Adept Tools Drop?

[D.A.R.K.]

For some reason, I just got 3 chests with Adept tools inside, I was able to choose the ones I want... Do you know how did I get those 3 Adept Tools Chest? (I don't know the name, by the way)

[Darkrayne]

Login bonuses. That's where you got them.

If you want more you need to upgrade your stronghold and craft them.. or wait for more login bonuses.

[Drackmore]

Yeah as the other guy said, you got those from the daily login reward thats going on till 10/3/22. The chest gives you 3 Adept Tool Chests that let you pick the tools you want and they come with like 3 randomly selected perks (super armor is a great one).

If you want more tools of a quality higher than green you'll need to buy the recipe from one of the NPCs in your stronghold (they're by the water where the merchant spawns. They cost a few seals each so you'll need to send your workers on dispatches regularly.

On top of that you'll need to either farm Uncommon (green) relic items or buy them off the market so you can craft Archeology maps so you can farm Tool Crafting Kits as these archeology maps are the only way to get them and they're needed to craft the tool (These maps take you to a hidden dungeon with a chest at the end with some random loot and doesn't require any Work Energy to open).

[D.A.R.K.]

Originally posted by Drackmore:

Yeah as the other guy said, you got those from the daily login reward thats going on till 10/3/22. The chest gives you 3 Adept Tool Chests that let you pick the tools you want and they come with like 3 randomly selected perks (super armor is a great one).

If you want more tools of a quality higher than green you'll need to buy the recipe from one of the NPCs in your stronghold (they're by the water where the merchant spawns. They cost a few seals each so you'll need to send your workers on dispatches regularly.

On top of that you'll need to either farm Uncommon (green) relic items or buy them off the market so you can craft Archeology maps so you can farm Tool Crafting Kits as these archeology maps are the only way to get them and they're needed to craft the tool (These maps take you to a hidden dungeon with a chest at the end with some random loot and doesn't require any Work Energy to open).

I took a look about that here, I already have all the recipes, and already have all materials to craft but the Adept Tool Craft Kit, which I have no idea where to find. I need 3 of those to craft the other 3 tools. And then, I assume, better rarity will work the same way, probably.

[Drackmore]

Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

I already have all the recipes, and already have all materials to craft but the Adept Tool Craft Kit, which I have no idea where to find.

Like I said, you'll need to craft Archaeology Maps using green relic drops. It takes about 170 per map.

To make the maps you'll need to research the crafting recipe in your Stronghold. You can go to your lab and change the list to display unavailable research to see what the requirements are if you cannot craft them currently, otherwise the research takes like two hours or so to complete and is a relatively cheap research.

Use the map like you do any other to find the secret dungeon. At the end of the dungeon instead of a boss there will just be a chest. Opening it will net you with some Archaeology drops, some honing materials (I typically get those crystals that raise honing chance), and has a rare chance to drop the Tool Crafting Kits needed to craft the tools.

Alternatively, if you have Lv10 or higher Archaeology you can rarely find those same chests while relic hunting.

[D.A.R.K.]

OMG, I just realize, we don't need to do the map thing.
After collecting 18 World Tree Leaves, we get 6 Adept Craft Kits.
We can craft all pieces without that map RNG BS.

[Drackmore]

Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

OMG, I just realize, we don't need to do the map thing.
After collecting 18 World Tree Leaves, we get 6 Adept Craft Kits.
We can craft all pieces without that map RNG BS.

You do you know that
1)You might need more than 6 purple craft kits to get the with a good set of bonuses

2)world tree leaves are literally that same RNG ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ just without the map. 10 leaves are already a bastard to get, 18 even more so.

[(*'-')]

lol yeah good luck with 18 world tree leaves. I got 2 back to back and then not a single one for 30,000 energy. The RNG on them is all over the place.

[D.A.R.K.]

Originally posted by Drackmore:

Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

OMG, I just realize, we don't need to do the map thing.
After collecting 18 World Tree Leaves, we get 6 Adept Craft Kits.
We can craft all pieces without that map RNG BS.

You do you know that
1)You might need more than 6 purple craft kits to get the with a good set of bonuses

2)world tree leaves are literally that same RNG ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ just without the map. 10 leaves are already a bastard to get, 18 even more so.

01. I really don't care about the set bonuses on Adept because, eventually, I will get rid of it to get better rarities, thinking about good bonuses, to me, it's just on the last one, I think it's Legendary ou Master, something like that, which I can min-max to have the perfect one.

02. I'm a completionist, I'm going to rank up all the trade skills to max level... Right now I have Foraging, Logging and Mining at 20, next step is to set the others 3 to 20 as well, and then 30 each, and then 40 each. It's RNG but I already have 14, just 4 more to get it =)

[D.A.R.K.]

Originally posted by (*'-'):

lol yeah good luck with 18 world tree leaves. I got 2 back to back and then not a single one for 30,000 energy. The RNG on them is all over the place.

I already have 14 out of the 18. I'll probably get those 4 while leveling up Fishing, Hunting and Excavating to 20.

[D.A.R.K.]

