new patch = more p2w "sidereal weapons"

[ahwiro]

I thought Amazon will work with SG to rework some systems when I've started playing since that's what they said on beginning but i was so wrong believing that sidereal weapons are beyond ridiculous and you get more benefits beside power increase x100 times worse than legendary skins you can't even compare it, you need 90 stones that have very low drop chance and on other servers just one cost 2 mil gold + you need 3 more mats amazing upcoming elixir system which is worse than cutting stones with all the negative feedback you think that they will made some changes but is only getting worse every new patch.
I understand maybe this work on KR server but on other regions changes need to be made this is ain't 2009, JP server died for a reason and not because the game is bad.
Good Luck because this will have BDO player numbers very soon btw that game was amazing but ruined by greed and intentional game designs same issue here.

[OakYi]

esther weapons are very good for f2p players, good they introduced it

[Jango]

Originally posted by taiosen-:

this will have BDO player numbers very soon btw that game was amazing but ruined by greed and intentional game designs same issue here.

BDO was always trash though :/
Could just auto attack/run everywhere which made it easier but the game still failed so guess making things easier also made the game very boring. :/
now bdo is just left with bots and low player counts.

[「OnTheCouch」]

what is the downside of this? serious question

[lizzo (report harder)]

just wait till ags releases p2w gear sets.

[ahwiro]

Originally posted by 「OnTheCouch」:

what is the downside of this? serious question

If you accept this now then next time you will get Sidereal weapons 2.0 with even more benefits but double the price so that they cash out even more from 1% of playerbase and there are downsides the exchange crystals=gold will increase because everyone will want to have gold to buy these stones early since is going to be very low chance drop and limited on marketplace just another system that encourages RMT environment.

[「OnTheCouch」]

low chance of free to play character to use it. so how much the weapon cost for crafting to +8? lets say you are whale and wants that weapon on day 1?

[OakYi]

Originally posted by 「OnTheCouch」:

low chance of free to play character to use it. so how much the weapon cost for crafting to +8? lets say you are whale and wants that weapon on day 1?

very unlikely that the market will offer enough for +8 on day1 but u need ~90 esther stones (500.000 gold each in KR) ~ 15k romantic kits and ~300 phantom intentions (dont even know what that is). i dont think you can craft 15k romantic kits in one day even if you have hundreds of time reduction tickets. lets assume there are enough players finding esther stones on day1 and selling them on the auctionhouse, and lets just say u buying 90 esther stones for 45million gold on day 1, if you buy other players gold on the currency exchange, that would be 4million royal crystals /12kroyals = 33,333~euro just for the esther stones, rest not included. but thats ofc only speculation since we dont know the prices yet, and the price where they will balance out for western regions.

btw. you can get 30 esther stones from brel exchange shop and 30 esther stones from akkan exchange shop so far in KR (characterbound). that being said, you dont need the weapon, and if you want to have it, you dont need to buy it for money if you grind the game long enough.

[Catherina]

whatever these weapons are, they seem to have pretty RNG effects and that's a big yikes, i won't spend any gold on that crap as it seems completely pointless and such a waste, pretty sure we've got enough RNG crap already and now they adding even more RNG items so no thanks not interested.

[Yin x Sooyung]

Originally posted by Jango:

Originally posted by taiosen-:

this will have BDO player numbers very soon btw that game was amazing but ruined by greed and intentional game designs same issue here.

BDO was always trash though :/
Could just auto attack/run everywhere which made it easier but the game still failed so guess making things easier also made the game very boring. :/
now bdo is just left with bots and low player counts.

wtf r u even saying LOL

[Jango]

Originally posted by Yin x Sooyung:

Originally posted by Jango:

BDO was always trash though :/
Could just auto attack/run everywhere which made it easier but the game still failed so guess making things easier also made the game very boring. :/
now bdo is just left with bots and low player counts.

wtf r u even saying LOL

That BDO is trash LOL

[lizzo (report harder)]

Originally posted by Yin x Sooyung:

Originally posted by Jango:

BDO was always trash though :/
Could just auto attack/run everywhere which made it easier but the game still failed so guess making things easier also made the game very boring. :/
now bdo is just left with bots and low player counts.

wtf r u even saying LOL

i think bdo is some kind of trigger mechanism

[「OnTheCouch」]

Originally posted by OakYi:

Originally posted by 「OnTheCouch」:

low chance of free to play character to use it. so how much the weapon cost for crafting to +8? lets say you are whale and wants that weapon on day 1?

very unlikely that the market will offer enough for +8 on day1 but u need ~90 esther stones (500.000 gold each in KR) ~ 15k romantic kits and ~300 phantom intentions (dont even know what that is). i dont think you can craft 15k romantic kits in one day even if you have hundreds of time reduction tickets. lets assume there are enough players finding esther stones on day1 and selling them on the auctionhouse, and lets just say u buying 90 esther stones for 45million gold on day 1, if you buy other players gold on the currency exchange, that would be 4million royal crystals /12kroyals = 33,333~euro just for the esther stones, rest not included. but thats ofc only speculation since we dont know the prices yet, and the price where they will balance out for western regions.

