why is chaos dungeon so easy

[AkerKartal]

It doesn't ask for any skills, the creatures die in one hit. It can be passed by throwing random skills. What's the situation in the 1400s?

[Hedning]

It's always going to be easy. It is not meant to be played. It's the alternative to paying real money that free to plays can use to progress faster. They made it bad on purpose so that you will pay to skip it.

I never play it. I'll accept progressing slower. I think it is more time efficient to take 1h of overtime if your place of employment allows it and use that money to pay for the game than to spend the time doing chaos dungeons.

[AkerKartal]

So besides dungeons, are raids fun and what other content is there?

[D0DECA]

Originally posted by Hedning:

It's always going to be easy. It is not meant to be played. It's the alternative to paying real money that free to plays can use to progress faster. They made it bad on purpose so that you will pay to skip it.

I never play it. I'll accept progressing slower. I think it is more time efficient to take 1h of overtime if your place of employment allows it and use that money to pay for the game than to spend the time doing chaos dungeons.

wow... that might be the most retraded take i've seen on here in a while. At this point I'm convinced that long term exposure to this game causes brain rot.

It's realy not my place to tell you what to do, Aker. But please, allow me to give an advice: Don't listen to people that claim spending to skip content is a good idea. Some of the denizens here are just in too deep.

[Hedning]

Originally posted by AkerKartal:

So besides dungeons, are raids fun and what other content is there?

Yes, the raids are the main draw and they are very well made in my opinion.

You can also do island, sailing coop, field bosses and chaos gates, all easy content but much more varied and fun.

[Hedning]

Originally posted by D0DECA:

wow... that might be the most R rated take i've seen on here in a while.

I don't know what you mean by this, but what I said is just facts.

Game needs to make money somehow and they cannot have players pay for power if you can just easily get it by playing and having fun. If getting the power for free was easy and fun then very few would pay and the game would fail or they would have to find another monetization model.

[Hosenbund]

Originally posted by Hedning:

Originally posted by D0DECA:

wow... that might be the most R rated take i've seen on here in a while.

I don't know what you mean by this, but what I said is just facts.

Game needs to make money somehow and they cannot have players pay for power if you can just easily get it by playing and having fun. If getting the power for free was easy and fun then very few would pay and the game would fail or they would have to find another monetization model.

its not a good approach at all though..chaos dungeons are probably the most important piece of content in the game for ur progression.. and even p2w players should do it.. you need about 20 million silver to get a character from 1415 to 1490 only

where do you get your silver?
im not 100% sure about the numbers but i think a single chaos dungeon with rested bonus gives about 150k silver on 1415
then you also drop tickets in chaos dungeons.. cube is another 400k silver when u do it with 3 tickets, also u get protection upgrade mats from cube and potentially a good engraving book
or you get boss rush tickets... its a VERY BIG amount of leapstones and gems there.. also u get gems from chaos dungeons
in addition you also get tripods from chaos dungeons.. u would need to buy them with gold AND pheons if you dont do chaos dungeons.. getting your tripods up literally doubles your damage output
also you get shards from chaos dungeons

you can ignore unas tasks or guardian raids if u really dont feel like doing them.. but you cant ignore chaos dungeons, no matter if you p2w or not

chaos dungeons are the most important content in the game, its not like u progress slower by not doing them.. you completely destroy your own game

edit: you also get a similar amount of leapstones in your chaos dungeons.. compared to guardian raids i mean.. only difference is that those are bound

[AkerKartal]

Originally posted by Hosenbund:

Originally posted by Hedning:

I don't know what you mean by this, but what I said is just facts.

Game needs to make money somehow and they cannot have players pay for power if you can just easily get it by playing and having fun. If getting the power for free was easy and fun then very few would pay and the game would fail or they would have to find another monetization model.

its not a good approach at all though..chaos dungeons are probably the most important piece of content in the game for ur progression.. and even p2w players should do it.. you need about 20 million silver to get a character from 1415 to 1490 only

where do you get your silver?
im not 100% sure about the numbers but i think a single chaos dungeon with rested bonus gives about 150k silver on 1415
then you also drop tickets in chaos dungeons.. cube is another 400k silver when u do it with 3 tickets, also u get protection upgrade mats from cube and potentially a good engraving book
or you get boss rush tickets... its a VERY BIG amount of leapstones and gems there.. also u get gems from chaos dungeons
in addition you also get tripods from chaos dungeons.. u would need to buy them with gold AND pheons if you dont do chaos dungeons.. getting your tripods up literally doubles your damage output
also you get shards from chaos dungeons

you can ignore unas tasks or guardian raids if u really dont feel like doing them.. but you cant ignore chaos dungeons, no matter if you p2w or not

chaos dungeons are the most important content in the game, its not like u progress slower by not doing them.. you completely destroy your own game

That's what I'm talking about. It seems ridiculous that chaos dungeons, which are so important in the game, are so simple. It would be more fun if they added a little challenge and automatically kicked us out of the dungeon when we were careless or died.

