Lost Ark
New player noob question^^
What class should I play? I watched a lot of videos and I played a little or berserker back on release, I'm thinking about something like mage or something mobile and fun, any recommendations? Something maybe not very complicated
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I play the 3 support classes and i can say 100% that both Artist and Paladin overall is the most casual friendly classes on Lost Ark for new players, like i listed above the community loves them on their party/raid so no gatekeeping problem for new players, they usually runs heavy armor even with 4x3 which makes them ez to prog and forgiving to take hits while at the same time being cheap to build, you could've used better arguments against sups like the need to make a specific mass preset build with preemptive strike and other engravings to do chaos dungeons faster but thats much less stressfull than the gatekeeping nightmare, i consider myself a mid-level player and i'm already facing the nightmare to find party for my 1560 dps on 1540 normal mode Kayangel, all the Kayangel i did with my DPS was with the help with my friends, without them i would be playing lobby simulator for hours and possible face the gate 2 limbo, while on my main sup char i can do pug Kayangel before reset no problem, the difference for a DPS to a Support class for new players in group content is like Heaven and Hell, any DPS class is will be hell for a new player once they try to do Clown or Kayangel on item level.
♥♥♥♥♥♥ I can believe that, I play many mmos and I usually end up as a tank because I can't find group as a dps, alright so which support is the most fun in your opinion? Raw fun


The fun that i have in this game is bringing utility to the raid, and by far Artist for me is the most fun in that regard because of her multi-cleanse portal and on-demand heals that you drop on the ground for 60s and the dps classes on your party decides when they take those heal balls, usually Paladin is better than Artist for giving more damage to the raid because his buffs are easier to use but his heals are not good on critical situations because they are mostly overtime.


Since you like playing as a tank and dps on other MMO's the best recomendation i can give you is Lone Knight Gunlancer, altought he is a bit hard because his dash is backwards, he just like sup classes is preferred on raids because of his multiples utilityes, he is tankier than the majority of other dps classes, has a taunt that affect some bosses, can gives shields to the party, and is probably the dps class that faces the least ammount of gatekeeping, since you will be playing Red Gunlancer(Lone Knight) you will have enought swiftness to run fast and have an easier time doing mecs, homewer i don't recommend this class for using the story express, this class is good and fun for me on group content, on solo content its a unfun class in my opinion, playing the leveling story-line with this class was a pain.
Ultima modifica da The Beatles; 13 nov 2023, ore 16:56
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♥♥♥♥♥♥ I can believe that, I play many mmos and I usually end up as a tank because I can't find group as a dps, alright so which support is the most fun in your opinion? Raw fun


The fun that i have in this game is bringing utility to the raid, and by far Artist for me is the most fun in that regard because of her multi-cleanse portal and on-demand heals that you drop on the ground for 60s and the dps classes on your party decides when they take those heal balls, usually Paladin is better than Artist for giving more damage to the raid.


Since you like playing as a tank and dps on other MMO's the best recomendation i can give you is Lone Knight Gunlancer, altought he is a bit hard because his dash is backwards, he just like sup classes is preferred on raids because of his multiples utilityes, he is tankier than the majority of other dps classes, has a taunt that affect some bosses, can gives shields to the party, and is probably the dps class that faces the least ammount of gatekeeping, since you will be playing Red Gunlancer(Lone Knight) you will have enought swiftness to run fast and have an easier time doing mecs, homewer i don't recommend this class for using the story express, this class is good and fun for me on group content, on solo content its a unfun class in my opinion.
I for sure want to play a girl character now, played my berserker back then and want to play a girl now haha, ngl gunlancer doesn't sound interesting to me, men that sucks I really wanted to play something like sorcerer/mage but it looks like I will play a support to get into groups, so Artist then? I will watch some videos on her
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The fun that i have in this game is bringing utility to the raid, and by far Artist for me is the most fun in that regard because of her multi-cleanse portal and on-demand heals that you drop on the ground for 60s and the dps classes on your party decides when they take those heal balls, usually Paladin is better than Artist for giving more damage to the raid.


