Lost Ark
Mattman 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 11:40am
Soulfist.
can someone explain to me why soulfist is trashcan weak? how are you going to have a goku styled class and make it weaker than a wet noodle...

before you stupid fks come in with your "you need the right engravings/ this and that, gems this gems that, right build this right build that" play a soulfist before you talk son, they're trashcan.

BUFF soulfist... i do more damage on my bard. a 100+ il lower other classes can out damage a soulfist. stupid developers.

nothing agitates me more than my whole team dying on a guardian raid... and my soulfist can't do sht because it's beyond weak. i'd have a better chance carrying on a bard.

i WAS FORCED to change mains because soulfist is SOOO FKN WEAK, it's beyond ridiculous how people say "this game is balanced" they're stupid to believe so. :steamsalty: :salt:
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Low-tier Arc 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 11:42am 
skill issue. cope seethe mald.
Jk, yeah crapper and suckfist are kinda on the bottom tier atm.
If you are trying martial artist, just go for wardancer. It's more viable and actually have a team buff for being a "dps" related class
Lần sửa cuối bởi Low-tier Arc; 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 12:00pm
tankanidis 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 11:43am 
supposedly all balanced for endgame Tier 3

but before that everything is all over the place
Lady 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 11:44am 
Yeah the only thing Soulfist has going is the Spirit Bomb.
kenchiza 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 11:56am 
yeah i was made this class i thought this class is strong but i play it and realized soulfist is weak and found out soulfist is c tier. this class is worse
Mattman 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 11:58am 
they're trashcan. @soulfists. trashfist i meant. i've talked to a few t3 soulfists and they say soulfist still sucks in t3. and that's with best gems/ engravings. so i don't agree with tankandis with the balanced in t3. they're better but still trash.
Trouser_Dune_Worm 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 12:39pm 
Routinely take MVP on my soulfist main. This is probably a l2p issue considering soulfist difficulty is fairly high. At hype 3 soulfist is the strongest class in the game.
QuackAttack 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 12:42pm 
Nguyên văn bởi SieEhmBe:
can someone explain to me why soulfist is trashcan weak? how are you going to have a goku styled class and make it weaker than a wet noodle...

before you stupid fks come in with your "you need the right engravings/ this and that, gems this gems that, right build this right build that" play a soulfist before you talk son, they're trashcan.

BUFF soulfist... i do more damage on my bard. a 100+ il lower other classes can out damage a soulfist. stupid developers.

nothing agitates me more than my whole team dying on a guardian raid... and my soulfist can't do sht because it's beyond weak. i'd have a better chance carrying on a bard.

i WAS FORCED to change mains because soulfist is SOOO ♥♥♥ WEAK, it's beyond ridiculous how people say "this game is balanced" they're stupid to believe so. :steamsalty: :salt:
Try striker
RotherHans 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 12:54pm 
Another one who fell for the super-saja meme.
I wasted only a powerpass on her and am still pissed.
Pudding 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 1:01pm 
the secret is in engraving :P
Mattman 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 1:05pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Trouser_Dune_Worm:
Routinely take MVP on my soulfist main. This is probably a l2p issue considering soulfist difficulty is fairly high. At hype 3 soulfist is the strongest class in the game.
whales don't count, don't put "skill" in here as if pressing z requires it. hype management is easy asf. also spirit bomb doesn't make the class the strongest in game. zerkers hit just as hard with their awakening, while having FAR higher damage overall, bard basic attack hits harder than soulfist basic even in hype 3, SH abilities hit 5x's hardest than soulfist even in hype 3 while SH has WAY shorter cooldowns on all all abilities. a singular sorc ability does more damage than hype 3 time limit with all abilities used "not including awakening skill" you think i'd come into the forums with 0 knowledge or testing to state something.

