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vukotlak Dec 6, 2022 @ 5:17am
do you enjoy GmGoW difficulty?
So i played through 2018 GmGoW on my ps4. While it was fun for the challange i got the feeling the gameplay it self was actualy pretty annoing.

Now i am doing it with ragnarok and it is even worse.

Especialy the high resistence against "stagger" is very annyoing. You are basicly forced to constantly dodge around and run through the arena and do occasionaly slashes. Kinda like a sting of the bee fighting style.

The problem is this gets pretty tedious and it actualy frustrates me that you barely can finish a normal combo on an enemie.

As i say i like the challenge. I don't mind to do an encounter 20 times. But there is something quoet infuriating in GmGoW. I just whish i could sometimes do a full combo or anything just to get this hack and slash feeling. But i am 90% of the time jumping and dodging around like a tasmanian devil on speed. It was a often a problem in 2018 but not constantly. But i feel in raganrok it is absolutly omnipresent. Even the most simple draugr will refuse to flinch when you hit him and if you dare to throw a combo he will just hit you inbetween and take away 2/3 of your hp.

What you guys think anyone got the same feelings or are you happy as it is.

As i said i finished GmGow 2018 so ofc i enjoyed it. But i have to say playing on hard was a lot more fun.
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XenoAliens Dec 6, 2022 @ 5:38am 
Here we go again. Give Me God of War difficulty is just a grind. It's pretty enjoyable and there's nothing high resistent about those enemies at all. Ragnarok is even easier

This is not about the OP but about the topic: not gonna lie it's funny to see how stupid and ridiculous Internet could be on the topics of difficulty settings. One side complains God of War has too many handholdings in the game, the other side complains on higher difficulty enemies are too stiff and spongy because they don't know how to stagger enemies and deal damage fast and the game itself doesn't write everything clearly in the tutorial. One side complains new God of War is just a Dark Souls clone while the other complains it doesn't mimic Dark Souls well enough LMAO

So all I can see is people being hypocratic and ignorant. Everybody can say they know A or B or C games do high difficulty in other ways but nobody talks about how much they know about God of War in a God of War forum. Everybody talks about how FromSoftware games ask players to press buttons themselves but when it comes to literally having to press buttons themselves in God of War games all they can do is whine and complain KEKW

PS: there are legit criticisms like enemy and boss variety issues and I'm not gonna defend God of War for lack of those. Those aspects are the part where God of War really needs to take notes of FromSoftware games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzh4Yfewf5o

https://youtu.be/20JlL4ZEoTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwMutxTg8g4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7MEHm63uc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ5XfyIpthQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpLYvkldj6g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2DVafYzqXs

Highly recommended:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sNsHd4xA1M


Last edited by XenoAliens; Dec 6, 2022 @ 6:41am
Hotel Security Dec 6, 2022 @ 7:11am 
>As i say i like the challenge. I don't mind to do an encounter 20 times. But there is something quoet infuriating in GmGoW. I just whish i could sometimes do a full combo or anything just to get this hack and slash feeling.

I hear you here...especially when early in the game and you only have a weapon and a few tricks and you feel so uncreative in fights. For some fights I'd just stand back and fling axes since that's the only methods that felt safe. But we knew going into this that the combat wasn't going to be the same...

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>not gonna lie it's funny to see how stupid and ridiculous Internet could be on the topics of difficulty settings. One side complains God of War has too many handholdings in the game, the other side complains on higher difficulty enemies are too stiff and spongy

That's because some people can't handle challenge and hate having to repeat things and others are more trained to it by other games. nuGoW does have an unfulfilling feel for those who liked the originals since the combat feels a little dumbed-down by comparison and, while it's challenging at the start, it becomes less-so as the game goes on. I mean, you can abuse early-game Talismans to have rage and full health for every encounter in the game. Combined with cooldown spam, it tends to make this the ideal strategy no matter the difficulty. So the best strategy is arguably the most boring and unfulfilling.

So, yeah, it doesn't satisfy those doing challenge runs in original GoW and frustrates the folks who can't handle challenge.

