If you want a DPS meter, go play WoW or a diff game.

[nyxjeanz ♡]

^ Don't need anymore elitist and egotistic people on this game. Learn the mechanics, DPS comes after.

[Hyer]

Guns don't kill people, People kill people.
Like i said to begin with i'm not for or against dps meters.
I offered solutions to the toxic player behaviour.
If you agree players are already using other performance information displays in a toxic manner then what difference would the dps meters i suggested make ? Unlinkable, personal dmg display only.

I think there was a more constructive way you could've addressed this issue without appearing as a gatekeeper of what people should or shouldn't want in the game they enjoy playing.

Best of luck mate.

[nyxjeanz ♡]

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Guns don't kill people, People kill people.
Like i said to begin with i'm not for or against dps meters.
I offered solutions to the toxic player behaviour.
If you agree players are already using other performance information displays in a toxic manner then what difference would the dps meters i suggested make ? Unlinkable, personal dmg display only.

I think there was a more constructive way you could've addressed this issue without appearing as a gatekeeper of what people should or shouldn't want in the game they enjoy playing.

Best of luck mate.

It's like adding fuel to the fire. Adding more toxicity to the game.

[Rigor Mortex]

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Like I said even 8 people alive don’t give you 100 % certainty that you kill the boss when you miss the dmg. A dps meter tells you who did the necessary dmg too beat the enrage timer and who didn’t even if all 8 people survived the mechanics. Like I said what do you lose when you have a dps meter and don’t harass people with and just use it too see who you should avoid because he sandbags the party.

It's funny, because without DPS meters, we still have been able to defeat Argos have we not? :scaredpeep:. DPS meters bring more bad than good, period.

Yes so did I and like I said I had a lot of runs were the boss didn’t die even though we had 8 people up because we missed dmg. Your argument is effectively void. And you still didn’t answer my question. What do you lose when people use a dps meter. What is the problem for you if a person uses a dps meter and doesn’t tell you about it ? Are you afraid he won’t play with you anymore because you don’t pull your weight ?

[nyxjeanz ♡]

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It's funny, because without DPS meters, we still have been able to defeat Argos have we not? . DPS meters bring more bad than good, period.

Yes so did I and like I said I had a lot of runs were the boss didn’t die even though we had 8 people up because we missed dmg. Your argument is effectively void. And you still didn’t answer my question. What do you lose when people use a dps meter. What is the problem for you if a person uses a dps meter and doesn’t tell you about it ? Are you afraid he won’t play with you anymore because you don’t pull your weight ?

If people didn't reach the recommended ilvl, that's probably why you aren't doing damage. When one doesn't reach certain ilvl against bosses higher ilvl than them, their abilities miss and don't do any damage.
I don't lose anything, but the game will lose players if it becomes a toxic poophole like many WoW players have become. I'm usually 2nd or top MVP as a Reflux Sorceress, I pull my weight and still, my opinion doesn't change x

[Tzunny]

In 3 months i didn't seen anyone asking for this.
Myself, i was even hide all the combat numbers.

[Rigor Mortex]

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Yes so did I and like I said I had a lot of runs were the boss didn’t die even though we had 8 people up because we missed dmg. Your argument is effectively void. And you still didn’t answer my question. What do you lose when people use a dps meter. What is the problem for you if a person uses a dps meter and doesn’t tell you about it ? Are you afraid he won’t play with you anymore because you don’t pull your weight ?

If people didn't reach the recommended ilvl, that's probably why you aren't doing damage. When one doesn't reach certain ilvl against bosses higher ilvl than them, their abilities miss and don't do any damage.
I don't lose anything, but the game will lose players if it becomes a toxic poophole like many WoW players have become. I'm usually 2nd or top MVP as a Reflux Sorceress, I pull my weight and still, my opinion doesn't change x

You can only join the fights when you have the min item lvl and you also get item lvl synct too the min item lvl required for argos. So we all have respectively 1370 for phase 1 argos, 1385 for phase 2 and 1400 for phase 3. The Koreans can for example carry low item lvl player, something we can’t. The toxic behavior does get people banned anyway, doesn’t matter for what. And also you get the toxic people banned isn’t that a win win situation ?. I rather think bots kill the game then any other thing and not a dps meter. I mean there is a advanced combat tracker one already out for lost ark

