Tips for getting 4x3 engraving?

[AloofHermit37]

3x3 was simple cause i just got the argos gear with my class engraving on all accessories, then my equipped engravings and stone got me those two engravings to lvl 3

im confused on how to get a 4th engraving to lvl 3

is it necessary to buy legendary books to get my 4th engraving? should i put my class engraving as one of my equipped engravings since none of the legion raid gear seem to drop with class accessories or rarley they do?

[Novuhz]

Yes at start it's wise to go equip class engraving, hell you can even equip 2 +9 ones just to get ur class engraving to lvl 3 and then the rest from relic accessories and stone and that's 4x3.

Class relic accessories with another good engraving are very expensive as the drop rate of them to come with the right combat stat and engraving is extremely rare.

How I did with my alts was legendary rings 3+3 (with class), equip one class engraving +9. The rest is stone and relic accessories

[PandaSav]

Anything with 5-3 values on a jewellery for your meta builds are expensive(and having 2 same class engravings on both slots is a waste), so better for 1 class engraving on your slot and go with at least 2 legendary jewellery to get +15. Then rest fill it with legendary or relic to get the 4*3 easily. Finally you might need a mandatory Relic Ability stone with 7-6 minimum(or may be even 6-6, not quite sure). You can also prepare earlier with the App/site.

[Dragonmaster]

Originally posted by ckrack:

Anything with 5-3 values on a jewellery for your meta builds are expensive(and having 2 same class engravings on both slots is a waste), so better for 1 class engraving on your slot and go with at least 2 legendary jewellery to get +15. Then rest fill it with legendary or relic to get the 4*3 easily. Finally you might need a mandatory Relic Ability stone with 7-6 minimum(or may be even 6-6, not quite sure). You can also prepare earlier with the App/site.

4x3 can be done with just legendary acc and not relics. With Legendary you need 3/3 everything with a 6/6 stone. 6/6 stones using the relic stones are pretty easy to get.
Relic acc can augment it and make it easier to get. Usually for my alts getting 4x3 builds, I mix some relics with legendary gear for the class ones since class legendaries don't generally cost "that much" to get a 3/3 one.

Def Shop around a bit before bying anything as some engraving combos generally run very cheap. I just build another alt out yesterday to 4x3+1x2 and didn't spend but maybe 10-15k since there were several 5/3 items that were <1000g for even 70+ quality.

For a 4x3, most likely 1 of your 2 engravings will HAVE to be your class so you will need 2 +3s for it. Rings are generally your best best for these as rings quality doesn't matter as much and they run a bit cheaper. You can get legendary rings as the stat difference is minor
For the 2 earrings, find your cheapest 5/3 option and get 2 of the same.

This should get you
15 in Class (with +9 from book)
10 in Engraving 2 (2 +5s)
6 in Engraving 3 (2 +3s)

Your neck should also be able to find the same 5/3 as the earrings (to make it real simple) and shouldn't be expensive either if the earrings were not. This would get you 15/15/9
Then just get a 6/6 stone of Engraving 3 and Engraving 4 and equip the other +9 and theres your 4x3 build that should be extremely cheap. The rings can either be legendary 3/x or relic 3/x rings since if its JUST your class +3 it should be cheap if its paired with a not top engraving. You could get relic class 3/5x with the 5's being of a B Tier engraving and could still be very cheap which will get you easinly a 4x3 + 1x2 build.

This is how I've geared ALL of my alts out to 4x3 with wither a 1x1 or 1x2 kicker for extremely cheap and has the adjustability to transition to a 5x3 with only a few replacements instead of everything in the future if I choose.

[PandaSav]

Originally posted by Dragonmaster:

Originally posted by ckrack:

Anything with 5-3 values on a jewellery for your meta builds are expensive(and having 2 same class engravings on both slots is a waste), so better for 1 class engraving on your slot and go with at least 2 legendary jewellery to get +15. Then rest fill it with legendary or relic to get the 4*3 easily. Finally you might need a mandatory Relic Ability stone with 7-6 minimum(or may be even 6-6, not quite sure). You can also prepare earlier with the App/site.

4x3 can be done with just legendary acc and not relics. With Legendary you need 3/3 everything with a 6/6 stone. 6/6 stones using the relic stones are pretty easy to get.
Relic acc can augment it and make it easier to get. Usually for my alts getting 4x3 builds, I mix some relics with legendary gear for the class ones since class legendaries don't generally cost "that much" to get a 3/3 one.

Def Shop around a bit before bying anything as some engraving combos generally run very cheap. I just build another alt out yesterday to 4x3+1x2 and didn't spend but maybe 10-15k since there were several 5/3 items that were <1000g for even 70+ quality.

For a 4x3, most likely 1 of your 2 engravings will HAVE to be your class so you will need 2 +3s for it. Rings are generally your best best for these as rings quality doesn't matter as much and they run a bit cheaper. You can get legendary rings as the stat difference is minor
For the 2 earrings, find your cheapest 5/3 option and get 2 of the same.