>being hypocratic and ignorant.

Butchering "hypocritical" in the same sentence where you criticize ignorance is not a good look for you, my man.

>Everybody can say they know A or B or C games do high difficulty in other ways but nobody talks about how much they know about God of War in a God of War forum.

I just read this three times and have no f***ing clue what point you're making or even what people you're referring to. Clearly you're acting out some angst you have from conversations you've seen elsewhere but it's a very poor rant.

What exactly do these people need to "know about God of War" to know that the combat is clearly dumbed down and unfulfilling in this reboot when compared to the original? It's okay since nuGoW does very well with locales and exploring but anyone who liked the originals is going to feel let down with the fighting.

>Everybody talks about how FromSoftware games ask players to press buttons themselves but when it comes to literally having to press buttons themselves in God of War games

"Press buttons themselves?" What the hell are you even talking about? Also, could you please stop using dumb terms like "everybody" when you're clearly only referring to a few people on forums like these? Exaggeration does not make for a good point.

>PS: there are legit criticisms like enemy and boss variety issues and I'm not gonna defend God of War for lack of those.

Yet this all goes into the category of how disappointing the combat can be to people compared to the hack and slash roots. They even made a great boss in the Valkyrie Queen...and then recycled her moveset eight more times. Or could have had a cool final boss encounter but had to have cinematic moments constantly interrupt it. Even when they did well with bosses, they screwed it up

>Those aspects are the part where God of War really needs to take notes of FromSoftware games

Why doesn't it take notes from previous GoW games instead? Souls games are not the only ones out there with good bosses. Heck, why not borrow from Darksiders 3 which I found very similar to nuGoW but with much better combat and bosses?

>Vids

Come on. No one's watching those.
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XenoAliens Dec 6, 2022 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by Hotel Security:
>As i say i like the challenge. I don't mind to do an encounter 20 times. But there is something quoet infuriating in GmGoW. I just whish i could sometimes do a full combo or anything just to get this hack and slash feeling.

I hear you here...especially when early in the game and you only have a weapon and a few tricks and you feel so uncreative in fights. For some fights I'd just stand back and fling axes since that's the only methods that felt safe. But we knew going into this that the combat wasn't going to be the same...

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>not gonna lie it's funny to see how stupid and ridiculous Internet could be on the topics of difficulty settings. One side complains God of War has too many handholdings in the game, the other side complains on higher difficulty enemies are too stiff and spongy

That's because some people can't handle challenge and hate having to repeat things and others are more trained to it by other games. nuGoW does have an unfulfilling feel for those who liked the originals since the combat feels a little dumbed-down by comparison and, while it's challenging at the start, it becomes less-so as the game goes on. I mean, you can abuse early-game Talismans to have rage and full health for every encounter in the game. Combined with cooldown spam, it tends to make this the ideal strategy no matter the difficulty. So the best strategy is arguably the most boring and unfulfilling.

So, yeah, it doesn't satisfy those doing challenge runs in original GoW and frustrates the folks who can't handle challenge.

>being hypocratic and ignorant.

Butchering "hypocritical" in the same sentence where you criticize ignorance is not a good look for you, my man.

>Everybody can say they know A or B or C games do high difficulty in other ways but nobody talks about how much they know about God of War in a God of War forum.

I just read this three times and have no f***ing clue what point you're making or even what people you're referring to. Clearly you're acting out some angst you have from conversations you've seen elsewhere but it's a very poor rant.

What exactly do these people need to "know about God of War" to know that the combat is clearly dumbed down and unfulfilling in this reboot when compared to the original? It's okay since nuGoW does very well with locales and exploring but anyone who liked the originals is going to feel let down with the fighting.

>Everybody talks about how FromSoftware games ask players to press buttons themselves but when it comes to literally having to press buttons themselves in God of War games

"Press buttons themselves?" What the hell are you even talking about? Also, could you please stop using dumb terms like "everybody" when you're clearly only referring to a few people on forums like these? Exaggeration does not make for a good point.

>PS: there are legit criticisms like enemy and boss variety issues and I'm not gonna defend God of War for lack of those.

