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rapi Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:05am
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Please provide local prices and local servers for Turkish users.
I know you guys have a lot of resistance to IP blocks.

However, to solve this problem, providing Turkish servers and local prices for Turkish accounts is the solution.

Of course, the Gold Exchange for Turkey, AH.

Good Turks have no reason to lose money.
They will be responsible for the evil users on the Turkish server.

Apply local pricing to lower prices and provide independent local servers.
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Daxidol Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:14am 
You're not asking for a Turk server, you're asking for a Turk region.

You're not locked into a server within a region, you can freely access different servers and premium currency is tied to your account, not the server you select within any given region. I can freely swap between RU servers.

What you're proposing would be LA-KR, LA-RU, LA-JP, LA-NA/EU and LA-TR. At the very least, what you advocate for would require a full refund of every Turk purchase so far and a new licencing agreement between Smilegate and whatever publisher you're advocating for with this new region.

Do you not think that Turks might want the opportunity to play on a server that has their non-Turk friends?
rapi Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:25am 
Originally posted by Daxidol:
You're not asking for a Turk server, you're asking for a Turk region.

You're not locked into a server within a region, you can freely access different servers and premium currency is tied to your account, not the server you select within any given region. I can freely swap between RU servers.

What you're proposing would be LA-KR, LA-RU, LA-JP, LA-NA/EU and LA-TR. At the very least, what you advocate for would require a full refund of every Turk purchase so far and a new licencing agreement between Smilegate and whatever publisher you're advocating for with this new region.

Do you not think that Turks might want the opportunity to play on a server that has their non-Turk friends?

You're right.

It is a mistake to say that I am a local server.

Turkey region server is required.
Moen Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:26am 
You'll be like 3 turks to play this game anyway :feste:
Ryko Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:32am 
If steam enforced a rule where regional pricing was available and make people provide ID to buy, limit their purchase to 1 per payment option, per household, and so on. This situation would probably never happen.
Daxidol Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:34am 
Originally posted by rapi:
Originally posted by Daxidol:
You're not asking for a Turk server, you're asking for a Turk region.

You're not locked into a server within a region, you can freely access different servers and premium currency is tied to your account, not the server you select within any given region. I can freely swap between RU servers.

What you're proposing would be LA-KR, LA-RU, LA-JP, LA-NA/EU and LA-TR. At the very least, what you advocate for would require a full refund of every Turk purchase so far and a new licencing agreement between Smilegate and whatever publisher you're advocating for with this new region.

Do you not think that Turks might want the opportunity to play on a server that has their non-Turk friends?

You're right.

It is a mistake to say that I am a local server.

Turkey region server is required.

I don't think a Turk region would be a smart move, but that's on yous to advocate for if that's what you want I guess.

Take a step back and ask yourself if you really want to exclude Turkey from the rest of the world over a Founders pack that no one will care about in 6 months?

Are you confident that everyone from Turkey would be happy at not being able to play with friends outside of Turkey? We've only got a few Turks in our Guild, but I know that at least they would be devastated at being forced onto a tiny server without their Guild.
Chirichaurio Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:35am 
Im not against a turk server to be honest. Ip locked and not able to move to another server for who wants regional pricing. Let them play on EU server with the global price,not able to move to another server. Let them choice. The question is if a turk server gives enough profits to have it online. Obviously in english,they will not make a translation of the whole game just for them
Last edited by Chirichaurio; Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:37am
rapi Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:36am 
Originally posted by Daxidol:
Originally posted by rapi:

You're right.

It is a mistake to say that I am a local server.

Turkey region server is required.

I don't think a Turk region would be a smart move, but that's on yous to advocate for if that's what you want I guess.

Take a step back and ask yourself if you really want to exclude Turkey from the rest of the world over a Founders pack that no one will care about in 6 months?

Are you confident that everyone from Turkey would be happy at not being able to play with friends outside of Turkey? We've only got a few Turks in our Guild, but I know that at least they would be devastated at being forced onto a tiny server without their Guild.

Compose RC, currency exchange, and AH independently.
Raid is shared.
rapi Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:38am 
Originally posted by Ryko:
If steam enforced a rule where regional pricing was available and make people provide ID to buy, limit their purchase to 1 per payment option, per household, and so on. This situation would probably never happen.
If you go to Reddit, you can see comments that have already abused local prices.

They have purchased a number of accounts, so they cannot be prevented by regulation.
The evil users are thinking of making money from RC exchange.
Last edited by rapi; Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:38am
Daxidol Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:38am 
Originally posted by rapi:
Originally posted by Daxidol:

I don't think a Turk region would be a smart move, but that's on yous to advocate for if that's what you want I guess.

Take a step back and ask yourself if you really want to exclude Turkey from the rest of the world over a Founders pack that no one will care about in 6 months?

