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vukotlak 6 DIC 2022 a las 5:17 a. m.
do you enjoy GmGoW difficulty?
So i played through 2018 GmGoW on my ps4. While it was fun for the challange i got the feeling the gameplay it self was actualy pretty annoing.

Now i am doing it with ragnarok and it is even worse.

Especialy the high resistence against "stagger" is very annyoing. You are basicly forced to constantly dodge around and run through the arena and do occasionaly slashes. Kinda like a sting of the bee fighting style.

The problem is this gets pretty tedious and it actualy frustrates me that you barely can finish a normal combo on an enemie.

As i say i like the challenge. I don't mind to do an encounter 20 times. But there is something quoet infuriating in GmGoW. I just whish i could sometimes do a full combo or anything just to get this hack and slash feeling. But i am 90% of the time jumping and dodging around like a tasmanian devil on speed. It was a often a problem in 2018 but not constantly. But i feel in raganrok it is absolutly omnipresent. Even the most simple draugr will refuse to flinch when you hit him and if you dare to throw a combo he will just hit you inbetween and take away 2/3 of your hp.

What you guys think anyone got the same feelings or are you happy as it is.

As i said i finished GmGow 2018 so ofc i enjoyed it. But i have to say playing on hard was a lot more fun.
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Hotel Security 6 DIC 2022 a las 8:17 a. m. 
Before we begin, yes Xeno, we know you won't read this. No, we're not impressed at your dedication to ignorance. You wouldn't understand the strategies anyway.

>Vuko
>Honestly i can understand some of the crap beeing thrown at you.


Well, when he flips out and calls people noobs just for questioning his ideas then, yes, it should be understandable.

>If you wanna boost your coutube channel i got no problem with it.

Who says that's his channel?

>But coming here into an unrelated threat of some other person and spamming youtube videos is rude.

Not to mention him going on a rant about how everyone on these forums are stupid.

>Also i have watched 2 videos of those. And i see gow Gameplay and at no point this "gameplay" is going to tell me what you think about GoW.

Because he just wants to show off and pretend he's some expert. You spam a bunch of videos that no one will watch and he hopes the sheer number of links will make us conclude that's he's an expert. He's desperate. His insane reaction to me calling him shows how sensitive he is about it.

>You basicly killed a bunch of guys while using every tool available. (spartan rage, perks, talisman,

Yes, which is how basically everyone plays because you'd be foolish to not just spam all the OP attacks in every fight. That's kind of a problem with the combat in general.

>My point was that while the challange was "fun" the actual gameplay was more enjoyable on hard as it was more hack and slash and less tool abusing.

To an extent, but I felt this doesn't really blossom until late in the game and spamming cooldowns and rage was still a bit part of it, especially to keep enemies from upgrading their level.

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XENO
>With another noob out of the way,

You ignored and ran from literally every point I made. Or is this referring to you putting me on ignore like the coward you are?

>Throwing the axe is the key here. You can light throw the axe onto draugr's feet to trip them down, or light throw the axe onto their face to turn them around,

THAT'S your big expert tip? Throwing the axe? All this talk of noobs and you lay out the noobiest advice ever?

>Combined with the two aspects, you can either stagger enemies first before doing combos,

If you're staggering the enemies, then why aren't you using a grab move to finish them off?

No it's not, as explained above.

Having to dodge between a combo is not solving the issue, hon.

>but as explained above, you can always finish your combo in one way or the other

Yet the videos rarely show this and it's just spamming cooldowns and talismans like everyone else does.

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VUKO
Instead of doing a normal combo even for smallest trash mobes you need to do some tricks to handle em. I never said it's impossible. I said it is tedious.

The held-R1 attack from behind an enemy is a great stagger tool. Sadly the problem is trying to manuever behind them and not turn during the move. I find Hel's Touch was pretty nice to stagger them from behind to setup the attack and it's one of the first runics you get. Sadly, this doesn't help with the tedious part but it's something else to shoot for, especially early on.

