Just read about the pvp hacking?

[seven]

I'm a bit confused, I thought the 10 minute launch time to the game was because of the anti cheat software, so I'm just wondering how people are, uh, using cheats? I really enjoy lost ark despite it's MANY shortcomings, and I'd continue to play even with no changes even though I think there needs to be many, but hacking/exploiting is 100% unacceptable, it makes the entire progression system (as flawed as that is already) totally meaningless, as well as renders every hour you've put into this game, wasted. Imagine spending several thousand hours getting as good as you can only to play against people who have a cheat and can stomp you? (I suck at pvp so I don't queue ranked anyway) but why would I continue to try and get better in unranked if there's just going to be cheaters in the ranked queues? If it's not fixed soon that's probably the end of this game, and even though I'll probably still do a bit of pve and just never pvp, it's only a matter of time until the scripting and cheats make their way into pve too, which will render all earned/paid progression meaningless.

Also, people are ruining area chat with giant text where 1 word takes up the entire chat screen, which is another issue entirely.

[seven]

Originally posted by RealReality:

10 minute launch time?? You do realize when you way over blow anything it makes you look pretty unreliable for anything but garbage you make up. If it takes 10 minutes to load its your ♥♥♥♥ computer im about 100% sure your just making up numbers to fit your half ass argument though.

its a slight over exaggeration, get over yourself, it's an abnormally long startup time for any game in 2022, especially considering it's caused by the anti cheat system which is clearly not working as intended.

As far as WoW having plenty of "Hacks" and "Exploits", there hasn't been any widely used exploit or player hack that people have been to able to abuse in arena or pve outside of maybe a few top guilds who are pushing content the first few days it's released, so it's totally plausible to find a few along the way, which are promptly fixed or dealt with, and in most cases, those players are being banned.

There are people rampant in area chat in lost ark spamming gigantic messages that are worse than gold spam bots, and the cheating in pvp has been happening for days now with what seems to be little to no consequences.

Also, my opinion is invalid because i exaggerated the launch time from 2-3 minutes to 10 minutes, I can't think of any reason to say something so stupid unless you couldn't actually think of a valid point to make so you started grasping at straws.

[seven]

Originally posted by G4M5T3R:

Bruh WoW has had no shortage of cheats/exploits over the years. Google it.

To further expand on your point, the latest "exploit" I can think of, is recently in shadowlands when a mob dropped a random item that did a large amount of aoe damage in the sanguine area and players were using it to push high level keys by pulling the first entire row of sanguine depths and a few other dungeons if they could figure out how, use the item and clear the key. That's probably the MOST widely used exploit available to the general public of wow players that I have seen in almost a decade, and even then it gave very little advantage because most of the people who could abuse it appropriately were already in the top percentile for m+ players so while it was infact an exploit and gave an advantage, the players in question abusing it were already top percentile so if anything they were simply improving on their own key time, it didn't really diminish the gameplay for other players.

I'd like to hear an exploitable ARENA bug that was abused by players if you know of one? Since Lost ark's issue is mostly pvp related at the moment in reference to exploiting.

[XExarKunX]

Originally posted by bLaze':

Originally posted by seven:

I'm a bit confused, I thought the 10 minute launch time to the game was because of the anti cheat software, so I'm just wondering how people are, uh, using cheats? I really enjoy lost ark despite it's MANY shortcomings, and I'd continue to play even with no changes even though I think there needs to be many, but hacking/exploiting is 100% unacceptable, it makes the entire progression system (as flawed as that is already) totally meaningless, as well as renders every hour you've put into this game, wasted. Imagine spending several thousand hours getting as good as you can only to play against people who have a cheat and can stomp you? (I suck at pvp so I don't queue ranked anyway) but why would I continue to try and get better in unranked if there's just going to be cheaters in the ranked queues? If it's not fixed soon that's probably the end of this game, and even though I'll probably still do a bit of pve and just never pvp, it's only a matter of time until the scripting and cheats make their way into pve too, which will render all earned/paid progression meaningless.

Also, people are ruining area chat with giant text where 1 word takes up the entire chat screen, which is another issue entirely.

every game has anticheats, every game has cheaters.
the world did not find a solution to cheaters yet.
you wont find a game without them.

This is why i usually play console...Still has cheaters sure, but far less of them and are pretty rare. Like you may never see one and just read about them kinda rare lol.