remove the guild leaving penalty.

[ImaChickIRL]

4 day lockout from joining another?

there are so many dead guilds right now. do you really want people logging in and staring at a dead guild day in and day out? does that look good on the game?

[EMCM Magellan]

Think 4 days is rough? wait a couple more guild bailings at its 30+ days.

[ImaChickIRL]

Originally posted by EMCM Magellan:

Think 4 days is rough? wait a couple more guild bailings at its 30+ days.

gawd damn

[tankanidis]

it's a stupid mechanic

most guilds are pretty much afk just to donate so why penalise players who want an active community

should be 1 day at max to avoid any GvG shenanigans

[Mercurial Obscurial]

I've heard that it's supposedly to prevent people from abusing guild donations to level a guild up really fast. It's not the game's fault if people join dead guilds and I would think once the penalties start getting higher people would be more selective...

[tankanidis]

Originally posted by Mercurial Obscurial:

I've heard that it's supposedly to prevent people from abusing guild donations to level a guild up really fast. It's not the game's fault if people join dead guilds and I would think once the penalties start getting higher people would be more selective...

No other game makes you wait a month to join a guild because you cant see how active/last online people are until you JOIN it

Just make it 1 guild a day or 1 day cooldown on rejoining a guild and there's no issue with level ups ( or 1 donation to a guild per roster per day)

[SlyCoop]

I think its to stop people guild hopping for the stones. Imagine joining a guild spend 6000 silver get bloodstones leave guild then rinse and repeat.

Devs thought about this exploit and have it covered maybe theres another way round it? I cant think of anything.

I've come from an MMO that had this problem of allowing hopping and what happened was the community would take note or flag guild hoppers and wouldnt accept their invite requests.

this would be passed around to other guild leaders making getting into a guild nigh impossible. Thats not the best resolve to it.

Edit: I realise alot of people are going to say this

[ImaChickIRL]

Originally posted by SlyCoop:

I think its to stop people guild hopping for the stones.

>if xxx character has clicked donation from X reset date to Y reset date
>then character cannot click again.

just like it is right now when you're in a guild lol.

if they clicked donation that week, make it so they cant again that week, i really dont think this is a huge fix lol. better then not being able to leave or join guilds.

[EMCM Magellan]

Sometimes Choices Matter.

[tankanidis]

Originally posted by SlyCoop:

Devs thought about this exploit and have it covered maybe theres another way round it? I cant think of anything.

Really?

Just make it you can only claim bloodstones once per day.

[SlyCoop]

Originally posted by ImaChickIRL:

Originally posted by SlyCoop:

I think its to stop people guild hopping for the stones.

>if xxx character has clicked donation from X reset date to Y reset date
>then character cannot click again.

just like it is right now when you're in a guild lol.

if they clicked donation that week, make it so they cant again that week, i really dont think this is a huge fix lol. better then not being able to leave or join guilds.

Good suggestion/ i dunno how they built the guild stuff in the code etc...... Sometimes myself and maybe the people who built it that way overlooked this. Sometimes things are done the hard way and not the easy way.

[SlyCoop]

Originally posted by tankanidis:

Originally posted by SlyCoop:

Devs thought about this exploit and have it covered maybe theres another way round it? I cant think of anything.

Really?

Just make it you can only claim bloodstones once per day.

Depends how they set it up. I'm no dev. And i dont have access to their game code. Maybe its got too many strings attatched? No clue

[tankanidis]

Originally posted by SlyCoop:

Originally posted by tankanidis:

Really?

Just make it you can only claim bloodstones once per day.

Depends how they set it up. |'m no dev. And i dont have access to their game code.

Considering it took Devs from smilegate to physically fly out to Seattle to help Amazon code a daylight savings change manually after 2 failed attempts, you would fit in just fine with 0 dev exp

[SlyCoop]

Originally posted by tankanidis:

Originally posted by SlyCoop:

Depends how they set it up. |'m no dev. And i dont have access to their game code.

Considering it took Devs from smilegate to physically fly out to Seattle to help Amazon code a daylight savings change manually after 2 failed attempts, you would fit in just fine with 0 dev exp

I would think that modyfying guild systems that tend to have more going on under the hood to be more problematic. Even if its a small and somewhat seemless change. Just how i looked at it.

[MTOKA]

The leave penalty is there so people don't make sub guilds and have members rotate and donate to multiple guilds throughout the week artificially progressing the guild. This is more so to combat bots as staying in the guild is more worthwhile for real players since you start getting weekly stone in the mail once you're there for more than one week.

[Mercurial Obscurial]

Originally posted by tankanidis:

No other game makes you wait a month to join a guild because you cant see how active/last online people are until you JOIN it

Just make it 1 guild a day or 1 day cooldown on rejoining a guild and there's no issue with level ups ( or 1 donation to a guild per roster per day)

Players being lazy and/or irresponsible in their choices of which guilds to join is on them, not the game. Steam has a sub-section where people can post guild ads, so there's even less of a reason to blame the game for bad decisions. It's not AGS, Smilegate, or Steam's job to vet guilds for players.