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ToryJJ Feb 18, 2022 @ 9:33am
Whoever personally worked on tytalos
I want to see you fight this boss on item level with other devs.
It's actually pathetic how poorly designed this boss is.
Do you guys even test your own game? Jesus..
For one the red color he's supposed to get for a wipe is applied to most abilities so its hard to tell which "sucking sand is bad" moment so i can apply the buff.
On top of that.. imagine if someone had any sort of color blindness?
Wheres the OBVIOUS RAID WIDE SOUND EFFECT TO GIVE PEOPLE A WARNING?
on top of the tornados moving into dangerous areas so stacking the debuff means you could just die to one his 3-4 other wipe mechanics (exploding balls.. sands that roll through the ground) while trying to avoid the raid wide.
This boss is so horribely RNG just like the upgrade system I can see why the games under 70% approval.
This ♥♥♥♥♥ literally designed by people who probably never fought their own creations.
It's actually designed in a way to waste your time for no reasonother then simply bad luck with how the mechanics roll out.
Take a page from mmorpgs that design decent raids and make stuff clear but punishing if you fail.
Not "oops mechanics over lapped this time because it moves around in an rng way thats impossible to play around"
Why not just make the tornados sit on the right/left side of the boss at all times so that way they are in the same spot and follow him around when he moves but always returning to those positions?
that way you can prepare for the mechanic by getting close to the boss and roughly timing it because it happens after the buff falls off you from doing it the first time.
There.
Now your boss has some kind of mechanic that isn't RNG based and is consistant while still requring the raid to "group here for X"
Damn..
What awful design..
It's actually sad how bad it is.
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Anrchist Feb 25, 2022 @ 6:34pm 
Yeah this boss is holding up people with over 1000 ilvl on my server, mechanics are buggy as hell.
Hysocs Feb 25, 2022 @ 6:37pm 
after earthquake he does the wipe mechanic normally 2 moves after. rarely 3.

the tornado freezes you after you get hit 3 times and the hits stick. so your goal is to hold 1-2 stacks then when he charges the wipe mechanic you grab the last one and get immune. it isnt that hard

i do agree that the tornadoes shouldn't move around and CHASE YOU at certain points makes it super annoying
Last edited by Hysocs; Feb 25, 2022 @ 6:39pm
Orbert Feb 25, 2022 @ 6:41pm 
git gud
Feb 25, 2022 @ 6:56pm 
do it solo much easier
Partyrock Feb 25, 2022 @ 7:06pm 
Very dumb fight. 1/100 attempts solo might be successful. Not sure I have the patience. Pugging is out of the question.

Best way might be to cheese him using the ladder to go up or down when he starts casting. But even that is super difficult. Easier if you have a fully over geared party that is all on the same page with the ladder trick. But again, that would still be difficult.

But yeah, to really be able to get to the tornadoes in time you would need to save your roll, or get lucky that you end up on the correct side of him. Either way means that you can't be using your dodge roll for most of the time.

