Fuel Efficiency of old excavators / trucks vs new ones?

[rightfn]

OK, it's obvious that newer excavators and trucks will mine and deliver things at a greater rate than the older ones.

What I'm wondering is, if I do not need to mine or dig something THAT quickly, is there any reason to keep using my old excavators even if I can afford new ones? Is there a benefit i.e. fuel efficiency?

Curious if anyone has done a study on this recently.

[Graf Schokola]

You dont have to exchange your old excavators and truck for new. - They dont age.

When you compare T1 vs T2 and T2 vs T3. - Yes the higher tier are better. But I prefer to have some T2 and T3 trucks. (Some for efficient and some some fast deliveries.)

When you compare diesel vs hydrogen vehicles. - I never tried hydrogen vehicles.

[pete1051]

I have gone over to 100% hydrogen, well worth it.
Once you have all the refinery stuff, you can convert diesel to hydrogen.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229489959

And with enough power, use electrolysis to make rainwater hydrogen fuel stations, it takes the load off the refinery and keeps trucks topped off around the map.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229489718

I love the new hydrogen trucks.

But no matter what, T2-T3 there will be a noticeable jump in fuel consumption, prepare ahead of upgrading. Not so much of a jump upgrading T1-T2 though.

T2 was when I started phasing in Hydrogen. A little at a time to make sure the refinery keeps up.

[Graf Schokola]

Hydrogen trucks have to refuel 1,5% more ofen than diesel trucks.
So when a diesel truck have to refuel 100 times the hydrogen truck has to refuel 101,5 times.
But diesel trucks need 15% more maintenance.
Speed and payload is the same.

[IronSides]

I JUST WENT THROUGH THIS.

I probably got the better trucks too early (by trading red constructions for glass) but I replaced my entire fleet pretty much.

Im very early-mid game probably... I only had the basic setup for Diesel stage 1 and 2. so after replacing all my trucks my fuel stocks ran out fast.

So I can say for sure that they use a lot more fuel than the baby trucks.

I do have things kinda optimized like fuel stations nearby the most work, and belts on as much as I can. it's not like im wasting the fuel.

I re-built them for 3 of the setups and got the tanker lvl 2 bringing oil and things are back to normal.

I am also curious as to how much maintain you save by paving I tried to do some areas but water is precious ATM (I am about to do thermal de-salt) but I dont wanna waste water making extra concrete if its not really worth paving.

[pete1051]

Originally posted by Graf Schokola:

Hydrogen trucks have to refuel 1,5% more ofen than diesel trucks.
So when a diesel truck have to refuel 100 times the hydrogen truck has to refuel 101,5 times.
But diesel trucks need 15% more maintenance.
Speed and payload is the same.

Hydrogen trucks also provide less of a pollution penalty on health. By keeping my pollution low, I have not needed to set up healthcare yet (currently building room for sugar cane farms).
With low pollution, a health score of 30 or more, I can survive the deadliest flus. The only reason to set up the health clinics is to get the unity bonus.

So, Hydrogen is better to use when you can. As well as stay on top of all other pollution. The game rewards well for keeping clean.

[pete1051]

Originally posted by IronSides:

I JUST WENT THROUGH THIS.

I probably got the better trucks too early (by trading red constructions for glass) but I replaced my entire fleet pretty much.

Im very early-mid game probably... I only had the basic setup for Diesel stage 1 and 2. so after replacing all my trucks my fuel stocks ran out fast.

So I can say for sure that they use a lot more fuel than the baby trucks.

I do have things kinda optimized like fuel stations nearby the most work, and belts on as much as I can. it's not like im wasting the fuel.

I re-built them for 3 of the setups and got the tanker lvl 2 bringing oil and things are back to normal.

I am also curious as to how much maintain you save by paving I tried to do some areas but water is precious ATM (I am about to do thermal de-salt) but I dont wanna waste water making extra concrete if its not really worth paving.

T3 'huge' trucks are thirsty.

But if your goal is to fill areas, they are quite necessary. I do a lot off the coastline for docks.

[pete1051]

Upgraded my Rain station.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3230341240

It fills the buffer, then can be switched off til empty.
The trucks essentially run on electricity, however you generate it.

I have a couple of these in high traffic areas. It takes load off the refinery, since I put these in, all my oil, diesel, coal, hydrogen supplies stay topped off.

I am sold on this new vehicle fuel !!! I'm the hydro-cheerleader now, lol.