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SantaFurFur 2021년 8월 5일 오전 1시 24분
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[UKRAINE] Not in EU list release and access to Russian Lost Ark version is banned by the government
Ukrainiam government banned LA russian publisher Mail.Ru and we are not in the list for EU release


Dear all, devs, publishers, ladies and gentelmen,

I have a question which is wider but I have not found any Amazon email as a publisher to ask them directly so I`d like to ask this question here because situation might be unknow...

I am from Ukraine and I do really want to play LA. The thing Lost Ark was released in Russian in russian language for this region by Mail.ru publisher - https://la.mail.ru/

Unfortunately, several years ago due to government regulation in Ukraine Mail.ru was banned in Ukraine completely so we can not use this service at all ( as well as vk.com etc...)

I was glad to see that Lost Ark is being released in Europe, however Ukraine is not in the list release countries:

Lost Ark will be available in North America and Europe.*
*CANADA, MEXICO, UNITED STATES, ALAND ISLANDS (FINLAND), ALBANIA, ANDORRA, AUSTRIA, BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA, BULGARIA, CROATIA, CZECH REPUBLIC, DENMARK, FAROE ISLANDS (Denmark), FINLAND, FRANCE, GERMANY, GIBRALTAR (UK), GREECE, GUERNSEY (UK), HOLY SEE, HUNGARY, ICELAND, IRELAND, ISLE OF MAN (UK), ITALY, JERSEY (UK), KOSOVO, LATVIA, LIECHTENSTEIN, LITHUANIA, LUXEMBOURG, MALTA, MONACO, MONTENEGRO, NORTH MACEDONIA, NORWAY, POLAND, PORTUGAL, ROMANIA, SAN MARINO, SERBIA, SLOVAKIA, SLOVENIA, SPAIN, SVALBARD & JAN MAYEN (Norway), SWEDEN, SWITZERLAND, TURKEY, UNITED KINGDOM


So, we can not play on Mail.Ru Lost Ark version due to its banned in Ukraine and we are not part of the EU list.

I do not see EU version on Steam and not able to purchase it.

The only solution I see here is that Ukraine should be added to the list of European countries and be accessable via steam

I do not want to use VPN or any other side related software to play the game.

The intention of this topic is to highlight to Amazon as a publisher that russian version of the game is not available for the whole Ukraine due to govrenment restrictions and we would appreciate adding our country to EU release.
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SimplyRedie 2021년 8월 6일 오전 6시 58분 
Nerdcore님이 먼저 게시:
Roxx님이 먼저 게시:
I appreciate you flagging this, but unfortunately we are unable to resolve this issue.

Regardless of Mail.ru's current operating (or in-operating) ability in Ukraine, Mail.ru still owns the publishing rights to that region via Smilegate, and we do not have any rights to involvement in their partnership or contracts. We are a separate third party in this situation.

I do apologize to players in Ukraine who are affected by this unfortunate circumstance, but it is out of our hands.

Let me suggest... allowing account transfers? Looking at their accounts and cloning them to servers they can play on? Doing anything more than, as the literal publishers of the product saying you cant do anything, would probably be a start lol
With every word you are showing your lack of understanding of the issue. Amazon is not a site in this conflict. They have exactly zero access or say about LA Russia. They are absolutely 3rd party. If anything take your cries to Korean forum of LA.
walentaz 2021년 8월 6일 오전 11시 44분 
exotrax님이 먼저 게시:
PO, do not listen to all these trolls
You can't use VPN because you will need to load the game 1st on steam, and in your country the game wont appear AT ALL.

lol, we're telling to vpn RU version (not this one - EU/NA steam version), like literally everyone else outside of RU, KR, JP playing Lost Ark so far.
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SantaFurFur 2021년 9월 7일 오전 3시 00분 
Roxx님이 먼저 게시:
I appreciate you flagging this, but unfortunately we are unable to resolve this issue.

Regardless of Mail.ru's current operating (or in-operating) ability in Ukraine, Mail.ru still owns the publishing rights to that region via Smilegate, and we do not have any rights to involvement in their partnership or contracts. We are a separate third party in this situation.

I do apologize to players in Ukraine who are affected by this unfortunate circumstance, but it is out of our hands.

Thank you very much for your reply, now I see the full picture and really appreciate that.

One thing is if you can send a message to someone responsible for publishing who can contact Lost Ark devs (in Korea) or Mail Ru as publisher and explain them situation (I am pretty sure they are aware) so in future we would be able to play game on EU normally without any VPNs and additional software.

This situation is not fair to the players and also both publisher lose potential clients / money.

Anyways thats for reply and have a great day.
Jaffa 2021년 9월 7일 오전 3시 24분 
with Exitlag your latency is 10-20ms from Ukraine if you play on RU, it's literally a non-issue + they never banned anyone for using a vpn.
∀zark 2021년 9월 7일 오전 6시 33분 
You guys need to stop acting like VPN is a solution.