Yet this all goes into the category of how disappointing the combat can be to people compared to the hack and slash roots. They even made a great boss in the Valkyrie Queen...and then recycled her moveset eight more times. Or could have had a cool final boss encounter but had to have cinematic moments constantly interrupt it. Even when they did well with bosses, they screwed it up

>Those aspects are the part where God of War really needs to take notes of FromSoftware games

Why doesn't it take notes from previous GoW games instead? Souls games are not the only ones out there with good bosses. Heck, why not borrow from Darksiders 3 which I found very similar to nuGoW but with much better combat and bosses?

>Vids

Come on. No one's watching those.

Just skip read to the last sentence. Oh yeah, nobody is gonna read your long reply here Haha
Hotel Security Dec 6, 2022 @ 7:26am 
>Just skip read to the last sentence.

Pathetic. Xeno comes here full piss of vinegar and plays his elite card and starts taking shots at all these other people on the boards. But then someone pushes back and he hides in his shell and covers his eyes so he can't see it. Coward.

> Oh yeah, nobody is gonna read your long reply here

In your case, you're just too scared to. In either case, my point has been proven. Boy, you can dish it but you sure can't take it.
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XenoAliens Dec 6, 2022 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by Hotel Security:
>Just skip read to the last sentence.

Pathetic. Xeno comes here full piss of vinegar and plays his elite card and starts taking shots at all these other people on the boards. But then someone pushes back and he hides in his shell and covers his eyes so he can't see it. Coward.

> Oh yeah, nobody is gonna read your long reply here

In your case, you're just too scared to. In either case, my point has been proven. Boy, you can dish it but you sure can't take it.

Another noob trying to grab some attention and feed his ego here while all I provide is ass whooping HAHA
vukotlak Dec 6, 2022 @ 7:34am 
jeez guys all i was asking was if you enjoy GmGoW or not. this is a simple question isn't it?

Why are we talking about fromsoft? why are there several youtube links. why is everyone mad at each other.

Wth guys can you for once stop acting like "insert favorit insult here"
XenoAliens Dec 6, 2022 @ 7:36am 
Originally posted by vukotlak:
jeez guys all i was asking was if you enjoy GmGoW or not. this is a simple question isn't it?

Why are we talking about fromsoft? why are there several youtube links. why is everyone mad at each other.

Wth guys can you for once stop acting like "insert favorit insult here"

it's just the way Steam forum functions. Like I said my reply is not specifically about you. But you will have to stay in this forum long enough to understand what I was talking about
XenoAliens Dec 6, 2022 @ 7:40am 
People are eager to prove themselves good while believing other people are dumb here. While such noob isn't even familiar which Valkyrie is which or what moveset each Valkyrie has here. Sheesh. Such skill and comprehension level can't begin to receive my attention
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vukotlak Dec 6, 2022 @ 7:41am 
So again. Do you guys enjoy GmGoW in terms of gameplay. I am not asking if you think it is too hard or too easy Except of course this is necessary for your liking or disliking. I am not asking for a guide "how to GmGoW". I am not asking how GoW can be compared to fromsoft games.
XenoAliens Dec 6, 2022 @ 7:43am 
Originally posted by vukotlak:
So again. Do you guys enjoy GmGoW in terms of gameplay. I am not asking if you think it is too hard or too easy Except of course this is necessary for your liking or disliking. I am not asking for a guide "how to GmGoW". I am not asking how GoW can be compared to fromsoft games.

My opinion is in my first reply and let me rephrase it: Yes I enjoy Give Me God of War difficulty and it's the only difficulty I play on (ofc in NG+ it's called GMGOW+) and I believe it's the only right difficulty to enjoy God of War's combat system despite the game has other flaws
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Hotel Security Dec 6, 2022 @ 7:46am 
>Another noob trying to grab some attention and feed his ego

And you're not? All I did was politely disagree with your points and you've failed to refute a single one and resorted to extremely tired and lazy insults.

You clearly want to position yourself as some expert in the game yet it took me ONE post to cause you to unravel and lose it. You're no expert. What a f***ing fraud you are.