Since you like playing as a tank and dps on other MMO's the best recomendation i can give you is Lone Knight Gunlancer, altought he is a bit hard because his dash is backwards, he just like sup classes is preferred on raids because of his multiples utilityes, he is tankier than the majority of other dps classes, has a taunt that affect some bosses, can gives shields to the party, and is probably the dps class that faces the least ammount of gatekeeping, since you will be playing Red Gunlancer(Lone Knight) you will have enought swiftness to run fast and have an easier time doing mecs, homewer i don't recommend this class for using the story express, this class is good and fun for me on group content, on solo content its a unfun class in my opinion.
I for sure want to play a girl character now, played my berserker back then and want to play a girl now haha, ngl gunlancer doesn't sound interesting to me, men that sucks I really wanted to play something like sorcerer/mage but it looks like I will play a support to get into groups, so Artist then? I will watch some videos on her


You can play Sorc late-on once you have enought experience in raids, you have 6 free slots for characters on each server(i recommend playing on only one server), after you have like 2-3 sups chars and generates a good gold income weekly you can create a well-build Igniter Sorc and do big-numbas, i don't recommend creating DPS right away because the legion raids on Lost Ark are VERY HARD! and the majority of veterans don't have patience to wipe for hours with new players(sups are easier to get carried), unfortunately LA market is not in a good spot for new/casual players starting with a DPS class, my recomendation takes into consideration the costs of builds for new players and Artist and Paladin can build 4x3 engravings and do endgame content fine, while for DPS 5x3 engravings are mandatory and even with that you will face gatekeep if you have low roster level, sometimes i face gatekeep even with 5x3+1 engravings on my DPS because both roster level and "it's a non-meta class", with sup class like Artist or Paladin you won't face these silly problems.
Ultima modifica da The Beatles; 13 nov 2023, ore 17:08
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I for sure want to play a girl character now, played my berserker back then and want to play a girl now haha, ngl gunlancer doesn't sound interesting to me, men that sucks I really wanted to play something like sorcerer/mage but it looks like I will play a support to get into groups, so Artist then? I will watch some videos on her


You can play Sorc late-on once you have enought experience in raids, you have 6 free slots for characters on each server(i recommend playing on only one server), after you have like 2-3 sups chars and generates a good gold income weekly you can create a well-build Igniter Sorc and do big-numbas, i don't recommend creating DPS right away because the legion raids on Lost Ark are VERY HARD! and the majority of veterans don't have patience to wipe for hours with new players(sups are easier to get carried), unfortunately LA market is not in a good spot for new/casual players starting with a DPS class, my recomendation takes into consideration the costs of builds for new players and Artist and Paladin can build 4x3 engravings and do endgame content fine, while for DPS 5x3 engravings are mandatory and even with that you will face gatekeep if you have low roster level.
You know I think now that I will wait for Soul eater to release (it's tomorrow right, 15 November?) because she looks really fun, and also I will be starting the game from 0, entire story etc and then once I beat the story and have my fun with some dungeons solo content world etc I will make my support for end game content ^^ also considering playing black desert online, another game with cool combat but pay to win ehh
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You can play Sorc late-on once you have enought experience in raids, you have 6 free slots for characters on each server(i recommend playing on only one server), after you have like 2-3 sups chars and generates a good gold income weekly you can create a well-build Igniter Sorc and do big-numbas, i don't recommend creating DPS right away because the legion raids on Lost Ark are VERY HARD! and the majority of veterans don't have patience to wipe for hours with new players(sups are easier to get carried), unfortunately LA market is not in a good spot for new/casual players starting with a DPS class, my recomendation takes into consideration the costs of builds for new players and Artist and Paladin can build 4x3 engravings and do endgame content fine, while for DPS 5x3 engravings are mandatory and even with that you will face gatekeep if you have low roster level.
You know I think now that I will wait for Soul eater to release (it's tomorrow right, 15 November?) because she looks really fun, and also I will be starting the game from 0, entire story etc and then once I beat the story and have my fun with some dungeons solo content world etc I will make my support for end game content ^^ also considering playing black desert online, another game with cool combat but pay to win ehh


Soul Eater is good for new players actually, its a non-positional Hit Master class which means you don't need to be sniffing the boss butts all the time like the Entropy classes, but the problem will be her build price, since its a new class it will be costly to build 5x3 on her, you can use a future hyper express on her thought, in the next 3 months there will be probably another one.

