LVL 30 the game got a bit overloaded?

[Mac]

I just got to lvl 30 and ok, the stronghold is "fine"..., but I also noticed the book of coordination, there were no explanation on this...
Than I also could notice market + auction house... And I thought initially they were the same thing, but it seems they are not and I got really lazy to read, and read, and read all these new features :S that are appearing non-stop...
And guild donation and rewards, and ability stone + engraving (didn't understand the engraving one)... and ships, and etc, etc, etc.
I know a lot of MMORPG has like a lot of things, but I just feel some stuff were not very well introduced and were pushed and rushed between lvl 27~30 a bit too much?

It was the first time the game overwhelmed me and made me want to stop playing it because of the overloaded stuff I got today. And I believe there are much more to come. :S

Anyone also felt this way?

Edit: The game is amazing though, btw.

[Drunio]

Yeah. I hit the wall of too much random **** in the game with the ships/islands. Almost made me quit.

I feel like the problem is that the game is overall too easy. Theres no compelling "need" to do anything other than level as fast as you can and then raise your ilvl as fast as you can.

If the game was actually difficult maybe we'd feel compelled to actually learn all of the systems and make use of them. As is the vast majority of game features feel like a bloated unneeded mess. Then the fact that most of them are completely tedious doesn't help.

Game has some amazing visuals and some of the fights can be quite fun, but I'm really struggling to continue playing.

Edit note: I'm including endgame in the too easy category.

[AguilaDeAcero]

Yes, it's badly presented to you. Expecially all of a sudden! But it's not that complicated after a while. Take it slow, specially in the stronghold place with all the "mini games and crafting". It's really fun to be there even if you have to manage all at first.
The ony bad thing of all this new features it's the waiting times and gambling mechanics for chances to upgrade.

I'm not sure, but I think there is an in game guide to recheck all stuff already said by the game tutorials. Anyway, go slow (and I know the text it's a pain in the ass, specially after the already book boring heavy campaing) but try to re read the tutorial and you will see that it's simple enough.
But yeah, as you said: it's overloaded.

[UltraMagnus]

For me its often a distrust of the system.
Like games like these, and mobile games will be like here's this cool resource to play with. Give you a short demo of how it works and then almost encourage you to burn it.

Only to find out there's a catch later.

Feathers is one such thing. If you listen to the folks that played the Korea version you get only so many of these through adventure journals and story. Then that's it. You gotta start purchasing them. But they just kinda hand them out and give you the option to use them if you die at lvl 20. Battle items too. They auto equip them. I've fat fingered a bunch of stuff that I for sure didn't even want equipped that takes me 5000 trade skills worth of mats or more to recraft even one of.

For things like engraving, its like you're given bags full of stuff to do it. But i want to go read whether or not I'm going to be forever burning those items on low level gear needlessly right now. Or if I should be hoarding it all like I am the dungeon items.

Its not so much complexity sometimes as like if I mess this up am I burning myself down the line.

[Orbert]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Drunio:

Yeah. I hit the wall of too much random **** in the game with the ships/islands. Almost made me quit.

I feel like the problem is that the game is overall too easy. Theres no compelling "need" to do anything other than level as fast as you can and then raise your ilvl as fast as you can.

If the game was actually difficult maybe we'd feel compelled to actually learn all of the systems and make use of them. As is the vast majority of game features feel like a bloated unneeded mess. Then the fact that most of them are completely tedious doesn't help.

Game has some amazing visuals and some of the fights can be quite fun, but I'm really struggling to continue playing.

Edit note: I'm including endgame in the too easy category.

What I level are you and have you done phantom palace? The game is deft not easy at end game

[freedomfletch]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Drunio:

Yeah. I hit the wall of too much random **** in the game with the ships/islands. Almost made me quit.

I feel like the problem is that the game is overall too easy. Theres no compelling "need" to do anything other than level as fast as you can and then raise your ilvl as fast as you can.

If the game was actually difficult maybe we'd feel compelled to actually learn all of the systems and make use of them. As is the vast majority of game features feel like a bloated unneeded mess. Then the fact that most of them are completely tedious doesn't help.

Game has some amazing visuals and some of the fights can be quite fun, but I'm really struggling to continue playing.

Edit note: I'm including endgame in the too easy category.