>Do you realy think you need to explain basics to a guy who has beaten the valkyr on GmGow+

The basics are all he has.
Última edición por Hotel Security; 6 DIC 2022 a las 8:22 a. m.
XenoAliens 6 DIC 2022 a las 8:21 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por vukotlak:
Publicado originalmente por XenoAliens:

As my videos shown about, there's nothing resistent against stagger about those enemies. Ofc your normal R1 spam won't do the trick.

So they are infact more resistent? I know you can still stagger them with certain attacks. That was my point. Instead of doing a normal combo even for smallest trash mobes you need to do some tricks to handle em. I never said it's impossible. I said it is tedious.

Publicado originalmente por XenoAliens:
The combo part ok, the combos in official combo list aren't all the combos in the game. For example, normally you do R1 x 4 to get that finisher, but actually you can do R2 x 2 + R1 + R1 and get the same finisher as well.

Do you realy think you need to explain basics to a guy who has beaten the valkyr

The problem is this gets pretty tedious and it actualy frustrates me that you barely can finish a normal combo on an enemie.
Publicado originalmente por XenoAliens:
No it's not, as explained above.

yes it is. Listen to your own words man...

Publicado originalmente por XenoAliens:

As my videos shown about, there's nothing resistent against stagger about those enemies. Ofc your normal R1 spam won't do the trick.

Oh I thought this OP said he likes challenge but after all when the game asks him to do slightly more tricks he just starts complaining. Fine, be the noob as you are aspired to be and keep telling yourself you really like challenges if that can trick you into falling asleep

Yeah yeah beating the queen beating the queen like that alone is even a challenge these days now KEKW
Última edición por XenoAliens; 6 DIC 2022 a las 8:22 a. m.
vukotlak 6 DIC 2022 a las 8:24 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por XenoAliens:
Oh I thought this OP said he likes challenge but after all when the game asks him to do slightly more tricks he just starts complaining. Fine, be the noob as you are aspired to be and keep telling yourself you really like challenges if that can trick you into falling asleep

honestly i thought hotel security was overexxagerating but in fact he is not. You are realy some special kind of steam user.

Holy hell. Now pls there is the door don't bump your head on the way out.
Hotel Security 6 DIC 2022 a las 8:24 a. m. 
>Fine, be the noob as you are

Wow, we're no 2 for 2 with Xeno calling people noobs when his strategies are questioned today. So, you don't have any other moves but declaring people noobs? God, you suck at this.

Do you really think other folks will take your side on this? Everyone sees what you are.

>Yeah yeah beating the queen beating the queen like that alone is even a challenge these days now

You can't even handle an internet discussion without throwing a tantrum. You can't speak to anyone about handling challenge.

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>honestly i thought hotel security was overexxagerating but in fact he is not. You are realy some special kind of steam user.

I was as taken aback as you are. He talks up challenge but then can't handle being a little questioned on these forums.
Última edición por Hotel Security; 6 DIC 2022 a las 8:26 a. m.
XenoAliens 6 DIC 2022 a las 8:26 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por vukotlak:
Publicado originalmente por XenoAliens:
Oh I thought this OP said he likes challenge but after all when the game asks him to do slightly more tricks he just starts complaining. Fine, be the noob as you are aspired to be and keep telling yourself you really like challenges if that can trick you into falling asleep

honestly i thought hotel security was overexxagerating but in fact he is not. You are realy some special kind of steam user.

Holy hell. Now pls there is the door don't bump your head on the way out.

Haha watch out for your heart and brain and I hope you can recover from tonight's share of cerebral haemorrhage soon. As for him, he probably won't suffer from this issue since he forgoes his brain a long time ago KEKW
Última edición por XenoAliens; 6 DIC 2022 a las 8:26 a. m.
vukotlak 6 DIC 2022 a las 8:27 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Hotel Security:
>Fine, be the noob as you are

Wow, we're no 2 for 2 with Xeno calling people noobs when his strategies are questioned today. So, you don't have any other moves but declaring people noobs? God, you suck at this.