Also another thing before starting: don't underestimate lifeskills, these will help you to increase your item level on endgame, and Lost Ark is a game about patience and consistency on farm.
Ultima modifica da The Beatles; 13 nov 2023, ore 17:18
wait for male mage. or male samurai.
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The fun that i have in this game is bringing utility to the raid, and by far Artist for me is the most fun in that regard because of her multi-cleanse portal and on-demand heals that you drop on the ground for 60s and the dps classes on your party decides when they take those heal balls, usually Paladin is better than Artist for giving more damage to the raid.


Since you like playing as a tank and dps on other MMO's the best recomendation i can give you is Lone Knight Gunlancer, altought he is a bit hard because his dash is backwards, he just like sup classes is preferred on raids because of his multiples utilityes, he is tankier than the majority of other dps classes, has a taunt that affect some bosses, can gives shields to the party, and is probably the dps class that faces the least ammount of gatekeeping, since you will be playing Red Gunlancer(Lone Knight) you will have enought swiftness to run fast and have an easier time doing mecs, homewer i don't recommend this class for using the story express, this class is good and fun for me on group content, on solo content its a unfun class in my opinion.
I for sure want to play a girl character now, played my berserker back then and want to play a girl now haha, ngl gunlancer doesn't sound interesting to me, men that sucks I really wanted to play something like sorcerer/mage but it looks like I will play a support to get into groups, so Artist then? I will watch some videos on her

i REAAAAAALLY dont recommend sorcs tho, in this game sorcs are extremely expensive and imo its not worthy to build any spec class until you have some gold income to be able to pay for her accs, for example, i built my evo scouter, he is a spec based transformation class, just one of my accs was 80k g, imo if you are stil looking for DPSers, the swift based ones are the most cheap and the easiest ones to play at the moment
Messaggio originale di Hurricane:
What class should I play? I watched a lot of videos and I played a little or berserker back on release, I'm thinking about something like mage or something mobile and fun, any recommendations? Something maybe not very complicated

nothing is complicated for any class until endgame. then its too complex.
Messaggio originale di FeelsGoodMan:
Its hard to say imo every class is a lot of fun.
Next week also the new souleater class gets released with new endgame boost event for everyone.

Handsdown I would say pistol deadeye. All ym frieds tell me how much fun the class is.
You got good utility (stagger dmg) for the team, realy good mobility (2 spacebar dashs charges and mobility skills) and this class build is easy to play ( no rotation )

Other classes:

If you want mobility -> deathblade, reaper imo.
Reaper can teleport behinde the boss and has like 2 dash skills as well.
Deathblade can jump over the boss to backattack.

Source mage is also fun (reflax sorce build not the ignite one).

Classes with you shouldnt play:
Arcana: Yu Gi Oh hard RNG class. You darw cards and this gives you buffs like 100% crit and so one. Its a hard class. Same for soulfist in my opinion you need good gear and then class is rly fun.

I my opinion pistolir deadeye is a good choice, also like aeromancer.

Finally! someone else mentioning deadeye pistoleer!

last time i recommended this class on these discussions i was accused of being some sort of mastermind wanting to control end game auction house for materials and gear...

DE pistoleer has become my main alt, very mobile, very fun, they are meant to be squishy but with your hyper mobility getting hit by stuff does not happen often when you learn a raid.

they are fairly brain dead, in terms of theres no real rotation just need to time your judge / conviction skills together, rest of the time your just dancing round the boss firing guns :D

cheap to gear, but expensive on gems, need lots of damage gems!

and most importantly, dont feel the need to be at the latest raid, doing the latest stuff... there will come a time when we are waiting 6-8 months for new content and you will catchup to everyone in the game with ease... enjoy what you can, take your time and dont compare yourself to other people or whales!

try and find a friendly guild / community on discord to play with, helps alot!
i suggest going for a swift class for your first character as is easy to play and get around mechs with, its the best classes to learn Raid mechs with.

this includes
1. Glaivier Control
2. Soul Fist Energy Overflow
3. Wardancer First Intention = getting new skills and boost soon
4. Reaper Hunger = most mobile class in the game but a bit squishy, also very fun
5. Scrapper Taijutsu = also getting reworked

if your looking for pure DPS and a more mechanical class then Death Blade or Deadeye is the way.