Also, you keep posting vidoes but we all know you can't actually do any of that stuff yourself. You're just a fraud pretending to be elite. This game isn't that hard, even on GmGoW mode.

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>jeez guys all i was asking was if you enjoy GmGoW or not.

I did answer at the start of my first post and did agree with you overall. Then I responded to Xeno and, as you can see, he can NOT handle folks disagreeing with him.

>Why are we talking about fromsoft?

I have no idea. I even asked Xeno to elaborate in my response and, of course, he ignored it and responded with name-calling because he can't do anything else.

>why are there several youtube links.

I have no idea but I assume it's Xeno trying to pretend he's an expert by linking to good runs done by players other than himself. He clearly can't pull off any of this stuff on his own.

>why is everyone mad at each other.

All I did was politely question a few of Xeno's points. He completely lost it.

>Wth guys can you for once stop acting like "insert favorit insult here"

I'll try. In Xeno's case he has no other insult than calling someone a noob.

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>it's just the way Steam forum functions.

No, it's not. In fact, seeing how you responded here makes me conclude that the problem is the fact that you can't handle any debate and start attacking anyone who challenges you. So it's clear the problem is not the "Steam boards" but it's you who probably starts s*** with people everywhere, just like you did here.

>But you will have to stay in this forum long enough to understand what I was talking about

No, you don't. I've been here an hour and it's clear that the problem is you, Xeno. You turn into a child anytime anyone questions your points. Clearly, THIS is why you think Steam is bad...you cause fights everywhere you go.
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vukotlak Dec 6, 2022 @ 7:58am 
Originally posted by XenoAliens:
My opinion is in my first reply and let me rephrase it: Yes I enjoy Give Me God of War difficulty and it's the only difficulty I play on (ofc in NG+ it's called GMGOW+) and I believe it's the only right difficulty to enjoy God of War's combat system despite the game has other flaws

Honestly i can understand some of the crap beeing thrown at you. No offense though.
If you wanna boost your coutube channel i got no problem with it. Make a threat and post some links and then you can talk with people about it.

But coming here into an unrelated threat of some other person and spamming youtube videos is rude. Maybe 1 video to proof a certain point or something. Also i have watched 2 videos of those. And i see gow Gameplay and at no point this "gameplay" is going to tell me what you think about GoW.

You basicly killed a bunch of guys while using every tool available. (spartan rage, perks, talisman, Mounted attacks from the trolls. Nothing wrong it is how you have to handle GmGoW but what has this to do with my argument. Ofc you can handle GmGoW. I finished 2018 on GmGow+ including the valkyr queen. My point was that while the challange was "fun" the actual gameplay was more enjoyable on hard as it was more hack and slash and less tool abusing.
XenoAliens Dec 6, 2022 @ 8:03am 
Originally posted by vukotlak:
So again. Do you guys enjoy GmGoW in terms of gameplay. I am not asking if you think it is too hard or too easy Except of course this is necessary for your liking or disliking. I am not asking for a guide "how to GmGoW". I am not asking how GoW can be compared to fromsoft games.

With another noob out of the way, let's examine your talking points here:

Especialy the high resistence against "stagger" is very annyoing. You are basicly forced to constantly dodge around and run through the arena and do occasionaly slashes. Kinda like a sting of the bee fighting style.

As my videos shown about, there's nothing resistent against stagger about those enemies. Ofc your normal R1 spam won't do the trick. Throwing the axe is the key here. You can light throw the axe onto draugr's feet to trip them down, or light throw the axe onto their face to turn them around, or you can freeze them with heavy throw. Heavy attack also sends them flying. Then you have Runic Attacks at desposal. One Hel's Touch expose draugrs' back to you quickly and this light Runic Attack can be found early on

The combo part ok, the combos in official combo list aren't all the combos in the game. For example, normally you do R1 x 4 to get that finisher, but actually you can do R2 x 2 + R1 + R1 and get the same finisher as well. Secondly, dodging (not rolling) once mid combo won't stop the combo. For example, for R1 x 4 combo, you can literally do R1 - dodge - R1 - dodge - R1 - dodge- R1 which provides the same result.