Do you really think other folks will take your side on this? Everyone sees what you are.

No point in talking to him. Just ignore him and leave him alone. I guess i will have to do a new topic anyway. He allready spammed a whole page of nonsene and i don't expect people to go through this.
Hotel Security 6 DIC 2022 a las 8:32 a. m. 
>watch out for your heart and brain

Yup, I'll be sure watch out for those. Weirdo.

> and I hope you can recover from tonight's share of cerebral haemorrhage

Yes, it is hard to fathom that there are people with such a lack of self-awareness like yourself.

>As for him, he probably won't suffer from this issue since he forgoes his brain

Once again Xeno manages to make a typo in the same sentence that he's criticizing someone's intelligence. You can't make this stuff up. You're the gift that keeps giving, Xeno.

>KEKW

You can't even type fake laughter correctly. Do you do ANYTHING right?

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>No point in talking to him. Just ignore him and leave him alone

No, I get a sick joy from mocking these internet tough guys and tearing them down, especially someone who thinks he's some gaming expert like our mark here. But Xeno's kind of like playing on easy mode since he provides half of the insults himself.

>I guess i will have to do a new topic anyway.

You can always continue the discussion here. Most people probably only read the few latest post anyway.
TheZWolf 6 DIC 2022 a las 3:24 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por vukotlak:
So i played through 2018 GmGoW on my ps4. While it was fun for the challange i got the feeling the gameplay it self was actualy pretty annoing.

Now i am doing it with ragnarok and it is even worse.

Especialy the high resistence against "stagger" is very annyoing. You are basicly forced to constantly dodge around and run through the arena and do occasionaly slashes. Kinda like a sting of the bee fighting style.

The problem is this gets pretty tedious and it actualy frustrates me that you barely can finish a normal combo on an enemie.

As i say i like the challenge. I don't mind to do an encounter 20 times. But there is something quoet infuriating in GmGoW. I just whish i could sometimes do a full combo or anything just to get this hack and slash feeling. But i am 90% of the time jumping and dodging around like a tasmanian devil on speed. It was a often a problem in 2018 but not constantly. But i feel in raganrok it is absolutly omnipresent. Even the most simple draugr will refuse to flinch when you hit him and if you dare to throw a combo he will just hit you inbetween and take away 2/3 of your hp.

What you guys think anyone got the same feelings or are you happy as it is.

As i said i finished GmGow 2018 so ofc i enjoyed it. But i have to say playing on hard was a lot more fun.
Well had a fun time with Give me God of war, it makes me learn when to use which move, tho I have to say the start can be a bit rough
Última edición por TheZWolf; 6 DIC 2022 a las 3:29 p. m.
vukotlak 6 DIC 2022 a las 5:17 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por XenoAliens:
Useless noob can't even finish his combo on lowest level draugr that's why he comes to Steam forum to look for other crying babies to whine about it

You join this threat with an incredible toxic behavior and spamming youtube links. Attention seeking is that called. Dude i am sure someone loves you somewhere. Get some help. Seriously. This is not making your life better. It is depressing to think about a person so lonely and sad. No one deserves this. Whereever you are and whatever you think of yourself there is definatly someone you can call to get some help.

This is not the way to go on with your life.
T9 6 DIC 2022 a las 8:50 p. m. 
Enjoying? Not rly
Doesn't feel rewarding. Can't say why
MapleEsq 7 DIC 2022 a las 2:59 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por vukotlak:
So again. Do you guys enjoy GmGoW in terms of gameplay. I am not asking if you think it is too hard or too easy Except of course this is necessary for your liking or disliking. I am not asking for a guide "how to GmGoW". I am not asking how GoW can be compared to fromsoft games.