[nyxjeanz ♡]

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If people didn't reach the recommended ilvl, that's probably why you aren't doing damage. When one doesn't reach certain ilvl against bosses higher ilvl than them, their abilities miss and don't do any damage.
I don't lose anything, but the game will lose players if it becomes a toxic poophole like many WoW players have become. I'm usually 2nd or top MVP as a Reflux Sorceress, I pull my weight and still, my opinion doesn't change x

You can only join the fights when you have the min item lvl and you also get item lvl synct too the min item lvl required for argos. So we all respectively 1370 for phase 1 argos, 1385 for phase 2 and 1400 for phase 3. The Koreans can for example carry low item lvl player, something we can’t. The toxic behavior does get people banned anyway, doesn’t matter for what. And also you get the toxic people banned isn’t that a win win situation ?. I rather think bots kill the game then any other thing and not a dps meter. I mean there is a advanced combat tracker one already out for lost ark

Actually, you're incorrect. You can still do Argos at P2 and P3 as a 1370 as long as your group continues the progression after P1. Some people are already selling carries for an expensive amount and you would see that in the Find Party section of the game.

[Rigor Mortex]

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You can only join the fights when you have the min item lvl and you also get item lvl synct too the min item lvl required for argos. So we all respectively 1370 for phase 1 argos, 1385 for phase 2 and 1400 for phase 3. The Koreans can for example carry low item lvl player, something we can’t. The toxic behavior does get people banned anyway, doesn’t matter for what. And also you get the toxic people banned isn’t that a win win situation ?. I rather think bots kill the game then any other thing and not a dps meter. I mean there is a advanced combat tracker one already out for lost ark

Actually, you're incorrect. You can still do Argos at P2 and P3 as a 1370 as long as your group continues the progression after P1. Some people are already selling carries for an expensive amount and you would see that in the Find Party section of the game.

So why would a random group go higher then the min item lvl anyway. If I look for only p1 argos I only do p 1 argos in party finder. Expect ofc selling the kill as you said. Ofc I don’t expect under geared player too kill the fights, so like I said I talked specifically about phase 1

[nyxjeanz ♡]

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Actually, you're incorrect. You can still do Argos at P2 and P3 as a 1370 as long as your group continues the progression after P1. Some people are already selling carries for an expensive amount and you would see that in the Find Party section of the game.

So why would a random group go higher then the min item lvl anyway. If I look for only p1 argos I only do p 1 argos in party finder. Expect ofc selling the kill as you said. Ofc I don’t expect under geared player too kill the fights, so like I said I talked specifically about phase 1

I have a 1370 Alt which is a Bard that has been able to do P2 of Argos when recommended level is 1385. It's funny because there is a shortage of support players, so they'll accept anyone that knows the mechanics as a support.

[Rigor Mortex]

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So why would a random group go higher then the min item lvl anyway. If I look for only p1 argos I only do p 1 argos in party finder. Expect ofc selling the kill as you said. Ofc I don’t expect under geared player too kill the fights, so like I said I talked specifically about phase 1

I have a 1370 Alt which is a Bard that has been able to do P2 of Argos when recommended level is 1385. It's funny because there is a shortage of support players, so they'll accept anyone that knows the mechanics as a support.

So you effectively don’t do dmg as support anyway, so you effectively only buff/shield and heal the dps. So it doesn’t change anything about going too p2 argos as dps with 1370

[nyxjeanz ♡]

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I have a 1370 Alt which is a Bard that has been able to do P2 of Argos when recommended level is 1385. It's funny because there is a shortage of support players, so they'll accept anyone that knows the mechanics as a support.

So you effectively don’t do dmg as support anyway, so you effectively only buff/shield and heal the dps. So it doesn’t change anything about going too p2 argos as dps with 1370

Cause no one wants a DPS that's below the recommended ilvl as they won't do damage. Hence why people pay to get carried.