Just a dumb design.
Last edited by Partyrock; Feb 25, 2022 @ 7:10pm
EMCM Magellan Feb 25, 2022 @ 7:21pm 
Originally posted by Tory:
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I can see you are angry. Have you considered addressing this with the creators of this encounter, specifically Smilegate?
ode2dave Feb 25, 2022 @ 7:28pm 
I tried it solo - 990 gearscore - got him down to 17% before I got wiped for the 3rd time. Its super annoying RNG. Original poster is correct. But now that I've gotten that close, maybe a little higher gearscore will let me push thru. Stupid though I can't do any more guardian raids until I get this guy down.
JustSmile Feb 25, 2022 @ 7:36pm 
He literally has one "gathering energy from all around while crouched" move and he uses it exclusively 2-4 attacks after earthquake stomp. It's trivial to avoid. The rock bombs are annoying, but that's all they are, just gotta learn to watch out for them specifically. I think it's literally the first guardian that requires any actual strategy, just learn how to do him instead of coming to cry on the forums that bashing your face is not working.
Last edited by JustSmile; Feb 25, 2022 @ 7:37pm
Celestial Feb 25, 2022 @ 7:43pm 
Originally posted by Tory:
I want to see you fight this boss on item level with other devs.
It's actually pathetic how poorly designed this boss is.
Do you guys even test your own game? Jesus..
For one the red color he's supposed to get for a wipe is applied to most abilities so its hard to tell which "sucking sand is bad" moment so i can apply the buff.
On top of that.. imagine if someone had any sort of color blindness?
Wheres the OBVIOUS RAID WIDE SOUND EFFECT TO GIVE PEOPLE A WARNING?
on top of the tornados moving into dangerous areas so stacking the debuff means you could just die to one his 3-4 other wipe mechanics (exploding balls.. sands that roll through the ground) while trying to avoid the raid wide.
This boss is so horribely RNG just like the upgrade system I can see why the games under 70% approval.
This ♥♥♥♥♥ literally designed by people who probably never fought their own creations.
It's actually designed in a way to waste your time for no reasonother then simply bad luck with how the mechanics roll out.
Take a page from mmorpgs that design decent raids and make stuff clear but punishing if you fail.
Not "oops mechanics over lapped this time because it moves around in an rng way thats impossible to play around"
Why not just make the tornados sit on the right/left side of the boss at all times so that way they are in the same spot and follow him around when he moves but always returning to those positions?
that way you can prepare for the mechanic by getting close to the boss and roughly timing it because it happens after the buff falls off you from doing it the first time.
There.
Now your boss has some kind of mechanic that isn't RNG based and is consistant while still requring the raid to "group here for X"
Damn..
What awful design..
It's actually sad how bad it is.

That's one huge rant dude.

I soloed that guy, wasn't that hard.
Only wipe mechanic is the AOE, where you just hide in the sand.

That guy is called the Noobie Shredder for a reason, all Rank 4 Guardian bosses are gate keepers, so only the accomplished can enter the next set of Bosses.

Wait till you fight Achates, some of you will cry, I wiped so many times before finding a good group for the mechanic.

I myself am getting ready for Alberhastic 1080 IL.

And if you can't even kill Tytalos with a much higher required IL, you are not ready for the next Gate Keeper.
Last edited by Celestial; Feb 25, 2022 @ 7:55pm
Partyrock Feb 25, 2022 @ 8:01pm 
Originally posted by Azure Tempest:
Originally posted by Tory:
Wait till you fight Achates, some of you will cry, I wiped so many times before finding a good group for the mechanic.
To each their own I guess. That fight is cake walk in comparison and doesn't involve timing and balancing rolls like Tytalos. Just pick up a block that matches the shield color. Whoever gets red and white flags over their heads, just stack up together and wait. GG

Of course, the final abyssal t3 boss puts all these to shame.
Last edited by Partyrock; Feb 25, 2022 @ 8:03pm
I am of the colorblind and this boss be crazy hard, so I'm not sure how you all manage to beat him, he keeps AOE wipeing.
Celestial Feb 25, 2022 @ 8:07pm 
Originally posted by Partyrock:
Originally posted by Azure Tempest:
To each their own I guess. That fight is cake walk in comparison and doesn't involve timing and balancing rolls like Tytalos. Just pick up a block that matches the shield color. Whoever gets red and white flags over their heads, just stack up together and wait. GG

Of course, the final abyssal t3 boss puts all these to shame.

Ok, Level 0 Private Account.
Bloodyboo12 Feb 25, 2022 @ 8:11pm 
fight is beyond easy
ToryJJ Feb 25, 2022 @ 8:18pm 
Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡❤:
do it solo much easier
That's actually how I beat it lol
ToryJJ Feb 25, 2022 @ 8:19pm 
Originally posted by ♥ RubyRose ♥:
I am of the colorblind and this boss be crazy hard, so I'm not sure how you all manage to beat him, he keeps AOE wipeing.
I'm sorry, my heart goes out to you. It's clear the devs didn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about visual clarity for most of the content in the game that they deam "raid" content.
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Date Posted: Feb 18, 2022 @ 9:33am
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