Look at the percentage of players who have unlocked certain (critical) achievements.

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This game has lost so many players for two reasons:
1) It's a game published by Amazon so the mass was expecting something great despite New World.
2) Most of the people who bought the pass from bronze to platinum didn't know what the game was all about.

To give you an example that relies on achievement data:

1) Only 0.1% unlocked the achievement: Stronghold Development Plan. In practice, only 0.1% have built their entire personal island from which raw materials are obtained (instead of spending real money).

2) Only 0.2% of the entire playerbase participated in the timer event of taking treasures from the seabed. The achievement is called: Treasure Chest Collector.

3) Only 0.3% of the entire playerbase has reached level sixty.

In practice, only 0.3% of players understood how the game worked and reached the endgame.

This data is public. Check if you want.

I myself see people making Valtan with the island at lv. 21.

Normally when doing Valtan your island is at 70 (if you understand how the game works - you don't buy resources from the shop).

Also after some time the game becomes so simple that in three hours a day you can do everything you need to do with 6 alts.
Basically 99% of people say how bad the endgame is without even reaching it.

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[yoda gaming]

You realize the achievements have such low completion % because a lot of the playerbase is/was bots right?

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Originally posted by yoda gaming:

You realize the achievements have such low completion % because a lot of the playerbase is/was bots right?

Have you ever seen the programs that are used for botting? I think not. There is no personal island completion in the scripts.

[Todd Howard = Todd Retard]

You missed one thing: entire design which was made by SGR

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Originally posted by yoda gaming:

You realize the achievements have such low completion % because a lot of the playerbase is/was bots right?

It would not make sense. The goal is to make gold not unlock all the structures on the island. If you do a google search you will see that there will be bots that work at the kernel level (they get blocked by the EAC after a while) and then there are the bots that do nothing but take snapshots of the desktop and then take actions (hard to catch).

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Originally posted by Report unusual behavior:

You missed one thing: entire design which was made by SGR

Yes you are right. Facts.

[󠀡󠀡 󠀡󠀡 󠀡󠀡ErL]

I have 1600 hours of gameplay and my Stronghold isn't even level 70 yet.. with 6 alts at 1490.. stop doing drugs man..

My main also reached level 60 at Roster Level 150.. so the other player base who couldn't reached level 60 probably quit the game that's why the Completion for this achievement is so low.. If you think i reached level 60 slow its because i do not do dailies every day.. i only do rested cause doing dailies everyday is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mental.

[DIP CHIP]

As someone who has over 3000h in the game, you are very out of touch on the game.

Originally posted by author:

1) It's a game published by Amazon so the mass was expecting something great despite New World.

Most players that picked up the game did so cause it looked like something new and like the next WoW killer.

Originally posted by author:

2) Most of the people who bought the pass from bronze to platinum didn't know what the game was all about.

Most players that bought the founders packs did so to try the closed beta & the ones who enjoyed it a ton bought the more expensive versions of the pack. Then there are some that bought it for the 3 day head start.

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Originally posted by author:

1) Only 0.1% unlocked the achievement: Stronghold Development Plan. In practice, only 0.1% have built their entire personal island from which raw materials are obtained (instead of spending real money).

I have over 3k hours and I dont even have a maxed out stronghold or stronghold lvl of 70, this is simply cause you don't need a max stronghold to use the features present in it. By stronghold 45 you're pretty much set with everything you need. Anything higher is purely for fun. On top of that you can buy or harvest everything you need from the game world or gold auction house, you do not need to spend a single $ on anything stronghold related or life skill related. Lifeskills are also purely optional gameplay, as you can just buy the raw materials off the auction house from another player.

Originally posted by author:

2) Only 0.2% of the entire playerbase participated in the timer event of taking treasures from the seabed. The achievement is called: Treasure Chest Collector.

Sea content isnt great and is near impossible to do now due to everyone having done it early on in the games cycle. This is probably why its so hard to obtain this achievement, but you also need to take into account that sailing events are horizontal content and not mandatory requirements to progress in the game so its simply not done.

Originally posted by author:

3) Only 0.3% of the entire playerbase has reached level sixty.

In practice, only 0.3% of players understood how the game worked and reached the endgame.

For a brand new player it takes around 2-3months to reach lvl 60 if they arent actively farming for it. The second time you reach lvl 60 takes about 3-4 weeks. Because their is research in your stronghold that increases your xp acquisition and amounts for any lvl you have reached previously. You can also spend 600g to insta lvl 10-50 after doing it for the first time. If you want to manually do it, it takes around 12h to go from lvl 10-50.

