I want to see a damage meter

[Ice-Nine]

I want to see a damage/DPS meter for Chaos Dungeons, Guardian Raids, Abyssal Dungeons, Abyssal Raids... basically any end-game instanced content.

I'm not trying to be toxic. It would be nice to see every party member, but I'm okay if it only shows my own damage to prevent toxicity. It's just a nice thing to have for experimenting with different builds, engravings, stats, etc.

[G4M5T3R]

引用自 Ruinous：

Again, because those arguing for dps meters don't seem to grasp the concept, *your* dps is heavily dependent on your TEAM. Your team may be the ones doing the staggers and counters to allow you your dps, your team may be the ones cleansing your arse, shielding you or otherwise buffing your damage. Unless a dps meter can break down every aspect of the game, and I'm pretty ducking sure they cannot, it is just a tool for e-peen and toxicity.

You're not wrong. Right up until the last sentence...

The game is already providing popups, it can easily store the values in an array and add them then refresh. Sure, you could use that DPS meter to callout others that are not buffing you because "I'm clearly not doing enough dmg therefor you suck" but it doesn't matter.
Toxic people are going to be toxic and guess what? You can report them for it. These very same people already inspect your gear/iLvl/roster lvl and can pit you in duels and CDs & GRs for MVP if they're gatekeepers of the guilds or endgame or w/e.

It's a dumb argument against a DPS meter. They already have all the tools they need to haze you.

[Ability]

引用自 Ruinous：

Again, because those arguing for dps meters don't seem to grasp the concept, *your* dps is heavily dependent on your TEAM. Your team may be the ones doing the staggers and counters to allow you your dps, your team may be the ones cleansing your arse, shielding you or otherwise buffing your damage. Unless a dps meter can break down every aspect of the game, and I'm pretty ducking sure they cannot, it is just a tool for e-peen and toxicity.

That last sentence.. nobody in their right mind wants dps meters for that. If a person's toxic they'll find another way to be toxic until they're banned. Way to take it to the extreme like any topic is on this board..

[Soul]

引用自 DeiGratia：

引用自 Noble Ten：

I personally want to see my own damage. So I can judge where I am at during guardian raids. I know Ilvl has a big part of it (being higher or lower than other people) Its just some guardian raids, I want to get an idea, if I need to improve or not.

Once you farm it a few times you'll know. Make a group, know your class and or what you bring. If you can't figure out who is doing what in a 4man guardian then idk what else to say


As far as the people not very bright. Plenty of people here already played on KR spending good money just to keep an account open doing the content. Some played on RU and idk about Japan. Anyways most people know you do not need a damage meter. The very few pros don't outweigh the cons.

Regardless of my or anyone else's feelings the game director already said no. Going to call him bad also?

Hey aren't you that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ from a few months ago that was defending, along with the trashbag Saintone, to tooth and nails about how this game isn't p2w. now he deleted the video he posted to cover up his lies, and won't answer any questions regarding it, and here you are still spouting your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥? LOL

[Densiz]

if we had damage meter i will be playing with full damage build (without buff/debuff/stagger/weak point).

[Soul]

引用自 Densiz：

if we had damage meter i will be playing with full damage build (without buff/debuff/stagger/weak point).

That's funny because damage meter usually also show all other stats, damage taken, uptime, stagger, weak point, potions used, bombs used. Sounds like you just would get even more ♥♥♥♥♥♥ LOL. An example of what meters actually record and show

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DtRhP2mVazkpAdQg#fight=8&type=damage-done&source=9

Damage done, damage taken, buffs, buff up time, debuff up time. etc.

[tankanidis]

引用自 Soul：

引用自 Densiz：

if we had damage meter i will be playing with full damage build (without buff/debuff/stagger/weak point).

That's funny because damage meter usually also show all other stats, damage taken, uptime, stagger, weak point, potions used, bombs used. Sounds like you just would get even more ♥♥♥♥♥♥ LOL. An example of what meters actually record and show

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DtRhP2mVazkpAdQg#fight=8&type=damage-done&source=9

Damage done, damage taken, buffs, buff up time, debuff up time. etc.

Doesn't matter what the logs show when you break them down

The only thing people are looking at ingame is DPS/Total Damage Done.

That's it

Not pots / staggers / healing nothing. DPS.

Do mechanics well? NO just DPS

Died 7 times? JUST DPS

Be horrible to team mates? DPS

[Soul]

引用自 tankanidis：

引用自 Soul：

That's funny because damage meter usually also show all other stats, damage taken, uptime, stagger, weak point, potions used, bombs used. Sounds like you just would get even more ♥♥♥♥♥♥ LOL. An example of what meters actually record and show

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DtRhP2mVazkpAdQg#fight=8&type=damage-done&source=9

Damage done, damage taken, buffs, buff up time, debuff up time. etc.

Doesn't matter what the logs show when you break them down

The only thing people are looking at ingame is DPS/Total Damage Done.

That's it

Not pots / staggers / healing nothing. DPS.

Do mechanics well? NO just DPS

Died 7 times? JUST DPS

Be horrible to team mates? DPS

That's where you are wrong kiddo, played WoW and FFXIV not once did people just look at dps, they look at damage taken and all the other ♥♥♥♥. Keep deluding yourself though. "Hey guys we are wiping cuz we can't stagger in time but hey let me look at dps instead of stagger damage." Yeah you wish people were that retarded.

[tankanidis]

引用自 Soul：

引用自 tankanidis：

Doesn't matter what the logs show when you break them down

The only thing people are looking at ingame is DPS/Total Damage Done.

That's it

Not pots / staggers / healing nothing. DPS.

Do mechanics well? NO just DPS

Died 7 times? JUST DPS

Be horrible to team mates? DPS

That's where you are wrong kiddo, played WoW and FFXIV not once did people just look at dps, they look at damage taken and all the other ♥♥♥♥. Keep deluding yourself though. "Hey guys we are wiping cuz we can't stagger in time but hey let me look at dps instead of stagger damage." Yeah you wish people were that retarded.

I know we're both playing a fantasy game but you seem to be living in an imaginary world if you think the people i see everyday in area chat are not going to just follow dps meters for dps and actually go into some financial consultant break down on what's going on

'lol bro i did 60% dmg, you trash playa get rekt nub' is more likely than 'from careful analysis it seems our team requires more stagger in the 2nd phase of the boss, cheerio chaps let's continue'

[Soul]

引用自 tankanidis：

引用自 Soul：

That's where you are wrong kiddo, played WoW and FFXIV not once did people just look at dps, they look at damage taken and all the other ♥♥♥♥. Keep deluding yourself though. "Hey guys we are wiping cuz we can't stagger in time but hey let me look at dps instead of stagger damage." Yeah you wish people were that retarded.

I know we're both playing a fantasy game but you seem to be living in an imaginary world if you think the people i see everyday in area chat are not going to just follow dps meters for dps and actually go into some financial consultant break down on what's going on

'lol bro i did 60% dmg, you trash playa get rekt nub' is more likely than 'from careful analysis it seems our team requires more stagger in the 2nd phase of the boss, cheerio chaps let's continue'

That's your excuse? They can already do that with the MVP screen at the end of every instance. So in fact that only further validate why there should be an indepth damage meter implemented.