Originally posted by (*'-'):

lol yeah good luck with 18 world tree leaves. I got 2 back to back and then not a single one for 30,000 energy. The RNG on them is all over the place.

As I told, isn't hard, you just need to set yourself to reach level 20 in everything, and I didn't even got there yet. Mining, Logging, and Foraging are level 20, but the others aren't 20 yet, and I got the 18 easily. It seems you didn't try enough to think it's hard.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2774015142

[(*'-')]

I'm 29 logging, 22 mining, 18 foraging and still not even close to 18 world leaves. Hell I could be 1 in everything and still understand the basic concept that RNG means you either get lucky or you don't.

[D.A.R.K.]

Originally posted by (*'-'):

I'm 29 logging, 22 mining, 18 foraging and still not even close to 18 world leaves. Hell I could be 1 in everything and still understand the basic concept that RNG means you either get lucky or you don't.

Actually there's no RNG in games, it's Pseudo RNG, which means everything has a basis on probability. So... Let's say every time you gather something you have 0.01% chance to get the Tree Leave, this means you can gather 10,000 items to "guarantee" to get the item.

I'm 20/20/20/18/8/11 and I got 18 Tree Leaves, this means around 18 Tree Leaves in around 97, which could be something like every 6 to 10 levels a Tree Leave... The only conclusion is that people isn't working on Trade Skill hard enough.

Save 1,000 work energy for missions, spend everything else everyday. It takes ~55 hours to refill the entire 10k work energy, and you can use that 3,000 work energy boost to increase the chance for rare items, I used those to reach level 20 in Mining, Logging and Foraging, maybe that potion also increases the chance of getting Tree Leaves.

In a few words: Isn't about RNG, it's about working smart and hard.

[Drackmore]

Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

Originally posted by (*'-'):

I'm 29 logging, 22 mining, 18 foraging and still not even close to 18 world leaves. Hell I could be 1 in everything and still understand the basic concept that RNG means you either get lucky or you don't.

Actually there's no RNG in games, it's Pseudo RNG, which means everything has a basis on probability. So... Let's say every time you gather something you have 0.01% chance to get the Tree Leave, this means you can gather 10,000 items to "guarantee" to get the item.

You're incorrectly assuming that your % chance to get something stacks. If something has a 1% chance to drop. 100 gathers doesn't "guarantee" the item's drop. When I hone a piece of gear with 40% chance to succeed I'm not guaranteed to get it on my third hone (god knows I had to max out the artisan buff to brute force that ♥♥♥♥ >_>)



that being said, there is at least one source saying that world leaves do drop in certain locations (still rng mind you) so that might be why you found them in such an amount that makes you the outlier.

https://infolao.tistory.com/entry/World-Tree-Leaf-Locations

[D.A.R.K.]

Originally posted by Drackmore:

Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

Actually there's no RNG in games, it's Pseudo RNG, which means everything has a basis on probability. So... Let's say every time you gather something you have 0.01% chance to get the Tree Leave, this means you can gather 10,000 items to "guarantee" to get the item.

You're incorrectly assuming that your % chance to get something stacks. If something has a 1% chance to drop. 100 gathers doesn't "guarantee" the item's drop. When I hone a piece of gear with 40% chance to succeed I'm not guaranteed to get it on my third hone (god knows I had to max out the artisan buff to brute force that ♥♥♥♥ >_>)



that being said, there is at least one source saying that world leaves do drop in certain locations (still rng mind you) so that might be why you found them in such an amount that makes you the outlier.

https://infolao.tistory.com/entry/World-Tree-Leaf-Locations

I already said, there's no RNG in games, please, search the difference between Pseudo RNG and RNG. Every RNG in games are Pseudo RNG, and all Pseudo RNGs are manipulable, in this case, using that potion that I don't remember that gives you 3,000 work points worth of higher chance of getting rare loot, double XP, double amount, and double deterioration on tools... There are probably more ways to influence your chance to get rare loot, I don't know because I don't know too much about this game yet.

It's simple: You can't force RNG to happen because there's no RNG, but you can manipulate Pseudo RNG to work on your favor... What I did? I used that potion to reach level 20 on Logging, Mining, and Foraging. Now I'm using to reach 20 on Hunting, and this gave me enough leaves to get the 18 Tree Leaves. As I told, work smart, and hard.

Oh... One more thing... There's something called "Bad Luck Protection" which increases your chance of doing something Pseudo RNG based when you fail too much... Honing gear is one of them, every time you fail a level up, you gain a little bit of %, eventually you'll fail enough to reach 100% and guarantee a success...

MAYBE (because I don't know) farming works the same way, the more you gather stuff, higher your chance of finding rare loot, this means it's better too work and level up your gathering skills, than using potions that gives you XP that level up your gathering skills.

But learn the difference between RNG and Pseudo RNG, and learn that we can manipulate Pseudo RNG on our favor to reach our objectives.

[D.A.R.K.]

I don't want to kick the dead dog, but I just got another Tree Leave while reaching around 50 percent of Hunting 19, and this time I wasn't using the potion, I was just leveling up Hunting as usual... Literally the easiest thing to have, and everything you need to do is to spend time on it.