This number is also heavily manipulated by all the bots that used to flood the game. Any player that is at endgame is between 55-60. Your player lvl is also less important than your gear. From lvl 55 - 60 you're look at about a 1% dmg boost per lvl, you can offset this by farming for more skill points in the game if you are lvling really slowly to 60.

Originally posted by author:

This data is public. Check if you want.
I myself see people making Valtan with the island at lv. 21.

You can clear valtan within 24h of making an account with a stronghold lvl of 1, as its purely based on your gearing and party setup. Your roster lvl, stronghold lvl, player lvl...etc do not mean anything. They are simply indicators to understand how many hours someone has put into the game.

Originally posted by author:

Normally when doing Valtan your island is at 70 (if you understand how the game works - you don't buy resources from the shop).

This is a made up statistic as it only takes a fresh player 3days - 1 week before reaching valtan which would realistically place you at stronghold 5-10 or lvl if you dont use it. To get to brelshaza normal mode raid the 2nd most recent raid, takes you around 3-4 weeks. Most new players will not be higher than lvl 55 or stronghold 30 by then.

Originally posted by author:

Also after some time the game becomes so simple that in three hours a day you can do everything you need to do with 6 alts.

Dailies will take around 4h on 6 characters, raids on 6 characters are based on how many fails you have so it can go from 18h a week to 100h+ on 6 characters. To play the game most efficiently you dont need more than 3 characters. The reason players play 6 is because this is the amount of characters that can earn you gold a week. It is also what the KR whales recommended people play in Na/Eu based on their KR experience, however, in the Na/Eu release we get so many free things that you simply dont need 6 characters and the game can be enjoyed with 1-3 characters.

Originally posted by author:

Basically 99% of people say how bad the endgame is without even reaching it.

The number one issue new players will have at endgame is being gatekept from it due to not having all the required collectables that increase your power because they are sped run to the latest content in such a short interval of time.

Also to specify you do not need to be at the endgame to enjoy the game, there is a ton of content that is still being run and is fully accessible, so long as you are T3 1370+, This should take you around 1 day to achieve if you use the powerpass and hyper express event. I would urge that you play the story from the start to end & go through T1/2 which are being consolidated into a single tier and shortened dramatically time wise on the august 16th update. This will greatly help you understand the games core mechanics and overall gameplay impression. At 1445ilvl with relic gear and lvl 5 gems all classes in the game reach their base lvl potential and are viable, this is also where the true endgame begins. This can also be reached within a week with a hyper express and powerpass event which is given to you for free around every 2 months at current.

Also as a side note going from T1-T3 manually without an event takes around 3days - 1 week on your first run and an average of 2-3 weeks on your second run. If you are an older player this can be done within 24h as the cost for this is between 5k-40k gold,which isnt even half of your weekly gold income.

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From what you write, it seems you don't even understand the basic game mechanics. Is this your first Korean mmorpg?
Do you play from the Korean version?
Look for a western mmorpg anyway or if you have a Diablo 4 license wait for 1.1.1. . Don't even bet on Blue Protocol.
I suggest you switch to stay away from RPGs and play when the Riot mmorpg comes out.

Originally posted by DIP CHIP:

As someone who has over 3000h in the game, you are very out of touch on the game.

I have over 3k hours and I dont even have a maxed out stronghold or stronghold lvl of 70, this is simply cause you don't need a max stronghold to use the features present in it. By stronghold 45 you're pretty much set with everything you need. Anything higher is purely for fun. On top of that you can buy or harvest everything you need from the game world or gold auction house, you do not need to spend a single $ on anything stronghold related or life skill related. Lifeskills are also purely optional gameplay, as you can just buy the raw materials off the auction house from another player.

Originally posted by author:

2) Only 0.2% of the entire playerbase participated in the timer event of taking treasures from the seabed. The achievement is called: Treasure Chest Collector.

Sea content isnt great and is near impossible to do now due to everyone having done it early on in the games cycle. This is probably why its so hard to obtain this achievement, but you also need to take into account that sailing events are horizontal content and not mandatory requirements to progress in the game so its simply not done.

[Hosenbund]

Originally posted by Quantum⎝⧹🦆⧸⎠Duck:

From what you write, it seems you don't even understand the basic game mechanics. Is this your first Korean mmorpg?
Do you play from the Korean version?
Look for a western mmorpg anyway or if you have a Diablo 4 license wait for 1.1.1. . Don't even bet on Blue Protocol.
I suggest you switch to stay away from RPGs and play when the Riot mmorpg comes out.

Originally posted by DIP CHIP:

As someone who has over 3000h in the game, you are very out of touch on the game.