[Hosenbund]

Originally posted by AkerKartal:

Originally posted by Hosenbund:

its not a good approach at all though..chaos dungeons are probably the most important piece of content in the game for ur progression.. and even p2w players should do it.. you need about 20 million silver to get a character from 1415 to 1490 only

where do you get your silver?
im not 100% sure about the numbers but i think a single chaos dungeon with rested bonus gives about 150k silver on 1415
then you also drop tickets in chaos dungeons.. cube is another 400k silver when u do it with 3 tickets, also u get protection upgrade mats from cube and potentially a good engraving book
or you get boss rush tickets... its a VERY BIG amount of leapstones and gems there.. also u get gems from chaos dungeons
in addition you also get tripods from chaos dungeons.. u would need to buy them with gold AND pheons if you dont do chaos dungeons.. getting your tripods up literally doubles your damage output
also you get shards from chaos dungeons

you can ignore unas tasks or guardian raids if u really dont feel like doing them.. but you cant ignore chaos dungeons, no matter if you p2w or not

chaos dungeons are the most important content in the game, its not like u progress slower by not doing them.. you completely destroy your own game

That's what I'm talking about. It seems ridiculous that chaos dungeons, which are so important in the game, are so simple. It would be more fun if they added a little challenge and automatically kicked us out of the dungeon when we were careless or died.

its good that they are so simple..because its a daily grind ( or every 3 days with rested bonus which i do)
i just always watch youtube videos or a show or movie on my 2nd screen when i do my chaos dungeons

raiding will be insanely challening when you reach legion raids
when you do that grind on 6 characters then sometimes its nice to just be able to turn your brain off and grind chaos dungeons for progress
its still a chore though.. like you could spend that time actually playing real content or another game or doing something in real life, thats true
but it is what it is

[Hosenbund]

also every mmo has very simple content.. chaos dungeons are kinda mandatory to progress.. and the majority of mmo players are not really that good.. thats why the story/campaign and the mandatory content are always braindead easy in mmo games

you dont have that much mmo experience right? because then you would probably know how bad the majority of the mmo playerbase is

[Dezra]

i think making chaos dungeons harder than they already are will make people more tired and drained doing it multiple times a day every week on so many characters just to spend all the materials and get barely any progress in the honing system unless they get lucky. its just a quick dopamine rush for materials until you can do your weekly raids.

[Seyz]

Originally posted by Hedning:

It's always going to be easy. It is not meant to be played. It's the alternative to paying real money that free to plays can use to progress faster. They made it bad on purpose so that you will pay to skip it.

I never play it. I'll accept progressing slower. I think it is more time efficient to take 1h of overtime if your place of employment allows it and use that money to pay for the game than to spend the time doing chaos dungeons.

thats a complete garbage take.
chaos dungeon (with rested) is one of the most time efficient activities in this game.
no time to raid? no problem, at least do chaos dungeons.

[Hedning]

Originally posted by Sith Lord Seyz:

thats a complete garbage take.
chaos dungeon (with rested) is one of the most time efficient activities in this game.
no time to raid? no problem, at least do chaos dungeons.

I didn't say it wasn't time efficient compared to other in-game activities. I said it was time inefficient compared to working a real job and using your overtime pay to buy the things you need in the game.

However if you have no time to raid and are still doing chaos dungeons then why are you doing chaos dungeons? What's the purpose? If you want a text to display 1570 just read this:
1570
I just saved you countless hours of pointless work.

[OakYi]

just do it every 3th day double rested so you efficently get rewards of 4 entries for 6min
and besides the upgrade materials, the random drops can be pretty pricey and its the only way for you to get tripods besides buying them on the auctionhouse. so no, depending on rng jesus those 6min for running 2xchaos can be definetly worth your time compared with an average job and gold buy-in. f.e. if you drop something worth 50k+ gold which is absolutly possible. thats especially the case on new content update with new tier of accessories or materials or something new like the bracelets 1490+ on coming wednesday. why u think everyones resting their chaos dungeons now

[Novuhz]

Originally posted by Hedning:

It's always going to be easy. It is not meant to be played. It's the alternative to paying real money that free to plays can use to progress faster. They made it bad on purpose so that you will pay to skip it.

I never play it. I'll accept progressing slower. I think it is more time efficient to take 1h of overtime if your place of employment allows it and use that money to pay for the game than to spend the time doing chaos dungeons.

That's a lot of silver and honor shards you are missing out for not doing at least CD in rested.

Plus the gold you get from selling lvl 5 meta tripods. Sometimes missing out on gold portals too. Missing out on Boss Rush and Cube tickets. Relic accessoris that could sell for +100k gold. I think I probably made by now more than 300k gold from relic accessory drops from CD's.

But hey everyone plays how they want.

[Hedning]

Originally posted by OakYi:

just do it every 3th day double rested so you efficently get rewards of 4 entries for 6min

What is double rested 4x rewards? I'm fairly sure that doesn't exist. You get double rewards for being rested. That's it.

Originally posted by OakYi:

if you drop something worth 50k+ gold

Average that over every time you're not getting the jackpot and there won't be hardly any gold left. I'm not going to gamble away my life hoping to win a virtual item to sell for virtual gold.