Bots? Who cares?!

[sen]

why tons of ppl complain about bots? they dont disturb your gameplay....
its funny to see, bot trains in areas where u farm things like ore or wood ... i like this trains... so u did not feel lonly

[LaskaMan]

Most of those that defend bots are using them. Whether for profit or to cheat.

[Dragonmaster]

LaskaMan님이 먼저 게시:

Most of those that defend bots are using them. Whether for profit or to cheat.

or most are veteran MMO gamers who have been around for years and have learned to just live with bots. They have been a part of online gaming for the DECADES now. They are the cockroaches of the internet and you cannot kill them without really restricting your normal player base can do (even then bots find loopholes).

Do bots suck and need to die in a fire, sure. But I've been playing long enough to just deal with them and see them just as an everday part of MMO life. And really bots denote an ACTIVE game as they wouldn't bother botting a game that no one plays.

And frankly when you get out of the Newbie VERN area, bots become WAY less common. Stop only judging it by what is essentially the tutorial area. Rhoendel and beyond has far less bot trains.

[sen]

maybe most people don't care what bots do, because bots don't do what interferes with your gameplay. no one forces anyone to buy gold, the vast majority don't mind bot trains wandering the landscape. the vast majority even benefit from the low material prices in the auction house. it's quite simple, ignore... look at it, smile and move on.

[Tzunny]

Exactly. What bots, what are those?! Those that make 90% of the game population?! Are just NPC that boost the market & rmt's, nothing else.... and this comes from the OP which is playing using a VPN from Zimbabwe ?! ROFL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYjlEnjuWS8&ab_channel=Tzunny

[Johannsen23(ALDI-Gaming)]

There farming my adventure tome, there make it sheeper for me

[sadegmike]

sen님이 먼저 게시:

why tons of ppl complain about bots? they dont disturb your gameplay....
its funny to see, bot trains in areas where u farm things like ore or wood ... i like this trains... so u did not feel lonly

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you MF so they don't disturb our gameplay ?
1- game crash because of them
2- in raids bots don't follow mechs which's make's it hard to play as a team because finding group in t2 t1 raids is almost impossible
3- Bots taking control of Action house ex:
mats before bots was mid price F2P people can make gold with mats
now bots farming mats and selling them for 1 gold and that's because cheaters who use bots wont get thro all the grinding like us pure gamer's
and 4- you MF 100% bot user who now can't use them because amazon today did something to prevent cheaters from using bots

[sadegmike]

Dragonmaster님이 먼저 게시:

LaskaMan님이 먼저 게시:

Most of those that defend bots are using them. Whether for profit or to cheat.

or most are veteran MMO gamers who have been around for years and have learned to just live with bots. They have been a part of online gaming for the DECADES now. They are the cockroaches of the internet and you cannot kill them without really restricting your normal player base can do (even then bots find loopholes).

Do bots suck and need to die in a fire, sure. But I've been playing long enough to just deal with them and see them just as an everday part of MMO life. And really bots denote an ACTIVE game as they wouldn't bother botting a game that no one plays.

And frankly when you get out of the Newbie VERN area, bots become WAY less common. Stop only judging it by what is essentially the tutorial area. Rhoendel and beyond has far less bot trains.

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are you telling me that bots dont effect action house that help players to get gold to upgrade gear ?

[bidulless]

sadegmike님이 먼저 게시:

Dragonmaster님이 먼저 게시:

or most are veteran MMO gamers who have been around for years and have learned to just live with bots. They have been a part of online gaming for the DECADES now. They are the cockroaches of the internet and you cannot kill them without really restricting your normal player base can do (even then bots find loopholes).

Do bots suck and need to die in a fire, sure. But I've been playing long enough to just deal with them and see them just as an everday part of MMO life. And really bots denote an ACTIVE game as they wouldn't bother botting a game that no one plays.

And frankly when you get out of the Newbie VERN area, bots become WAY less common. Stop only judging it by what is essentially the tutorial area. Rhoendel and beyond has far less bot trains.

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are you telling me that bots dont effect action house that help players to get gold to upgrade gear ?

hello
you do not really need ah for gold in order to upgrade gear ... never sold anything outside item for adventure book and i have 12k gold ...

[蔡徐坤]

sen님이 먼저 게시:

maybe most people don't care what bots do, because bots don't do what interferes with your gameplay. no one forces anyone to buy gold, the vast majority don't mind bot trains wandering the landscape. the vast majority even benefit from the low material prices in the auction house. it's quite simple, ignore... look at it, smile and move on.

He made me stand in line for an hour every day

[Dragonmaster]

sadegmike님이 먼저 게시:

Dragonmaster님이 먼저 게시:

or most are veteran MMO gamers who have been around for years and have learned to just live with bots. They have been a part of online gaming for the DECADES now. They are the cockroaches of the internet and you cannot kill them without really restricting your normal player base can do (even then bots find loopholes).