I'll be the adult here. Honestly, it was miserable for the first half of the game, even as a veteran of souls-like games, it was pretty difficult, but not in a fun way, mainly in the grind before you unlock all of the mechanics, and resurrection stones. Just a groundhog day of waiting for the enemies to move in just the right way so I can win.

I remember even my boyfriend commenting on how pissy and frustrated I was getting. My biggest memory of this is at the start of the game, When you and Atreus fall through the bridge he rushes over , dumping a wave of draugr, some ranged, and then some heavies, before you have many of the tools you'd use for it. It made a lot of those early fights the very gimmicky, annoying mess you or someone else mentioned.

Once it got past that point though? I loved the difficulty, although there are a few areas where they just dump enemies on you and it very quickly turns annoying and frustrating. Like an 8/10 on execution, it was clearly a last second thought of "oh hey, people these days like one hit, dodge focused action games, let's add that".

I'd definitely not recommend it for the first playthrough after having done it myself, but would 2000% recommend trying it on a re-run. Getting frustrated is not worth it, especially if you're just playing this game for the story, or you are playing gmGoW for the completion/100% rewards lol.

Browsing the thread and that annoying elitist child's youtube vids showed me it can be easy, but it also uses gimmicks that the game doesn't explain are there, or just appear to be bugs/glitchs. I'm not going to pretend that's normal or should be considered lol.
Última edición por MapleEsq; 7 DIC 2022 a las 3:03 a. m.
vukotlak 7 DIC 2022 a las 3:25 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Maple Esq:
I remember even my boyfriend commenting on how pissy and frustrated I was getting. My biggest memory of this is at the start of the game, When you and Atreus fall through the bridge he rushes over , dumping a wave of draugr, some ranged, and then some heavies, before you have many of the tools you'd use for it. It made a lot of those early fights the very gimmicky, annoying mess you or someone else mentioned.

Haha ya i remember that moment too. All of those guys are super tanky and you got no skills or equipment. I tried to throw as many of em of the ledge as possible as each of the enemies easaly takes 10-15 hits to kill.

It must be amazingly hard to make a game challenging and fun at the same time. Sifu did a good job here. GoW sometimes yes. But other itimes you are forced to play extremly passiv and dodge around all the time to avoid hits.

I am now facing my first werwolves in ragnarok on my GmGoW run. I got not many tools or items. Those guys literally tank 30 hits before they die and they barely ever flinch.

I am just dashing in with the spin attack and then dodge. Rinse and repeat 20-30 times. That is just not much fun.
Última edición por vukotlak; 7 DIC 2022 a las 3:26 a. m.
Dixon Sider 7 DIC 2022 a las 9:47 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por vukotlak:
jeez guys all i was asking was if you enjoy GmGoW or not. this is a simple question isn't it?
I love GMGoW. I thought it was the best balanced difficulty I have played. The game is difficult, but not enough to be frustrsting. The optional fights can be frustratingly difficult if you want to pursue them. Its really perfect all around IMO
vukotlak 7 DIC 2022 a las 9:49 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Dixon Sider:
Publicado originalmente por vukotlak:
jeez guys all i was asking was if you enjoy GmGoW or not. this is a simple question isn't it?
I love GMGoW. I thought it was the best balanced difficulty I have played. The game is difficult, but not enough to be frustrsting. The optional fights can be frustratingly difficult if you want to pursue them. Its really perfect all around IMO

Yea in 2018 i enjoyed GmGoW aslo a lot. except some encounters that where annoying. Ragnarok so far is not as pleasing on GmGoW but i yet have to finish it. Somehow it feels like Ragnarok is a bit more spongy.
XenoAliens 8 DIC 2022 a las 9:22 p. m. 
Sobbing crying baby cries to the crying baby leader mod after crying to his mom while he still can't finish nOmAl cOmBo on loweset level draugr HAHA
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