Ultima modifica da Xianxia; 15 nov 2023, ore 10:00
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i suggest going for a swift class for your first character as is easy to play and get around mechs with, its the best classes to learn Raid mechs with.

this includes
1. Glaivier Control
2. Soul Fist Energy Overflow
3. Wardancer First Intention = getting new skills and boost soon
4. Reaper Hunger = most mobile class in the game but a bit squishy, also very fun
5. Scrapper Taijutsu = also getting reworked

if your looking for pure DPS and a more mechanical class then Death Blade or Deadeye is the way.

Could also try Predator slayer, swift with mobility skills, and tanky!
Messaggio originale di Xianxia:
i suggest going for a swift class for your first character as is easy to play and get around mechs with, its the best classes to learn Raid mechs with.

this includes
1. Glaivier Control
2. Soul Fist Energy Overflow
3. Wardancer First Intention = getting new skills and boost soon
4. Reaper Hunger = most mobile class in the game but a bit squishy, also very fun
5. Scrapper Taijutsu = also getting reworked

if your looking for pure DPS and a more mechanical class then Death Blade or Deadeye is the way.

None of those classes are easy to play, you listed back attack classes that have gauge etc management other than SF which requires managing Hype which requires full knowledge of a fight and understanding your parties dps and how fast you are pushing for example
Quick Run Down of what I consider new/casual/easy

Shadow Hunter
Has two completely different builds

Demonic Impulse
Pros
Fast and has movement skills
Has a self Heal
Is cheap to build only need 2 gems
Is Hit Master
Con
Requires a level 10 damage gem and a level 8-10 cooldown
One of the lowest damage classes, but being Hit Master makes up for it on uptime vs the average player

Perfect Suppression
Pros
Is Swiftness
fast and has movement skills
Damage is above average
Has Hit Master option
Cons
Hit Master does less damage than the Entropy build
Entropy does higher damage but requires back attacking and mana food or sup that are good
Requires many Tripods and Gems

Deadeye
Has two completely different builds

Pistoleer
Pros
Has many movement skills
Is "Hit Master"
Fun, its like you are playing a DMC game
Cons
Requires many gems and Tripods
Very squishy, as weak as a bard but have much less HP

Enhanced weapon "avoid"
Pros
Does above average damage
semi Burst
Has movement skills
Cons
Requires many tripods and Gems
Slow moving and animations
Entropy, back attack on top of having damage falloff if more than like 2m from taget
Very Squishy
Requires a lot of work and skill to play to deal less damage than other classes

Slayer
Has Burst and Off Cooldown builds

Predator
Pro
Swiftness
Has movement skills
Attacks have very long range
Quick animations
Cons
Entropy, but has very long range

Punisher "avoid"
Pros
Burst Class
Big Numbers
Has Long Range
Requires 3-4 damage gems
Has movement skill
Cons
Slow
Burst class
Need to build gauge
Entropy
Requires many tripods

Soul Eater

Both specs have many movement skills
Both specs have long range attacks
Both specs are "Hit Master"
Cons
multiple gauge management
You have a burst window

Summoner/Master Summoner
Hit Master
Plays like igniter sorc but easier, you miss you feel bad
Has movement skills etc

Reflux Sorc
Hit Master
Been getting buffs, not sure if we have them yet
Easier to play than igniter or Summoner
Requires mana management

Gunslinger
Long Range
Hit Master
Many movement skills that also give movement speed
Has a Swiftness build
People sleep on Time to Hunt which removes shotgun so you only have pistols and rifle making game play easier, but you turn into a spamy class

Gunlancer
Who needs movement when you block everything with your face
Needs few gems
Uses like 3 skills
Will always be invited

Scouter
Has two builds, think Shadow Hunter

Hit Master
Both have movement skills and speed
One requires only 2 gems no tripods
The other requires many gems and tripods and skill management for the trade of doing way more damage.

Sharpshooter

Death Strike
Movement skills
Hit Master
Range
Burt
High numbers
Ultima modifica da Kirinketsu; 15 nov 2023, ore 14:48
depends on your playstyle.
yes most of them are 'hit foe with weapon and weapon bases ablities till they dead'

if youve played other MMO types what classes/Jobs do you like?
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