Why use amazon as publisher?

[Brakier]

why not just publish the game on steam themself? why go so far and use a company like amazon?

[Rematin]

I agree, amazon are clowns and political fanatics. They just care about money and their political agenda, they dont care about players.

[Kova]

There are a few potential things that attributed to this.

Smilegate RPG didn't have the manpower / resources to publish the game themselves in the west (the director addressed this on a LOA conference last year if i remember correctly, or on the LOA MINI earlier this year).

By allowing AGS to publish the game for them in the west, it enabled them to strike a fine balance between utilising internal resources while also maintaining their own live service in Korea (much the same as RU and JP).

AGS has huge reach in the gaming communities, and one of the largest platforms (Twtich) can be used as an advertising machine) - You will likely see Prime Drops come sometime in the future. (this casts the BEST audience net) plus they can also advertise at AGS sponsored events like the Game Show and Awards Show this year.

So business wise, it was a solid investment to ensure that the western market had a strong advertising force. AGS also want to prove themselves in the gaming industry, so this title will NEED to be successful in order for them to maintain a presence in this division.

You might say "Well AGS hasn't had a success yet" - This is all the more reason for them to need to succeed here.

My last and final note here is that (this is my opinion) regardless of what others might think. AGS is still the best publisher for LOA in the west as most others are known to heavily monetize their games in favor of shareholders. AGS made some solid progress in the mitigation of p2w aspects, we have one of the most friendly monetization models of ALL LOA clients.

Furthermore, they own the server infrastructure which means the overheads for them as a publisher are significantly lower than if another publisher did it, which also enables them to invest more in the players as they don't have to deal with a server markup cost.

Atleast, these are my thoughts.

[ØGThor]

Originally posted by Rematin:

I agree, amazon are clowns and political fanatics. They just care about money and their political agenda, they dont care about players.

Already summarized it pretty much, let's see how long it lasts before, they delete your post or lock the thread lol

[Ephnen]

Honestly after seeing how New World's service has been running, I don't have high hopes. I'd play the KR version if I could. I'll still play it, but when I go to Korea next Spring, I'm going to have my cousin make me an account to play it here.

[Zhaeph]

Originally posted by Penwolf:

AGS has huge reach in the gaming communities, and one of the largest platforms (Twtich) can be used as an advertising machine) - You will likely see ONLY Prime Drops come in the future. (this casts the BEST audience net) plus they can also advertise at AGS sponsored events like the Game Show and Awards Show this year.

i fixed it for you

[AFC_HIGHBURY]

Originally posted by Penwolf:

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My last and final note here is that (this is my opinion) regardless of what others might think. AGS is still the best publisher for LOA in the west as most others are known to heavily monetize their games in favor of shareholders. AGS made some solid progress in the mitigation of p2w aspects, we have one of the most friendly monetization models of ALL LOA clients.

I agree with everything else you said except this . Untill release comes and we see full extent of cashshop and AH considering peons where needed for engraving books in beta it isn't the most friendly (this may have been a mistake though ). We still don't know how long it'll take to farm for the aura with gold ect (though it is a good move ). I wouldn't praise them just yet on cashshop as really nothing in beta pointed to monetization being better .

[Flarex444]

yeah, amazon is a dangerous pick, but you need to understand that they cant just "put the game on steam"

They need servers in nodes closer to the new regions, they need people working 24/7 for maintenance. They need translators, voice actors, etc.

They cant just say "hey, lets spend this much ammount of money and expand ourselves to literally the other half of the world." if that were their only option, we would never play lost ark.

Thats why they picked Mail.ru in Rusia

[Anathema]

The server connection was the only good thing I can report from the limited time I spent with the beta. That's of course only if the latency shown was real rather than faked. The incessant stuttering issue made it hard to get a feel for lag if any was present.

Everything else left a decidedly bad taste in my mouth.

[kritze]

i dont have any trust into AGS. They already shown us their "work" or the other Word "Westernization". Maybe New World owns now a solid playership but they messed up a lot until to get this point.

Now AGS beginns to do the same ♥♥♥♥ again with Lost Ark. Made Changes to the game no one wanted. There are other popular MMO's like for example Black Desert where only couple of game features were "Westernized". Tera Online was a bit censored to the Elin but most are vanilla.

