who, you?
Lost ark has one of the best combat styles out of anything that's out there currently, Best raids than anything out there aswell.
Nice try tho.

[Detergent]

According to himself its the best raids the genre has to offer.

Hosenbund の投稿を引用：

i could argue about so many stuff.. how the game will change and become super challenging later on with the best raids the genre has to offer.. but i think its wasted here..

"i could argue about so many stuff"
I bet he didn't think arguing with himself was on that list of so many things.