i've talked to EVERY soulfist i've seen in t2, even with perfected engravings they ALL stated "soulfist feels very under powered and weak" a few of them even stated it's hard finding groups/parties because no one wants a dead weight class in their party.
Branthrax 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 1:06pm 
Level 3 hype is the only way this class is any way, shape or form viable, and even then you need to hit your Spirit Bomb, if you miss that ability you're better off just not even playing the raid, that ability is 80% of your damage.
Lần sửa cuối bởi Branthrax; 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 1:06pm
Hello 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 1:07pm 
pretty easy for me to get mvp in t3 content, don't know what you're talking about
Nou 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 1:18pm 
Hi, Soulfist main here. I understand your frustration, I too agree with you. Here I want to share my thought and some things to do to help a little. Soulfist is a little more complex due to the wording of some of her skills, you'll think that this buff stacks with this but it doesn't. (E.g. Specialization ->Hype Mode/Awakening Engraving. This doesn't extend hype mode nor increases it's dmg for certain abilities, it's capped)

Here's my build/credential:
https://imgur.com/a/djbzqrv
https://imgur.com/187N0xi

Cons:

DMG Buff NEEDED:
She needs dmg boost before engaging to maximize dmg (E.g. Hype Mode + Pulv. Palm-Rdy Atk +25% dmg for 4 sec + ENG Release-♥♥♥ SPRT +6% ATK/Rdy Atk +40% Atk dmg for 16/6 sec, etc.) Without using em you won't be doing as much dmg as most class usually would. Also, because of these boosts not lasting very long, you have very short time frame to burst the enemy before they expire. So if the enemy run away, boosts was for nothing. You'll have to wait until cool down.

Slow Cast.Skill:
Nothing hurts more than slow casting animation. Meaning if monster interrupts you, that's it, no buffs for you or charging too long that enemy became invulnerable stage already.

Stagger DMG:
All her abilities are low-mid to none-existence. Her only High stagger is "Energy Blast-Concussion." Also one of the slowest casting abilities, so stagger check is painful, takes approximately 1.2 whole second to finish casting before dmg+stagger occurs.

Pros is her Con:
Her biggest kit is "World Decimation" aka "Spirit Bomb" -the most powerful ultimate(She has the strongest dmg ultimate than any existing class. that's why KR run Robust+Awakening -High Burst/DPS, short time period) but it takes 500 years to charge up, so it's a hit or miss. And like I said, if monster moves or becomes invulnerable it's gg.

Pros:

Constant Dmg for Meridian/Energy Overflow:
Using "Meridian/Energy Overflow" provides constant dmg, but not as high as Robust. You can cast abilities more, and it's action packed. You have more mobility (if you're going Swift+Crit already) as well as control the field most of the time, not really depend on position and monster attacks.
DeiGratia 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 1:35pm 
Class will get a buff probably sometime this year. It's near the bottom. Anyone who thinks classes are balanced are full of it. All classes can do content however. If you want raw dps try gunslinger, sorc or zerk.

Artillist, gunlancer or war dancer if you want some really good strong stagger
VoiD 16 Thg03, 2022 @ 1:42pm 
It was my main too, I abandoned her, you are not joking when you said a bard 100ilvl lower can deal way more damage than her, my T1 paladin was hitting harder than my T2 soulfist too. It's not bad, it's terrible, it needs a +100% damage boost just to start dealing as much damage as the other classes.

The thing about soulfist is not that it's a normal class full of damage boosts you can use to deal insane burst over everyone else, no.

It's a ♥♥♥♥ class with less than half the base damage of everybody else (supports included) that needs to use tons of damage boosts just to try to deal as much damage as everybody else. And it still sucks.

Then the buffs run out and you spend just as long dealing 1/3 of your support's DPS.

The thing about soulfist is that in your (very) short window in which your damage isn't complete trash you're forced to hit your ult, which takes 2hours to cast and has a 99% miss rate unless somebody else manages to stun the boss, and even still they often get up before the casting is finished, if you hit it you can deal some crazy damage and almost get MVP at the end of the match, if you miss even one ult during the fight then you're dead weight and the party would have killed the boss faster with a 2nd support instead.

Yes, it's a trashy experience, made a Deathblade alt that hits for more than the entire soulfist's rotation with a single regular skill and never looked back.
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