Are there any difficult classes to play?

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Difficult, complex. A class that rewards investment in understanding it? Or will it boil down to different rotations of 1 2 3 etc?

[Wolfsoldier5]

People say gunslinger/devil hunter is hard to master

[Cyl]

Play something you aren't used to playing . Mainly a melee dps player on other MMOS ? Play ranged . Never got into tanking/supporting ? Play Lancemaster/Paladin/Bard . Your take on " 1 2 3 rotation classes " will be different from other peoples takes on those same classes . But it also depends on what kinda content you wanna do with either pve or pvp . Just like any other game you can't master a class while leveling it , you gotta experiment and see what the best players are choosing so you can deal the most damage .

[DeiGratia]

Arcana is probably the hardest to play effectively. I think the class was getting a pass so maybe not so bad once released

[TheDurante]

Arcana for sure.

[ÉoDouglas]

gunslinger/devil hunter and arcana

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Originally posted by ඞ:

Your take on " 1 2 3 rotation classes " will be different from other peoples takes on those same classes .

Theres always going to be the class where 1 2 3 is going to be the best in any context. 1 2 3 small mobs, 1 2 3 boss, etc. There's going to be a class considered spammy. That's a given if you want class diversity. I want a class that demands either a bit more dexterity or strategy.

As for the recommendations so far, I've also seen people also say soulfist. If anyone's actually played any of these classes in the other regions I'd be interested in hearing your input.

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For a lot of content you can easily just spam whatever you feel hits hardest. But to maximize for bosses raids etc, Arcana or Gunslinger/Devil Hunter are probably the most complex.

Gunslinger/Devil Hunter have three stances, and understanding how to maximize damage windows between the three takes a bit of knowledge. You cycle them a lot as you fight, you can minimize this later if you choose to take the class engraving that locks out one of their stances, both play styles are viable endgame.

Arcana you have a sort of set rotation you'd like, but she has a combo and card system that relies a bit on RNG, you can hold 2 cards at any one time and each one has a different type of buff associated with it, so understanding that layer of her can really set you apart along with a little good luck. It takes time to learn what each one does, and in what ways to use them.

Soul Master isn't really complex, but works on burst windows with their "good" class engraving. The biggest difficulty is not missing your ult, since that is a really nice chunk of their damage. It's fun however if you like big numbers, and working around your big damage cool downs.

If you are only playing NA release, you might look into GS or DH I guess (GS is commonly considered a better DH, but they have different engravings so you may find you prefer one or the other), but all classes have their own nuances and such to learn really. You'll find yourself settling into a desired rotation for harder contents in the end with pretty much anything.

[Kregane]

Devil Hunter is by far harder than Gunslinger which is the softer version.

Both require you to stance dance between 3 weapons but Devil Hunter also require to be behind the boss at melee range so your positioning become way more important on DH.

[goddam minilamb]

I mastered DH over the year I played. The class is super fun and versatile. The only issue is the output. A lot of your damage comes from shotgun skills and you gotta be point blank to maximize the damage. Some fights this really sucks on especially the smaller more mobile bosses. This might have been addressed since I quit but DH damage for the effort required was pure garbage. I could top dps in pug raids and own but when I would compete vs a competent zerker there was no chance. They could easily deal like 5-10% more damage even if I had a near perfect run. There has been many updates so I would like to think this class got fixed lol.

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Hey guys thanks for your answers. Arcana sounds like fun but she isnt coming on release.
Some of you guys use devil hunter/gunslinger interchangably, so i had to google to find out that is the male version. Odd how changing the names made it 10x more confusing. Should have kept the names and let the community come up with a nickname.

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥ minilamb:

This might have been addressed since I quit but DH damage for the effort required was pure garbage. I could top dps in pug raids and own but when I would compete vs a competent zerker there was no chance. They could easily deal like 5-10% more damage even if I had a near perfect run. There has been many updates so I would like to think this class got fixed lol.

That's typically the balance issue with classes that require a bit more. They are either so op it makes everyone else complain because they feel they cant compete with less options. Or they can make you say out loud "Why am I finger breakdancing when this guy is one shotting me/the boss?"

[goddam minilamb]

Originally posted by O'Waters:

That's typically the balance issue with classes that require a bit more. They are either so op it makes everyone else complain because they feel they cant compete with less options. Or they can make you say out loud "Why am I finger breakdancing when this guy is one shotting me/the boss?"

I just wish it woulda done a little bit more damage overall. After playing on a berserker alt it was hard to have motivation to play dh considering how much easier and more forgiving that class was for noticeable more output. What also blew my mind was with proper setup his ultimate would deal more damage than my DH who was like 160 ilvl higher rofl. wtf

Keep in mind this was like over a year ago and tons of updates have happened. I read a bit ago that classes were more balanced from recent updates.

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The only change that I can recall is Demon Hunter got a buff in the form of the weapon swap buff now refreshing on cycle rather than having to manually keep the 9 second timer in mind, similar to the gunslinger engraving, however Korea is the only location with said buff atm. Demon Hunter is really cool, but he is the least played class for a reason, lots of work for similar or even lesser results to other classes, and Gunslinger came out and kind of eclipsed him, fixing most of his issues while retaining a lot of what makes him fun.

Although Gunslinger and Devil Hunter are mirrors, keep in mind they are different as well, they have different engravings which impact how you play that character, while still sharing a lot of abilities. Devil Hunters damage is all in shotgun, he only has one good rifle skill, relies heavily on back position. Gunslinger damage is split between shotgun and rifle, she has tripods that remove the back attack restriction for shotguns, eliminating that need to fight for back space.

Both are good, but provided you have the same level of skill and knowledge, you'll do better as a Gunslinger, just due to quality of life adjustments of being a newer class, and better engraving/tripod choices.