AGS... really instead to simple "Add" presets they completely replaced the most. Changed Skin Tones of NPC that shines like covered in body oil.
Did you take a look at those Collectibles - the Cards?! The changes Skin Tones? Microsoft Paint skillz.

Actually AGS does not make a good job.

[Xeno]

Originally posted by kritze:

i dont have any trust into AGS. They already shown us their "work" or the other Word "Westernization". Maybe New World owns now a solid playership but they messed up a lot until to get this point.

Now AGS beginns to do the same ♥♥♥♥ again with Lost Ark. Made Changes to the game no one wanted. There are other popular MMO's like for example Black Desert where only couple of game features were "Westernized". Tera Online was a bit censored to the Elin but most are vanilla.

AGS... really instead to simple "Add" presets they completely replaced the most. Changed Skin Tones of NPC that shines like covered in body oil.
Did you take a look at those Collectibles - the Cards?! The changes Skin Tones? Microsoft Paint skillz.

Actually AGS does not make a good job.

https://steamcharts.com/app/1063730
New world still has a downwards trend.
Going from 900k players to 300k in under 3 weeks. Now sitting at 100k while slowly loosing more players.
A testament to the ♥♥♥♥ up of AGS.

Thankfully the game is made by smilegate and they give me the same vibes as FFIV devs.
Unfortunate they tood Amazon as a publisher.
Knowing however the alternativ publishers, its clear that they had the choice between pest and colera.
Self publishing takes a lot of work.
Each country in the EU has their own laws and its a nightmare for new companys to publish here in any reasonable ammount of time as they would have to open a branch office and get all the permits.

Now it all depends on the contract smilegate got with Amazon.
How much controll amazon got over the published content.
Considering the last changes they at least got some controll.

[UnhappyCLOWN]

Publisher's foot the bill. Obviously, if a company can invest enough in their product to publish it themselves, they would. But usually they can't, so publishers pay the bills and take a cut of the profits. They also get to make decisions to change the end product since they're paying for it. And more often then not, the publisher's decisions are all about making themselves money and they don't care if they hurt the product making changes or not.

[三Akiyama]

Originally posted by Xeno:

Originally posted by kritze:

i dont have any trust into AGS. They already shown us their "work" or the other Word "Westernization". Maybe New World owns now a solid playership but they messed up a lot until to get this point.

Now AGS beginns to do the same ♥♥♥♥ again with Lost Ark. Made Changes to the game no one wanted. There are other popular MMO's like for example Black Desert where only couple of game features were "Westernized". Tera Online was a bit censored to the Elin but most are vanilla.

AGS... really instead to simple "Add" presets they completely replaced the most. Changed Skin Tones of NPC that shines like covered in body oil.
Did you take a look at those Collectibles - the Cards?! The changes Skin Tones? Microsoft Paint skillz.

Actually AGS does not make a good job.

https://steamcharts.com/app/1063730
New world still has a downwards trend.
Going from 900k players to 300k in under 3 weeks. Now sitting at 100k while slowly loosing more players.
A testament to the ♥♥♥♥ up of AGS.

Thankfully the game is made by smilegate and they give me the same vibes as FFIV devs.
Unfortunate they tood Amazon as a publisher.
Knowing however the alternativ publishers, its clear that they had the choice between pest and colera.
Self publishing takes a lot of work.
Each country in the EU has their own laws and its a nightmare for new companys to publish here in any reasonable ammount of time as they would have to open a branch office and get all the permits.

Now it all depends on the contract smilegate got with Amazon.
How much controll amazon got over the published content.
Considering the last changes they at least got some controll.

New games having a lot of players because of hype then slowly moving down and stabilizing somewhere is just a common thing, 99.9% of (hyped) games do that.

[fox]

Because they are a business and not a bunch of basement dwelling 4 channers that care about politics.

[Muado 93]

Originally posted by fox:

Because they are a business and not a bunch of basement dwelling 4 channers that care about politics.

Amazon is clearly a business that cares about politics though, so.....

[Liyran]

Amazon can use its e-girl streaming platform to lure poor souls into purchasing their gimped version of the game by handing out free keys to "content creators" to advertise for them. That's why they chose Amazon.