Do bots suck and need to die in a fire, sure. But I've been playing long enough to just deal with them and see them just as an everday part of MMO life. And really bots denote an ACTIVE game as they wouldn't bother botting a game that no one plays.

And frankly when you get out of the Newbie VERN area, bots become WAY less common. Stop only judging it by what is essentially the tutorial area. Rhoendel and beyond has far less bot trains.

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are you telling me that bots dont effect action house that help players to get gold to upgrade gear ?

Bots have been apart of MMO economies forever. The market is usually balanced out around the bots to still be stable. Theres always the initial RUSH of overpriced items when new stuff comes out but they eventually settle to the balanced price and stay there as supply meets demand.

And Up until 1370+, you dont need the AH to get gold to upgrade gear. Just like honing costs are Static, so are some of the free income sources. T3 1302-1370 honing costs can be covered just from the weekly Una Gold, 2 Gold Adventure Islands, AD's alone (you get roughly 5k gold a week with ZERO outside sources/influences) which combined with the total amount you can earn in the honing items a week is enough to cover the number of hones you can do per week.

[sadegmike]

bidulless님이 먼저 게시:

sadegmike님이 먼저 게시:

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are you telling me that bots dont effect action house that help players to get gold to upgrade gear ?

hello
you do not really need ah for gold in order to upgrade gear ... never sold anything outside item for adventure book and i have 12k gold ...

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you need action house to get gold to upgrade gear
gear's upgrade cost over 1k gold at 1415 and up and imagine most honing fails

[sadegmike]

Dragonmaster님이 먼저 게시:

sadegmike님이 먼저 게시:

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are you telling me that bots dont effect action house that help players to get gold to upgrade gear ?

Bots have been apart of MMO economies forever. The market is usually balanced out around the bots to still be stable. Theres always the initial RUSH of overpriced items when new stuff comes out but they eventually settle to the balanced price and stay there as supply meets demand.

And Up until 1370+, you dont need the AH to get gold to upgrade gear. Just like honing costs are Static, so are some of the free income sources. T3 1302-1370 honing costs can be covered just from the weekly Una Gold, 2 Gold Adventure Islands, AD's alone (you get roughly 5k gold a week with ZERO outside sources/influences) which combined with the total amount you can earn in the honing items a week is enough to cover the number of hones you can do per week.

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most of the players now in 1380+++ beside wheal's F2P are struggling to get gold now and save the mats at the same time

[Dragonmaster]

sadegmike님이 먼저 게시:

bidulless님이 먼저 게시:

hello
you do not really need ah for gold in order to upgrade gear ... never sold anything outside item for adventure book and i have 12k gold ...

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you need action house to get gold to upgrade gear
gear's upgrade cost over 1k gold at 1415 and up and imagine most honing fails

Honing gold cost at 1415 is 330 for weapons and 180 for armor. A worse case Pitty upgrade for weapons at 1415 is 4980 gold over 15 hones but you wont have the 15,000 destruction crystals/300 GHL at the same time either over the course of a week.
For armor at 1415 a pity upgrade costs only 2700 gold over 15 hones and you would need 8,880 guardian crystals/180 GHL.

SO again 5k gold a week covers honing costs up to 1415 with materials that you can only FARM on a per week basis.

[Dragonmaster]

sadegmike님이 먼저 게시:

Dragonmaster님이 먼저 게시:

Bots have been apart of MMO economies forever. The market is usually balanced out around the bots to still be stable. Theres always the initial RUSH of overpriced items when new stuff comes out but they eventually settle to the balanced price and stay there as supply meets demand.

And Up until 1370+, you dont need the AH to get gold to upgrade gear. Just like honing costs are Static, so are some of the free income sources. T3 1302-1370 honing costs can be covered just from the weekly Una Gold, 2 Gold Adventure Islands, AD's alone (you get roughly 5k gold a week with ZERO outside sources/influences) which combined with the total amount you can earn in the honing items a week is enough to cover the number of hones you can do per week.

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most of the players now in 1380+++ beside wheal's F2P are struggling to get gold now and save the mats at the same time

I have had ZERO issue getting gold at the 1415 level from selling things and my gold has only gone up. Theres plenty of items to sell to make gold.

[sadegmike]

Dragonmaster님이 먼저 게시:

sadegmike님이 먼저 게시:

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most of the players now in 1380+++ beside wheal's F2P are struggling to get gold now and save the mats at the same time

I have had ZERO issue getting gold at the 1415 level from selling things and my gold has only gone up. Theres plenty of items to sell to make gold.

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it's clearly you are defending bots
because there's no way you can get over 50k gold without selling in action house
not just mats even life skills trade gone down