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Paladin Healing Question
Despite playing since the head start launch, finally met my first toxic player on my Paladin alt during a T2 raid (Levanos), of all things. They were a Sorc that died pretty early into the fight after not leaving the camp for a solid 20+ seconds. Didn't even revive instantly and went back to the camp despite us being across the entire map, wasting even more time.

That aside, after their first death they made comments about me not healing them. In a game with no dedicated healers that sneezes potions at us all day from events, but I digress. Being an alt, I'm still slowly learning it as I haven't been doing dailies on it frequently. As far as I can tell, I have Holy Protection that heals (with an increased cooldown) and Holy Aura with Blessed Aura engraving (which requires Piety) that I unfortunately only have 9 points in for the 2%/2.5sec because there's no reason for me to go hard on T2 gear when T3 is easy to reach, so no Expert engraving accessories this early either.

I know this player was saying this to cover their own poor performance, but what exactly did they expect from me...? Knowing the above, am I missing something to improve healing efficiency slightly more in Tier 2? I opened the fight pretty early with Alithane's Judgement because the Sorc dropped down to about 30% health incredibly fast. Since I filled up on Piety from it, I dropped Holy Aura and then... well, I was tapped out for a while because I had to build it up naturally from the fight. Awakening is at level 2 if that matters, so I try dropping it immediately off cooldown after the initial use assuming bosses aren't staggered.

Toxic player aside, want to make sure I'm not missing something on Paladin in Tier 2 since it's more fun than my T3 Bard and I might swap mains until Artist is added. I know I could do crazy stuff like use my own Awakening Potion for clutch moments, but... it was Levanos. I didn't even keep it on my battle item bar.
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kasadina 2022年4月30日 19時34分 
You did nothing wrong, we supposed to be support meaning we only help to mitigate the dmg if some one fail and die because they take alot of dmg they are the issue, lost ark have no dedicated healers like any other mmorpg so our support is like 50% and the player skill is another 50%
最近の変更はkasadinaが行いました; 2022年4月30日 19時35分
Sounds like you did everything right and got the basic set up in place. Laugh it off and be proud!
postcon 2022年4月30日 19時40分 
dont take it personal. people cry more than wanting to coperate and help each other more. From memory the Pali is a defensive/offensive buffer more than a healer. You can heal to minimal. Your awaken skill also heals. I went all yellow skills for raid buffing and minimal healing.

The important part of the pali is to always create holy ground for players to be protected in or for them to stay in it. There are several yellow skills when cast they diminish boss damage. Other than that when your protection skill ends it has a heal effect but thats minimial and the player should top up if they try to avoid getting owned by the boss.

You will need to fine tune the yellow skills choosing the appropriate buffs/shields/holy area. Whilst raiding i always focus to cast my skills and create massive aoe protection areas where the tank and other melee classes can stand in. This will greatly help them. Depending on the boss type at times i have to cast the skills on the side of the boss to avoid their hits whilst creating wholy ground or protection zones for the tanks fighting at the front. it's very situational.

Areas of importance. I"m a caster and that requies swiftness to reduce cooldowns for you to cast more protection buffs at high cycles. I don't use any crit at all for raids. Secondly make sure your aoe range skills are increased so that holy ground and other protection skils cover the field more when cast for your allies to be protected in.

I don't have high end gear yet as i am still working on gems to help me out as well. Pali will use multiple armor sets for their situation. Primary forcus for me when raiding is to make sure my group gets buffed defensively and offensivley with protections running continously. You will need to balance out what skills to execute making sure protection buffs are always up on your mates. You don't want to execute everything asap and then not having any skills to cast to help you group. Time your sills well and keep them more synced so that protection buffs and what not are always ongoing as best as possible. Forget about doing damage unless you focuss a blue skill pali.
Phanir 2022年4月30日 20時55分 
Thanks for the responses. Seems I'm on the right track with Pally and that's more than enough for me. Didn't take their toxic rant to heart, but I always want to make sure I'm doing what I can as a support main in most games I play since my goal shouldn't be to disappoint anyone.

Will say I do have 3 Punish skills for stagger checks/countering that have been pretty darn useful so far with how matchmaking's been, so I'm not full Holy. Can't remember my current skill point cap (maybe 330-ish), but some Holy skills aren't insanely useful yet and seemed skippable temporarily until I work on more skill potions and/or levels.

As for stats, I'd like to go full Specialization followed by Swiftness, but it seems like the reverse should be priority while everyone continues learning and adapting to the game's content. None of my friends play, so I don't expect to get the coordination needed for the former build. :( I'll make that the side project for my dream build.

