Auto key is legal to farm collectibles in Lost Ark?

[El Contramaestre]

The Artificer has automatic turrets and I saw a guy who was absent but put a turret every 20 seconds flat and kept farming continuously.

is this practice legal? If you could give me an official response from a moderator, I would greatly appreciate it.

PS: excuse my English but I only speak Spanish. This is taken from Google translate.

[MancakeBR]

Botting is against the rules. So no.

[Ficelle]

It is a bot...it is forbidden
Report them

[Lieutenant Dan]

Very illegal, you will 100% go to jail

[El Contramaestre]

What confirmation exists that this practice is illegal? I only see confusion on the part of many people and very little or no official response

[Caduryn]

İlk olarak El Contramaestre tarafından gönderildi:

What confirmation exists that this practice is illegal? I only see confusion on the part of many people and very little or no official response

Are you really asking that?

Not a single MMORPG allows Botting/Cheating

[EMCM Magellan]

İlk olarak El Contramaestre tarafından gönderildi:

The Artificer has automatic turrets and I saw a guy who was absent but put a turret every 20 seconds flat and kept farming continuously.

is this practice legal? If you could give me an official response from a moderator, I would greatly appreciate it.

PS: excuse my English but I only speak Spanish. This is taken from Google translate.

No, no es legal, es una muy buena manera de ser baneado.

[Sleepy Yoshi]

Code of conduct;

3. Play Fair
Do not: cheat, bot, hack, or use other software or services that give you an unfair advantage.

A development studio very rarely comes out and says 'x software is ok' if it can be used in a way that has unforeseen consequences and/or can be used for things other than what someone is asking about. That is where macro programs are going to fall. So the safe bet? Air on the side of caution.

[Cutie]

Report the characters you see doing this. I've seen 5 bots in one area patrolling the same path to kill mobs. Most likely used by goldsellers as their names are randomized.

[Asherah]

İlk olarak Dandalf tarafından gönderildi:

Very illegal, you will 100% go to jail

Ive have reported them more then, and I didn't go to jail

[G4M5T3R]

İlk olarak El Contramaestre tarafından gönderildi:

What confirmation exists that this practice is illegal? I only see confusion on the part of many people and very little or no official response

The TOS you agree to by playing the game.

I would still like to know if you'll get flagged simply for using AutoHotKey. You can't hardbind essential keys and not expect people to look to alternatives. There has not been a clear answer to this question anywhere.

[Shurenai]

İlk olarak G4M5T3R tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak El Contramaestre tarafından gönderildi:

What confirmation exists that this practice is illegal? I only see confusion on the part of many people and very little or no official response

The TOS you agree to by playing the game.

I would still like to know if you'll get flagged simply for using AutoHotKey. You can't hardbind essential keys and not expect people to look to alternatives. There has not been a clear answer to this question anywhere.

You're never going to hear them tell you 'it's okay to use XYZ' because of reasons outlined above.

But, The basic rule of thumb that most online game companies go by is that 1 key stroke = 1 key stroke, End of story. If you follow that, you're not going to get in trouble basically ever for it. And I'd wager it's the same here- If you you use AHK to make your G press into an F press, you're not going to get in trouble. If you use AHK to make your G press into a '1, 2, 3, 4 potion, lmb to move, etc, etc, etc' macro, you're gonna get in trouble. Basically, don't use AHK to script/macro things.


That said, People still use AHK for legitimate purposes? Every keyboard and mouse I've ever owned in the last 20 years has had it's own personal program to rebind everything. (EG: Razer Synapse, Corsair's ICUE, etc)

[G4M5T3R]

İlk olarak Shurenai tarafından gönderildi:

That said, People still use AHK for legitimate purposes? Every keyboard and mouse I've ever owned in the last 20 years has had it's own personal program to rebind everything. (EG: Razer Synapse, Corsair's ICUE, etc)

I mean, I do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There's probably dozens of us.

I know no one endorses using third party software, but they've made announcements regarding the bots (and the scripts they have running to combat them) so it begs the question if they've blacklisted AHK.

[El Contramaestre]

İlk olarak Shurenai tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak G4M5T3R tarafından gönderildi:

The TOS you agree to by playing the game.

I would still like to know if you'll get flagged simply for using AutoHotKey. You can't hardbind essential keys and not expect people to look to alternatives. There has not been a clear answer to this question anywhere.

You're never going to hear them tell you 'it's okay to use XYZ' because of reasons outlined above.

But, The basic rule of thumb that most online game companies go by is that 1 key stroke = 1 key stroke, End of story. If you follow that, you're not going to get in trouble basically ever for it. And I'd wager it's the same here- If you you use AHK to make your G press into an F press, you're not going to get in trouble. If you use AHK to make your G press into a '1, 2, 3, 4 potion, lmb to move, etc, etc, etc' macro, you're gonna get in trouble. Basically, don't use AHK to script/macro things.


That said, People still use AHK for legitimate purposes? Every keyboard and mouse I've ever owned in the last 20 years has had it's own personal program to rebind everything. (EG: Razer Synapse, Corsair's ICUE, etc)

So what this guy does is put up a turret every 20 seconds and farm like crazy for collectibles, isn't that banable because it's just a key press? (The key to put the turret)

[marsHm311oW]

I doubt its botting. Is it botting if I use a toothpick to hold LMB to auto attack? I doubt it.

[Ficelle]

Legal or not is depending on if someone is actually doing the action or if it is AFK playing


A player killing over and over...and over...the same pack(s) of mobs is legal...like the 'chinese farmers' back in the time...
The 'chinese farmer' is on keyboard and is doing the action...he is 'playing', so, it is fine

An automated program doing the action (noone on keyboard) is not legal
It is a bot and noone is 'playing'


Generally, in online games...
Cheating / exploiting / modding / botting...are illegal

Now, just like IRL, it is not because something is illegal that you cant do it...especially if it is not really enforced or if the risk is low or harmless
But if you get caught and punished...well, dont cry ;D