This should get you
15 in Class (with +9 from book)
10 in Engraving 2 (2 +5s)
6 in Engraving 3 (2 +3s)

Your neck should also be able to find the same 5/3 as the earrings (to make it real simple) and shouldn't be expensive either if the earrings were not. This would get you 15/15/9
Then just get a 6/6 stone of Engraving 3 and Engraving 4 and equip the other +9 and theres your 4x3 build that should be extremely cheap. The rings can either be legendary 3/x or relic 3/x rings since if its JUST your class +3 it should be cheap if its paired with a not top engraving. You could get relic class 3/5x with the 5's being of a B Tier engraving and could still be very cheap which will get you easinly a 4x3 + 1x2 build.

This is how I've geared ALL of my alts out to 4x3 with wither a 1x1 or 1x2 kicker for extremely cheap and has the adjustability to transition to a 5x3 with only a few replacements instead of everything in the future if I choose.

yeah this is what I pretty much do and its tolerable, but there are some crack heads out there that want all relic for normal legion raids, which is laughable.

[Dragonmaster]

Originally posted by ckrack:

Originally posted by Dragonmaster:

4x3 can be done with just legendary acc and not relics. With Legendary you need 3/3 everything with a 6/6 stone. 6/6 stones using the relic stones are pretty easy to get.
Relic acc can augment it and make it easier to get. Usually for my alts getting 4x3 builds, I mix some relics with legendary gear for the class ones since class legendaries don't generally cost "that much" to get a 3/3 one.

Def Shop around a bit before bying anything as some engraving combos generally run very cheap. I just build another alt out yesterday to 4x3+1x2 and didn't spend but maybe 10-15k since there were several 5/3 items that were <1000g for even 70+ quality.

For a 4x3, most likely 1 of your 2 engravings will HAVE to be your class so you will need 2 +3s for it. Rings are generally your best best for these as rings quality doesn't matter as much and they run a bit cheaper. You can get legendary rings as the stat difference is minor
For the 2 earrings, find your cheapest 5/3 option and get 2 of the same.

This should get you
15 in Class (with +9 from book)
10 in Engraving 2 (2 +5s)
6 in Engraving 3 (2 +3s)

Your neck should also be able to find the same 5/3 as the earrings (to make it real simple) and shouldn't be expensive either if the earrings were not. This would get you 15/15/9
Then just get a 6/6 stone of Engraving 3 and Engraving 4 and equip the other +9 and theres your 4x3 build that should be extremely cheap. The rings can either be legendary 3/x or relic 3/x rings since if its JUST your class +3 it should be cheap if its paired with a not top engraving. You could get relic class 3/5x with the 5's being of a B Tier engraving and could still be very cheap which will get you easinly a 4x3 + 1x2 build.

This is how I've geared ALL of my alts out to 4x3 with wither a 1x1 or 1x2 kicker for extremely cheap and has the adjustability to transition to a 5x3 with only a few replacements instead of everything in the future if I choose.

yeah this is what I pretty much do and its tolerable, but there are some crack heads out there that want all relic for normal legion raids, which is laughable.

Having a higher gear level helps mitigate it a bit. Some of my alts for a while where only running normal mode Valtan/Vyaks even when Im like 1450/1460. Mainly cause I wasn't in a rush for relic items and the 1200g difference isn't much either. I found that for my 1445 alts, 4x3 pretty each got into any normal valtan easily (I think one was a 3x3 + 1x2 at one point too) and really a guild solves all of it since they will take your alts no problem then if you've established yourself. All my raids only really take about 6 hours to clear it all between my whole roster now with the guild (3 clowns, 6 HM Vyakas, 6 HM valtan).

[Purpleganja]

I like trying to find the cheapest, but potentially most expensive piece first (necklace mostly) and build around it with the 4x3+1 magic recipe of double +9 class books and relic accessories.
If you dont plan on getting legendary books soon, you can benefit from a huge price reduction now by going this way.

I try to cut the stone before buying anything else because getting more than +5 often means you can get another piece at +4 which is often significantly cheaper too (necklace if possible)
Stonecutting will vary wildly in results. Cutting a 5/5/ with low negative is supposed to be easy, but many of my chars had to cut over 6 stones to get one while 2 others have cut 7/7/3 first try without even needing it.

[Detergent]

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This is what I do for a super cheap budget 4x3 +1.
My alts usually stay like this until I cut a really good stone for them. Then I buy legendary class engraving books for them. Then I start working on all the rest for 5x3.

Stone:
Start with the stone. All you need is a 5/5 stone so you will almost always cut that first try and thats a big deal because stones can quickly become the most expensive item in your build if you aim too high due to pheon costs.
Getting anything more then 5/5 just means you can save gold on accessories. Example: 6/6 stone means you can use +4/+3 accessory and thats a lot cheaper then +5/+3.

Class Engraving:
Class engraving being maxed out from just double +9 books also saves you a ton of money. Relic accessories with class engravings are usually far more expensive then all the rest.

Amulet:
Amulet really only needs to be a +3. This is pretty big because that means you can focus on getting a amulet with 100 quality. If you happen to find one with 100 quality and +5 to something useful, all the better.

Downside to starting with a budget 4x3 means you waste 134 pheons on something that is temporary (Not 5x3).
Spend a little extra on earrings, making sure they are very high quality and +5/+3/-1. It will save you money in the long run because you will use them in your 5x3 later on. All the rest of the items get replaced.

[76561198073985451]

Buy stuff from the AH , equip it done you're 4x3 .

[Xstrain]

Pray to GOD for good luck for the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stones

[TormDK]

6/6 stone, double class engravings and some solid 5/3 relic accessories is likely the cheapest approach.