I have over 3k hours and I dont even have a maxed out stronghold or stronghold lvl of 70, this is simply cause you don't need a max stronghold to use the features present in it. By stronghold 45 you're pretty much set with everything you need. Anything higher is purely for fun. On top of that you can buy or harvest everything you need from the game world or gold auction house, you do not need to spend a single $ on anything stronghold related or life skill related. Lifeskills are also purely optional gameplay, as you can just buy the raw materials off the auction house from another player.



Sea content isnt great and is near impossible to do now due to everyone having done it early on in the games cycle. This is probably why its so hard to obtain this achievement, but you also need to take into account that sailing events are horizontal content and not mandatory requirements to progress in the game so its simply not done.

what are you even talking? i start to get the feeling quantum duck is a paid shill

but what you are saying is so weird in general

it doesnt matter for the achievements if the only goal of bots is to make gold.. every player who ever started the game up goes into the achievement statistics. maybe its even everyone who owns the game. and im also not sure if banned accounts get removed from the achievement data.. but point is that achievement completion rate is lower than u would expect in every game because of that

Even in Full price title games on release the achievement rates for completing the tutorial are almost always far from 100%

for the rest.. DIP CHIP answered everything

[󠀡󠀡 󠀡󠀡 󠀡󠀡ErL]

Originally posted by Hosenbund:

Originally posted by Quantum⎝⧹🦆⧸⎠Duck:

From what you write, it seems you don't even understand the basic game mechanics. Is this your first Korean mmorpg?
Do you play from the Korean version?
Look for a western mmorpg anyway or if you have a Diablo 4 license wait for 1.1.1. . Don't even bet on Blue Protocol.
I suggest you switch to stay away from RPGs and play when the Riot mmorpg comes out.

what are you even talking? i start to get the feeling quantum duck is a paid shill

but what you are saying is so weird in general

it doesnt matter for the achievements if the only goal of bots is to make gold.. every player who ever started the game up goes into the achievement statistics. maybe its even everyone who owns the game. and im also not sure if banned accounts get removed from the achievement data.. but point is that achievement completion rate is lower than u would expect in every game because of that

Even in Full price title games on release the achievement rates for completing the tutorial are almost always far from 100%

for the rest.. DIP CHIP answered everything

I told you Quantum Duck is high on drugs..

he quoted dip chip and made 0 sense.

[Grimmz]

i don't get what the stronghold level has to do with anything.

mine is lv 20 something cos i don't like doing anything in there, i just don't enjoy that bit of content. also i only play one character.

and btw i'm long past valtan, i'm currently running brel g5-g6

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Originally posted by Grimmz:

i don't get what the stronghold level has to do with anything.

mine is lv 20 something cos i don't like doing anything in there, i just don't enjoy that bit of content. also i only play one character.

and btw i'm long past valtan, i'm currently running brel g5-g6

Then definitely:

1) You got carried away since the beginning of the game by hardcore or P2W players and now you are in a position to make enough gold every week.

2) You are a player who makes heavy use of Mari's Secret Shop and the market and you spend money not only on skins but also on raw materials.

[Grimmz]

Originally posted by Quantum⎝⧹🦆⧸⎠Duck:

Originally posted by Grimmz:

i don't get what the stronghold level has to do with anything.

mine is lv 20 something cos i don't like doing anything in there, i just don't enjoy that bit of content. also i only play one character.

and btw i'm long past valtan, i'm currently running brel g5-g6

Then definitely:

1) You got carried away since the beginning of the game by hardcore or PW2 players and now you are in a position to make enough gold every week.

2) You are a player who makes heavy use of Mari's Secret Shop and the market and you spend money not only on skins but also on raw materials.

3) i just play 1-2 hours every day. do the daily content unlocks and raids once a week obviously. i just take my time in everything, i don't have that artificial rush that some players have that they need to be somewhere quick. i play it for fun, not to compete.

and yeah i do buy skins sometimes but very rarely cos i despise casual outfits which are the majority of what they push out. i'm a fashion souls enjoyer, i like full body armors.

i also tried bdo and didn't like it cos the combat was downgrade from LA. it felt like as clunky as SWTOR.. the games just so old just like GW2. like i get it, the systems and mechanics are cool and all but when the overall feel is 'scuffed' i don't really feel like continuing.

edit: if only LA had the gameplay loop and systems that BDO has, it might just be the perfect game. but if we can't have both.. then we just go with what we like.

also the Riot mmo doesn't interest me at all cos its gona have bunch of league characters and lore in it. i absolutely hate anything related to LoL.

[-Dare Devil/x/]

-Every massive F2P game will have similar statistics when looking at achievement numbers... This is how achievements on Steam work...

-Lost Ark definitely has its flaws, but I don't know why you guys use faulty bases for arguments that are easily countered.

[Jason Wang Dang ✅]

Half the playerbase were bots anyways. I suspect it was probably 75% bots though. Many casual quit after Agros.