Combined with the two aspects, you can either stagger enemies first before doing combos, or you can mix dodge into the combos to finish the combo


The problem is this gets pretty tedious and it actualy frustrates me that you barely can finish a normal combo on an enemie.

No it's not, as explained above.

As i say i like the challenge. I don't mind to do an encounter 20 times. But there is something quoet infuriating in GmGoW. I just whish i could sometimes do a full combo or anything just to get this hack and slash feeling. But i am 90% of the time jumping and dodging around like a tasmanian devil on speed. It was a often a problem in 2018 but not constantly. But i feel in raganrok it is absolutly omnipresent. Even the most simple draugr will refuse to flinch when you hit him and if you dare to throw a combo he will just hit you inbetween and take away 2/3 of your hp.

Pretty much the same talking point with more examples but as explained above, you can always finish your combo in one way or the other
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XenoAliens Dec 6, 2022 @ 8:08am 
Originally posted by vukotlak:
Originally posted by XenoAliens:
My opinion is in my first reply and let me rephrase it: Yes I enjoy Give Me God of War difficulty and it's the only difficulty I play on (ofc in NG+ it's called GMGOW+) and I believe it's the only right difficulty to enjoy God of War's combat system despite the game has other flaws

Honestly i can understand some of the crap beeing thrown at you. No offense though.
If you wanna boost your coutube channel i got no problem with it. Make a threat and post some links and then you can talk with people about it.

But coming here into an unrelated threat of some other person and spamming youtube videos is rude. Maybe 1 video to proof a certain point or something. Also i have watched 2 videos of those. And i see gow Gameplay and at no point this "gameplay" is going to tell me what you think about GoW.

You basicly killed a bunch of guys while using every tool available. (spartan rage, perks, talisman, Mounted attacks from the trolls. Nothing wrong it is how you have to handle GmGoW but what has this to do with my argument. Ofc you can handle GmGoW. I finished 2018 on GmGow+ including the valkyr queen. My point was that while the challange was "fun" the actual gameplay was more enjoyable on hard as it was more hack and slash and less tool abusing.

I don't care about Youtube channel but it's the only way of making you see things. Take your time to watch them and learn but just because I provide much information at once for you doesn't mean I'm spamming anything. Each video serves as different purposes and I don't expect you can learn all at once. Better start understanding things and if you don't have anything intelligent to say just don't say it. Yeah yeah sure many people can handle Queen of the Valkyrie nobody says she's unbeatable. But that was the low bar. The high bar is beating her with styles and different combos. If you are not very good at the game, better learn first before having strong opinions about what other people should do or should not 'cause it's just you can't handle neither the game or yourself

Now let me show you how I do combos to the Queen. And those are but some very basic combos. I wasn't doing anything advanced at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWnrw7OEW50
Last edited by XenoAliens; Dec 6, 2022 @ 8:17am
vukotlak Dec 6, 2022 @ 8:16am 
Originally posted by XenoAliens:

As my videos shown about, there's nothing resistent against stagger about those enemies. Ofc your normal R1 spam won't do the trick.

So they are infact more resistent? I know you can still stagger them with certain attacks. That was my point. Instead of doing a normal combo even for smallest trash mobes you need to do some tricks to handle em. I never said it's impossible. I said it is tedious.

Originally posted by XenoAliens:
The combo part ok, the combos in official combo list aren't all the combos in the game. For example, normally you do R1 x 4 to get that finisher, but actually you can do R2 x 2 + R1 + R1 and get the same finisher as well.

Do you realy think you need to explain basics to a guy who has beaten the valkyr on GmGow+

The problem is this gets pretty tedious and it actualy frustrates me that you barely can finish a normal combo on an enemie.
Originally posted by XenoAliens:
No it's not, as explained above.

yes it is. Listen to your own words man...

Originally posted by XenoAliens:

As my videos shown about, there's nothing resistent against stagger about those enemies. Ofc your normal R1 spam won't do the trick.
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