Are you confident that everyone from Turkey would be happy at not being able to play with friends outside of Turkey? We've only got a few Turks in our Guild, but I know that at least they would be devastated at being forced onto a tiny server without their Guild.

Compose RC, currency exchange, and AH independently.
Raid is shared.

RU does not share group content with KR, what you're advocating for would not allow for any shared content. You admitted in your last reply that you were advocating for a KR region, not a server.
rapi Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:41am 
Originally posted by Daxidol:
Originally posted by rapi:

Compose RC, currency exchange, and AH independently.
Raid is shared.

RU does not share group content with KR, what you're advocating for would not allow for any shared content. You admitted in your last reply that you were advocating for a KR region, not a server.
The region server runs RC and the product store independently.
Local servers share rads with AH.
(However, gold and goods are not shared between regional servers.)

I suggest combining the concept of region server and region server.

RC and merchandising stores are independent of each other.
The AH is independent.
Raid is shared.

This is the fusion of region + local servers.


I called this concept a local server.
I agree with your concept of region server because you said RC as the concept of region server.
Last edited by rapi; Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:44am
Chirichaurio Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:45am 
They already lost a lot of money,probably 5 or 6 digits number,just by a dumb decisition,or maybe a right idea pretty bad implemented. But well,they saw it doesnt work and still want to keep going with regional pricing. I dont know if was a Smilegate or AmazonGames idea,but dude,everyone on forums saw the flaws except developers, Im pretty worried
Daxidol Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:45am 
Originally posted by rapi:
Originally posted by Daxidol:

RU does not share group content with KR, what you're advocating for would not allow for any shared content. You admitted in your last reply that you were advocating for a KR region, not a server.
The region server runs RC and the product store independently.
Local servers share rads with AH.
(However, gold and goods are not shared between regional servers.)

I suggest combining the concept of region server and region server.

RC and merchandising stores are independent of each other.
The AH is independent.
Raid is shared.

This is the fusion of region + local servers.


I agree with that because I said this concept as a local server, you said RC as a region server concept.

You realise people bid on drops in Raids with Gold right? I'm really starting to think you're advocating for something without understanding the mechanics at all.
rapi Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:52am 
Originally posted by Daxidol:
You realise people bid on drops in Raids with Gold right? I'm really starting to think you're advocating for something without understanding the mechanics at all.

When you're competing for auction elsewhere,
You can proceed by reflecting the weight of each server's goods.

If Turkey's gold value is 1/2 lower than elsewhere, you can provide the system weight considering it.

When Turkey's Gold is provided elsewhere (the Gold's server move), you can apply the Gold Drop.
If you provide 1000 golds of Turkey to other servers, 500 golds will be provided.


The only thing losing out on this dynamic is the evil users who bought the Turkish account.
They cannot sell gold to other servers.
Since Turkish server gold automatically applies the exchange rate, it is reduced and sent.

In fact, I think it will be possible if the exchange rate is provided for the gold conversion of Turkish servers as much as Turkey TL and Euro.
In other words, Turkey Server Gold is a way of constructing different goods called "TLGOLD" and "EUGOLD".


If it really matters, you can tie up the contents of the auction to the region.
Last edited by rapi; Jul 24, 2021 @ 8:04am
Bimbom Jul 24, 2021 @ 11:18am 
Can we give the Turks their own forum already?
Daxidol Jul 24, 2021 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by rapi:
Originally posted by Daxidol:
You realise people bid on drops in Raids with Gold right? I'm really starting to think you're advocating for something without understanding the mechanics at all.

When you're competing for auction elsewhere,
You can proceed by reflecting the weight of each server's goods.

If Turkey's gold value is 1/2 lower than elsewhere, you can provide the system weight considering it.

When Turkey's Gold is provided elsewhere (the Gold's server move), you can apply the Gold Drop.
If you provide 1000 golds of Turkey to other servers, 500 golds will be provided.


The only thing losing out on this dynamic is the evil users who bought the Turkish account.
They cannot sell gold to other servers.
Since Turkish server gold automatically applies the exchange rate, it is reduced and sent.

In fact, I think it will be possible if the exchange rate is provided for the gold conversion of Turkish servers as much as Turkey TL and Euro.
In other words, Turkey Server Gold is a way of constructing different goods called "TLGOLD" and "EUGOLD".


If it really matters, you can tie up the contents of the auction to the region.

So hold up, you want Turks to have to farm 2x as much Gold as non-Turks to bid on loot? Yikes, poor Turks.

Sorry, but I don't support forcing Turks to farm more forever over some Founders packs people wont care about in 6 months time.
Last edited by Daxidol; Jul 24, 2021 @ 11:27am
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