Thanks again. I'll keep doing me and invest hard once I hit 1370 again.
This game doesn't have a holy trinity

There's no dedicated healers or tanks

That being said, it has gunlancer which can pretend its a tank for a few seconds here and there and supports in bard/paladin

but they are to support, not to fix issues

Every player has pots to use and a spacebar dodge

if they die its due to that, nothing a paladin should be able to change (paladins cant change 100 and 0 fights, only make the 30-70% fights go smoother, if you eating everything the boss is putting down, nothing can save you)
最近の変更はtankanidisが行いました; 2022年4月30日 21時01分
Otez 2022年4月30日 21時08分 
Just ignore such players. They only dont want to use their Potions and think a Support have to heal them through every attack they eat. As a Support you can only heal so much. But you cant heal stupidity.
I once had an Igrexion T3 Guardian Raid, where some scrub Deathblade with Negative Power Engraving lvl 2, complained about my alt Pally with 3/3/3 that I have everything wrong including tripods, which I absolutely don't.

This idiot, refused to flare at the start, got hit by every mechanic, refused to drink a pot during the fight, and then Afks on the side talking trash, while the rest of us fight.

Noticing this jackass, rest of the party refused to give a free pass. Even though boss was almost dead, we told that idiot off and vote stopped/left.

Some morons complain about anything and everything, even though themselves are stupid with multiple negative engravings and suck in general. They are literally unable to be helped.

That being said, this was a one off situation that never happens usually, 99% of other Guardians I do, everyone usually gets along and loves to have my 3/3/3 Support Pally with them.

Don't let a one off bad encounter ruin your day, just move on to better parties and experiences.
最近の変更はCelestialが行いました; 2022年5月2日 5時28分
Just ignorant or bad players trying to make excuses for being bad. As a bard main I've had a few similar people in my groups. Bards/Pallys are not dedicated full time healers yet people think we are. Its funny too when in those same groups, I get mvp with 72% healing, 20+% party defense etc. Its just them being bad and taking all kinds of damage just to do "big dps"

Essentially just ignore them, they are few and far between and I know that these players wont get far into the game with that attitude and style. Having a Bard/Pally doesn't mean one can just simply ignore all mechanics. Its more we help heal the occasional oopsie for you to save pots for when you make a few multiple mistakes in a row.
paladin's dont heal we shield this made me laugh if you die it your own bloody fault for not using a potion all and never change for bad player's that just wana do dps and forget mechanics
MRV1N 2022年5月2日 5時48分 
paladins only heals at the end of the shield duration and with blessed aura,thats about it.
in t3 with good engravings pala is kinda busted.
Arci 2022年5月2日 5時51分 
In every game with role-based heroes (that includes healer) I've played ever, I always encountered some DPS complaing about healer, because everything is healer fault,... Staying in aoe => healers fault, falling of map => healers fault, failing objective => healers fault, low dmg => healers fault,... Just get used to it, ignore it and get over it, there will be more "pro" players you'll encounter
最近の変更はArciが行いました; 2022年5月2日 5時52分
You have other skills to help your team
I had 1 player, a few days ago in an Igrexion Raid, who claimed all 3 other players were bots, while he or she was the one playing the bot class aka berzerker.
Everyone should play by the rule "Don't rely on Supports to save you from your bad play". If you die, it's your own fault. Supports make the fights way easier, but they are not life savers or miracle workers. If you are bad enough that you die from slowly being chipped away cause you just stand still or you can't dodge hard hitting abilities, it's not the supports fault.

As a support, as long as you provide shields and some healing (meaning you don't run grudge and full blue skills on pala) you are good enough. Better supports know and anticipate hard hitting abilities and prevent the dmg by using shields at the correct time (this is very very hard since you have to know A LOT). Best supports do not only that, but also decent dps and manage their healing optimally (meaning awakening to get piety meter when you need it etc.) If you can do all these things, you are the support I want in every raid and I bow to you for being that godlike. I play paladin and I know how hard that is, compared to just rotating dps skills with a dps class (not saying that's entirely braindead easy, but you don't have that many things to keep track on unless you play smth like deathblade or some fisters that have to manage their resources like crazy).
最近の変更はRybosaurが行いました; 2022年5月2日 8時11分
Pew 2022年5月2日 10時08分 
dont worry, as a support main myself, you get those sort of people, mostly in t1 and t2 that come from mmo's where a support 's only abilities are to heal and shield, i dont think they realise that you also provide them with a dps buff, and that you cant save people that refuse to do the basic boss mechanics without popping our ults xD
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