Connecting Water pipes needs reworked

[꧁ logAnmalONE ꧂]

I've been trying to connect water pipes for 45 minutes and its more complex than it should be. It's not straight forward and intuitive, but plain confusing. Without a proper in-game tutorial, its frustrating at the least. Other games don't make the same exact process so convoluted so why was it designed this way?

[Drunken Eagle]

...what are you talking about?

RED OUUTPPUT >PIPE DIRECTION> GREEN INPUT

Same with everything else.

[helmey112]

Originally posted by Drunken Eagle:

...what are you talking about?

...

+1

Building pipes works very well. Please describe your problem.
Pipes are one way like belts (and are not only for water but also for all fluids and gases).

[Tankfriend]

Output slots are an arrow pointing away from a building.
Input slots are an arrow pointing into the building.
All transport mechanisms are one-way and also have arrow-like markings on them that show direction of flow, and you can change direction if you click on a transport mechanism and then click on the corresponding button.
The game also normally tries to snap to other transport mechanisms of the same type that are close by, though auto-snapping can be enabled/disabled on the fly with the press of a button.

So what exactly are you having a problem with? A screenshot would help a lot.

[CrazyOdd]

Belts and pipes, works the same way, when building. The game give a logistic intro, so should be explained.

[manfred.stabentheiner]

you can make an T junktion from 2 rainwather ..but you cant go from on rainwather to the other rainwather
if you build 2 rainwatherfarms and let 3 between the 2 rainwathers ..you need go out with one pipe and when this is done you need go with the 2 pipe into the first pipe to make an T junktion

[helmey112]

Originally posted by lOgAnmalONE:

Originally posted by Tankfriend:

So what exactly are you having a problem with? A screenshot would help a lot.

Essentially trying to make a "T" junction between two Rainwater Harvesters in a perpendicular configuration to one another. The pipe keeps bending when I get near the other pipe and or shows a red color meaning the pipe can't connect. If you can't connect to fluid pipes at a 90 degree or at 180 degrees using a connector, then something is not working correctly in my game (has the most recent build from the devs).

You mean so?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2845587662

[helmey112]

As manfred.stabentheiner told you, you can not connect an output to a output.

I have learnt this configuration thru try and error. First put the rainwater collectors,
then run a pipe TO one of the rainwater collectors, then start from there with the next pipe.
Delete the starting pipe for T-junction. Maybe you have to toggle direction of the pipes after build.

[tr4l1975]

If you have empty space somewhere on your map, go into build mode (press B key) then build 1 long pipe ( 2-3 tiles) then connect a 1-2 tile pipes in a plus sign pattern to both sides (creates 4 way connector). Then delete the unneeded parts, this should leave the 4 way by itself, which you can then copy and paste later wherever you need it.

[Kaery]

Also be aware that these junctions do not play well with splitters. And you can't place them side by side. Sooo... If in doubt, or the game is resisting you... Put one tile of belt/pipe between the junction and whatever you're trying to connect to.

I know, one always wants to compress designs as much as possible. But a more open design can look good also.

[KhisanthMagus]

Pipes and belts occasionally do weird stuff, They'll try to take odd paths, or really dislike lining up a connection but overall they are quite straight forward and easily visible when it comes to their limitations. There are messages saying it's an invalid connection when you try to run from one output to another output directly instead of laying the pipe and then connecting the other output to it or the "can't connect to ramp" warning (something like that) when connecting to a slope. Generally when I can't figure out why something won't connect it's due to my own stupidity. I've failed to realize I'm trying to connect something illogical anyway or that I selected the wrong belt/pipe or connection spot.

Since belts and pipes have directions being able to drag into an output or out of an input is illogical and can't function. If you point the pipe into the machine it obviously can't run out of the machine so the restriction makes total sense. Placing the pipe in that order would just get the material stuck in the machine as the output met the input pipe/belt that ends up facing backward. I sometimes use that when I need a bunch of something I'm not making enough of to have a stockpile already. Just hit "toggle direction" and point it back into the storage or if I only need a little extra to truck somewhere back into the machine to fill it's buffer space. You can only do that after a pipe is connected correctly when it's built though or the game will let you know it's invalid and will not add/remove material from the machine.

The problem is many games with piping or belts let you place them where ever and if they don't work when done you have to figure out why because many games like this have even less messages of things malfunctioning. That's what most people are used to with these types of games and expect the flexibility to be able to do and fix the details after they are done laying it out.

Freedom to lay pipe/belts any direction you want into any part of a machine is fine if you did actually plan it out correctly and you are going to keep building and toggling pipe/belt directions until everything flows to a destination. If you didn't plan it correctly and missed an input/output marking, get distracted and fail to give a destination,or don't notice the direction the arrow on pipes or lines on the belt are facing then complete freedom of placement results in many people failing to realize something isn't working until their city/base falls apart and is potentially unrecoverable.

I'm sure even some of the best factorio style players have at some point sat around troubleshooting for 30+ mins over something dumb that should have been obvious it wouldn't work but the game let them do it anyway. This game prevents placement when the initial layout would not work so you realize you are placing things in the wrong order. It also does have warning messages even if they might sometimes seem too vague for some people.

Also remember ctrl will cause a pipe/belt to look for an alternative route when laying out transport that needs to make turns or go between things.

[AnonymouS]

There is a quick way to solve everything,
Just build on plain and copy the pipe to where you want it to be.
It help ignore all trouble with snapping.

#Also work for belts

after you are familiar with the rules, use R and shift and ctrl to build the pipe.

for ramp tutorial, try to build on plain to check how long it need to go up or down
#The ramp length for pipe is shorter than belt

If you want to master a factory game and build those compact design, you always need to test how connection works. I think it is very normal?

[juanxlink]

No it does not, try learning how it works perhaps?

[helmey112]

You are welcome.

[GameOverRIP]

Originally posted by lOgAnmalONE:

Originally posted by Tankfriend:

So what exactly are you having a problem with? A screenshot would help a lot.

Essentially trying to make a "T" junction between two Rainwater Harvesters in a perpendicular configuration to one another. The pipe keeps bending when I get near the other pipe and or shows a red color meaning the pipe can't connect. If you can't connect to fluid pipes at a 90 degree or at 180 degrees using a connector, then something is not working correctly in my game (has the most recent build from the devs).

Just make a pipe running from the source to one of the resevoirs and then connect the second pipe from where the bend is. Simple.

You can't connect to ramps however, it has to be a flat spot and if there is another connection/join too close it wont let you make another

[ostlandr]

Oh! Yeah, I had that happen too. Can't connect two OUT pipes to each other. I solved it by building a short section of unconnected pipe, then connecting each of the OUT pipes to it.

Originally posted by lOgAnmalONE:

Originally posted by Tankfriend:

So what exactly are you having a problem with? A screenshot would help a lot.

Essentially trying to make a "T" junction between two Rainwater Harvesters in a perpendicular configuration to one another. The pipe keeps bending when I get near the other pipe and or shows a red color meaning the pipe can't connect. If you can't connect to fluid pipes at a 90 degree or at 180 degrees using a connector, then something is not working correctly in my game (has the most recent build from the devs).