VPN IS AGAINST STEAM TOS AND YOU CAN/WILL GET BANNED FOR IT BY STEAM,

I'm sure some of you will say "well I played X game using a VPN and didn't get banned or steam doesn't care", even if that is true, it's a risk. Imagine playing LA for thousands of hours only to suddenly get banned for VPN usage? and you don't just get banned from the game, your steam account gets locked.

"Just make another account then to use VPN?" <- This doesn't stop you from getting banned at any moment and wasting time and money.

The reality is if LA was on any other platform other than steam, then the people who got region blocked won't care because they can just use a VPN (like on all other version of LA), but because it is on Steam and Steam is super Anal about this stuff it's incredibly stressful playing LA knowing at any moment you can get banned, because even if Steam doesn't care you're still violating ToS and Steam can ban you for it when ever they feel like it.

This is why you see people asking about the region block and asking if X region can be included, because we want to play the game without having to worry about losing progress at any moment.
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ラグナ [Aracune] 2021년 9월 8일 오전 3시 36분 
But its true they can at least play other Versions without Steam via VPN, so we just showed them some options...
NoobBerry 2021년 9월 8일 오전 3시 48분 
you dont need mail.ru account to play on RU anymore.
have they banned my games client?
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exotrax 2021년 9월 8일 오후 11시 57분 
I think you guys need to blame Putin !!!
SimplyRedie 2021년 9월 10일 오후 1시 22분 
∀zark님이 먼저 게시:
You guys need to stop acting like VPN is a solution.

VPN IS AGAINST STEAM TOS AND YOU CAN/WILL GET BANNED FOR IT BY STEAM,

Why are you so dense? What part of "Lost-Ark-RU-Is-Not-On-Steam" you don't understand?
EmperorVolo 2021년 9월 10일 오후 4시 48분 
walentaz님이 먼저 게시:
then blame your government. Amazon won't add Ukraine because of that to EU release for two reasons: publishing rights are basically set in stone and they wouldn't be bothering to add Russian or Ukrainian languages for that and that's basically a must for countries using Cyrillic.

Your only option is to continue playing via VPN, like literally rest of the world which was playing on RU and KR servers so far.

Blame his government cause they were invaded by Russia. They logically would block all IPs from Russian hackers that would try to attack the government.

To the OP there is already a Russian translation it probably wouldn't take much work for someone in your own country to do a patch it won't work on the VO but at least it would be something.
EmperorVolo 2021년 9월 10일 오후 4시 52분 
∀zark님이 먼저 게시:
You guys need to stop acting like VPN is a solution.

VPN IS AGAINST STEAM TOS AND YOU CAN/WILL GET BANNED FOR IT BY STEAM,

I'm sure some of you will say "well I played X game using a VPN and didn't get banned or steam doesn't care", even if that is true, it's a risk. Imagine playing LA for thousands of hours only to suddenly get banned for VPN usage? and you don't just get banned from the game, your steam account gets locked.

"Just make another account then to use VPN?" <- This doesn't stop you from getting banned at any moment and wasting time and money.

The reality is if LA was on any other platform other than steam, then the people who got region blocked won't care because they can just use a VPN (like on all other version of LA), but because it is on Steam and Steam is super Anal about this stuff it's incredibly stressful playing LA knowing at any moment you can get banned, because even if Steam doesn't care you're still violating ToS and Steam can ban you for it when ever they feel like it.

This is why you see people asking about the region block and asking if X region can be included, because we want to play the game without having to worry about losing progress at any moment.

It's primarily for the purchasing of games that they ban for. As long as you are not doing anything illegal or purchasing games at a lower price than is in your region it shouldn't be an issue.

As long as he always logs on with VPN and always uses it just for Lost Ark and purchases in a price within his region (EU) it should be find.
A Suspicious Crayon 2021년 9월 11일 오전 8시 50분 
rapi님이 먼저 게시:
The publishing rights to Ukraine are presumed to be held by Mail.ru.
Can Amazon take away the rights of Mail.ru?

Unfortunately they would have to wrestle that out with mail.ru, if They say no than nobody can officially make it available for Ukraine. And considering that mass refunding i doubt Amazon is going to spend the amount mail.ru will ask.
SantaFurFur 2021년 9월 17일 오전 12시 01분 
A Suspicious Crayon님이 먼저 게시:
rapi님이 먼저 게시:
The publishing rights to Ukraine are presumed to be held by Mail.ru.
Can Amazon take away the rights of Mail.ru?

Unfortunately they would have to wrestle that out with mail.ru, if They say no than nobody can officially make it available for Ukraine. And considering that mass refunding i doubt Amazon is going to spend the amount mail.ru will ask.

We will see :)
Garou 2021년 9월 17일 오후 12시 13분 
cant u just join the eu then?
SantaFurFur 2021년 11월 16일 오전 1시 57분 
Garou님이 먼저 게시:
cant u just join the eu then?
Gladly, unfortunately I am not a president :(
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