Unfortunately for this game, the level 50 flood and massive RNG grind is going to kill the playerbase as more and more people reach that point. Especially since the game is free.

[RJboxer]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Orbert:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Drunio:

Yeah. I hit the wall of too much random **** in the game with the ships/islands. Almost made me quit.

I feel like the problem is that the game is overall too easy. Theres no compelling "need" to do anything other than level as fast as you can and then raise your ilvl as fast as you can.

If the game was actually difficult maybe we'd feel compelled to actually learn all of the systems and make use of them. As is the vast majority of game features feel like a bloated unneeded mess. Then the fact that most of them are completely tedious doesn't help.

Game has some amazing visuals and some of the fights can be quite fun, but I'm really struggling to continue playing.

Edit note: I'm including endgame in the too easy category.

What I level are you and have you done phantom palace? The game is deft not easy at end game

dont feed the fake trolls. hes a private level zero account. He has a level 20 character max.. He has no idea what hes talking about. Any noob who says "the game is easy" post 50, is obviously lying. you can move on.

I constantly carry people through 340 and 420 raids. CONSTANTLY.. LIKE DOZENS OF TIMES A DAY, after spending 10 hours in chat, answering questions. Because the game AINT easy.

And thats just the FIRST bosses lmao.

Im terrified of t3 bosses. And people still can't do the 420????? lmao. yeah the game aint easy. First clue is a Private level 0 steam troll account, Second is when they says its easy. You can automatically know is a BS post.

Move along, nothing to see here.

[forcecomdr]

There's nothing wrong with in depth systems. Although some games feel like their being complicated just for complications sake. Owww look at us... look at how many systems we have!. If you have to watch hours of guides to know wtf you're doing, the game is badly designed.

Anyway, it's not that the systems exist, it's how they present them.
This game is a walking / cutscene simulator for 25 lvls. You just walk along rolling your face across the KB, then suddenly, out of no where...

BAM. Here's 46 things you NEED to know and each one has super rare mats so don't waste them!
Oh and by the way, don't screw them up. you can really mess up your character. (they actually say that as i recall)

I felt the same way as OP. Every time i finished looking at one system, there was another one. I went from enjoying the game, to feeling like i had no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clue what was going on almost instantly.

[Mac]

Thank you for all your answer. I will take my time, no rush, to learn everything at a healthy pace.
I just want to add that I actually love "grindy stuff". I love to grind for weeks, months and etc.
I just don't like "far-fetched" features or bad presented, confusing and convoluted.
So far ability stone + engraving was the really confusing one... But tomorrow I will go on a deep research on google/sites and etc... I just got frustrated today and mentally tired of the overloaded information and features but after I rest I will ace it hehehe.
I AM in fact LOVING this game and I believe I will not quit.

[Malfeasance]

I agree that everything is like an avalanche when it's brought to you. Don't worry, that does stop.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Junk Yard Dog:

For me its often a distrust of the system.
Like games like these, and mobile games will be like here's this cool resource to play with. Give you a short demo of how it works and then almost encourage you to burn it.

There are a few things I wish I would have done that related to this, like holding onto all my roster bound chests until I'd decided on a main. 45% healing pots, flares, grenades, engravings, etc. It feels bad having this stuff essentially sit on what you thought would be your main. It is what it is though; better to find a much more fun class to play and lose some stuff than be miserable.

[Xype]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Mac:

I just got to lvl 30 and ok, the stronghold is "fine"..., but I also noticed the book of coordination, there were no explanation on this...
Than I also could notice market + auction house... And I thought initially they were the same thing, but it seems they are not and I got really lazy to read, and read, and read all these new features :S that are appearing non-stop...
And guild donation and rewards, and ability stone + engraving (didn't understand the engraving one)... and ships, and etc, etc, etc.
I know a lot of MMORPG has like a lot of things, but I just feel some stuff were not very well introduced and were pushed and rushed between lvl 27~30 a bit too much?

It was the first time the game overwhelmed me and made me want to stop playing it because of the overloaded stuff I got today. And I believe there are much more to come. :S

Anyone also felt this way?

Edit: The game is amazing though, btw.

It is a matter of walking into the game after years of updates and additions. Koreans got it trickled in, in small doses. Try walking into Lotro today after all of these years and see how confusing the legendary system and stuff is.