btw. you can get 30 esther stones from brel exchange shop and 30 esther stones from akkan exchange shop so far in KR (characterbound). that being said, you dont need the weapon, and if you want to have it, you dont need to buy it for money if you grind the game long enough.

dayum son. thank you for the break down. ya, i read that you also need to get your +25 weapon first before doing that. which already expensive.
but then, this mean its a time for f2p selling those mats to whales, right.

you will be bathe in gold for a months.
holy moly, and yea was read on official forum, someone break it down that it takes around 5 year+ if you want that weeapon with grinding.

so, this weapon is filler weapon, that really does not affect player at all as OP stated then?
inflated gold, dont think so. 33K euro is so much. players RMT most likely, we already see that ingame.

[ahwiro]

Originally posted by 「OnTheCouch」:

Originally posted by OakYi:

very unlikely that the market will offer enough for +8 on day1 but u need ~90 esther stones (500.000 gold each in KR) ~ 15k romantic kits and ~300 phantom intentions (dont even know what that is). i dont think you can craft 15k romantic kits in one day even if you have hundreds of time reduction tickets. lets assume there are enough players finding esther stones on day1 and selling them on the auctionhouse, and lets just say u buying 90 esther stones for 45million gold on day 1, if you buy other players gold on the currency exchange, that would be 4million royal crystals /12kroyals = 33,333~euro just for the esther stones, rest not included. but thats ofc only speculation since we dont know the prices yet, and the price where they will balance out for western regions.

btw. you can get 30 esther stones from brel exchange shop and 30 esther stones from akkan exchange shop so far in KR (characterbound). that being said, you dont need the weapon, and if you want to have it, you dont need to buy it for money if you grind the game long enough.

dayum son. thank you for the break down. ya, i read that you also need to get your +25 weapon first before doing that. which already expensive.
but then, this mean its a time for f2p selling those mats to whales, right.

you will be bathe in gold for a months.
holy moly, and yea was read on official forum, someone break it down that it takes around 5 year+ if you want that weeapon with grinding.

so, this weapon is filler weapon, that really does not affect player at all as OP stated then?
inflated gold, dont think so. 33K euro is so much. players RMT most likely, we already see that ingame.

You get more benefits beside attack power increase, the sidereal buffs example: Inanna can revive you 1 time if you die in any raid.
you need first the achievement +25 weapon and the materials needed are ridiculous 367,440 oreha solar carps, 367,440 of the highest tier flowers, 183,720 highest tier mushrooms 122,480 oreha relics, 61,240 oreha meat and 1,5 mil raw gold, without the stones cost which you need 98* you can get 1 bound stone every 2 weeks if you buy the boxes from raid and you still need to buy the rest anyway seems reasonable just farm few years there are players on RU/KR that didn't get even one stone after months of farming on multiple characters imagine how low the chance is, BDO level even worse because of time-gate mechanics now we only have the weapon next time we will have the full gear set.
"doesn't directly affect you in the beginning, it will later when the developers start making the game itself evolve around p2w, It starts out as a way to support the game, but it usually ends up being the game itself."

[KillerPanda]

to be honest i don´t really want to have the sideral weapon :D i just want to drop the sideral energy and sell it to the whales for about 600k-1mill gold
so it is a win win, the whale can juice their char and i can get gold for my main and/or alts....letse goooo

[「OnTheCouch」]

Originally posted by taiosen-:

You get more benefits beside attack power increase, the sidereal buffs example: Inanna can revive you 1 time if you die in any raid.
you need first the achievement +25 weapon and the materials needed are ridiculous 367,440 oreha solar carps, 367,440 of the highest tier flowers, 183,720 highest tier mushrooms 122,480 oreha relics, 61,240 oreha meat and 1,5 mil raw gold, without the stones cost which you need 98* you can get 1 bound stone every 2 weeks if you buy the boxes from raid and you still need to buy the rest anyway seems reasonable just farm few years there are players on RU/KR that didn't get even one stone after months of farming on multiple characters imagine how low the chance is, BDO level even worse because of time-gate mechanics now we only have the weapon next time we will have the full gear set.
"doesn't directly affect you in the beginning, it will later when the developers start making the game itself evolve around p2w, It starts out as a way to support the game, but it usually ends up being the game itself."

right right. me personally, cant see that in near future. but maybe in 2 or 3 month we will see those chinese whale. if they are not migrating to their own server.

Originally posted by KillerPanda:

to be honest i don´t really want to have the sideral weapon :D i just want to drop the sideral energy and sell it to the whales for about 600k-1mill gold
so it is a win win, the whale can juice their char and i can get gold for my main and/or alts....letse goooo

right???? literally you can finally raise alts or gear em up especially with 40% honing buff. gg man