God of War
Shampoo 2022년 11월 28일 오전 7시 48분
I think Kratos has really grown as a character
He used to had been all “rage”, he used anyone and anything even if that kills the person or goddess in the process so that he could solve puzzles, and the rare instances where he felt something other than rage, it quickly turned back to rage in the end.

Now he actually feels something other than rage, some might think Kratos had gone soft, but if rage is the only thing characterizing the character, especially the main character of a story, then that is boring. Kratos had grown as a character and it is interesting to see that he actively tries to reject his past as a general and not repeat the mistakes he had done in the past when he abandoned his family for the battlefield until the day that changed everything.

I think the only things that moved Kratos in the past was rage and power (but the power part quickly turned back into rage due to how the games were set up), now he is a father (sure he cared about his old family and one can say that his path of destruction began with them, but when they were there, he was busy fighting on the battlefield and was not the family man he became today), who knows what it felt like to lose everything so he values his time with his son and for once in his life, it is not all about Kratos and his rage, he actually puts others above him (when in the past, the other people in his life was only as important as how he will use them to solve a puzzle) and that made him a more interesting character in my opinion.

How do you feel about Kratos growth as a character?
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BimboGooch 2022년 11월 28일 오전 7시 54분 
Thats prolly what happens once he realized all the chaos he brought after accidentally killing his old family. Then meats a really epic lady, ladies change a man :sobs:

he grew as a character along side his audience. before the games likely where more aimed towards like very young adults or teens. Plus back then was a different time, games usually where not as serious. But yeah I never played the old ones just watched lore stuff, since well there isnt all that much story to the old games and I dont feel safe spending money on the remaster or what ever unless its deep on sale. Because likely ill get bored of playing them.

But yeah likely after killing his father and stuff he then went to a different land, had time to reflect/meditate. met that girl had a kid, and didnt wanna repeat the past. Plus maybe his look change helps, since he doesnt look like part of an edgy heavy rock band anymore :^)
MegaClaus 2022년 11월 28일 오후 12시 59분 
BimboGooch님이 먼저 게시:
Thats prolly what happens once he realized all the chaos he brought after accidentally killing his old family. Then meats a really epic lady, ladies change a man :sobs:

he grew as a character along side his audience. before the games likely where more aimed towards like very young adults or teens. Plus back then was a different time, games usually where not as serious. But yeah I never played the old ones just watched lore stuff, since well there isnt all that much story to the old games and I dont feel safe spending money on the remaster or what ever unless its deep on sale. Because likely ill get bored of playing them.

But yeah likely after killing his father and stuff he then went to a different land, had time to reflect/meditate. met that girl had a kid, and didnt wanna repeat the past. Plus maybe his look change helps, since he doesnt look like part of an edgy heavy rock band anymore :^)
If you see current kratos without beard, you'll piss your pants. Dude looks terrifying without beard. 😱
BimboGooch 2022년 11월 28일 오후 1시 45분 
MegaClaus님이 먼저 게시:
BimboGooch님이 먼저 게시:
Thats prolly what happens once he realized all the chaos he brought after accidentally killing his old family. Then meats a really epic lady, ladies change a man :sobs:

he grew as a character along side his audience. before the games likely where more aimed towards like very young adults or teens. Plus back then was a different time, games usually where not as serious. But yeah I never played the old ones just watched lore stuff, since well there isnt all that much story to the old games and I dont feel safe spending money on the remaster or what ever unless its deep on sale. Because likely ill get bored of playing them.

But yeah likely after killing his father and stuff he then went to a different land, had time to reflect/meditate. met that girl had a kid, and didnt wanna repeat the past. Plus maybe his look change helps, since he doesnt look like part of an edgy heavy rock band anymore :^)
If you see current kratos without beard, you'll piss your pants. Dude looks terrifying without beard. 😱

Yeah he looks odd. I almost think the mods didnt model him right, because during the flashback moments in hel he looks fine with that long soulpatch. The mods his face looks slightly different than what it looks like in hel.
MegaClaus 2022년 11월 28일 오후 4시 15분 
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If you see current kratos without beard, you'll piss your pants. Dude looks terrifying without beard. 😱

Yeah he looks odd. I almost think the mods didnt model him right, because during the flashback moments in hel he looks fine with that long soulpatch. The mods his face looks slightly different than what it looks like in hel.
I didnt mean the mods tho. I meant the OFFICIAL no beard kratos made my santa Monica studios themselfs. And with terrifying i meant in a good way.


https://www.google.com/search?q=kratos+no+beard&client=ms-android-samsung&source=android-home&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ALiCzsbL4_INXsEil0jzzktAp1TYs1tmUA%3A1669681036781&source=hp&ei=jE-FY6HPLf6Dxc8PgruRgAE&oq=&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQARgAMgcIIxDqAhAnMgcIIxDqAhAnMgcIIxDqAhAnMgcIIxDqAhAnMgcIIxDqAhAnUABYAGCSDGgBcAB4AIABAIgBAJIBAJgBALABBQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img#imgrc=pVSIGg1mKiQLDM
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BimboGooch 2022년 11월 28일 오후 4시 28분 
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Yeah he looks odd. I almost think the mods didnt model him right, because during the flashback moments in hel he looks fine with that long soulpatch. The mods his face looks slightly different than what it looks like in hel.
I didnt mean the mods tho. I meant the OFFICIAL no beard kratos made my santa Monica studios themselfs. And with terrifying i meant in a good way.


https://www.google.com/search?q=kratos+no+beard&client=ms-android-samsung&source=android-home&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ALiCzsbL4_INXsEil0jzzktAp1TYs1tmUA%3A1669681036781&source=hp&ei=jE-FY6HPLf6Dxc8PgruRgAE&oq=&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQARgAMgcIIxDqAhAnMgcIIxDqAhAnMgcIIxDqAhAnMgcIIxDqAhAnMgcIIxDqAhAnUABYAGCSDGgBcAB4AIABAIgBAJIBAJgBALABBQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img#imgrc=pVSIGg1mKiQLDM

Oh yeah, because they gave him a ♥♥♥♥ stain stash! That type of stash looks terrifying no matter the person lol, those super thicc ones. I dont mind mustaches but those thicc ones just look both creepy and weird. No clue why people think that looks good LOL. Just make it not as thicc and it would look fine.

Well on kratos his stash wouldnt ever look fine, it doesnt fit him lol.
MegaClaus 2022년 11월 29일 오전 2시 05분 
BimboGooch님이 먼저 게시:
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I didnt mean the mods tho. I meant the OFFICIAL no beard kratos made my santa Monica studios themselfs. And with terrifying i meant in a good way.


https://www.google.com/search?q=kratos+no+beard&client=ms-android-samsung&source=android-home&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ALiCzsbL4_INXsEil0jzzktAp1TYs1tmUA%3A1669681036781&source=hp&ei=jE-FY6HPLf6Dxc8PgruRgAE&oq=&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQARgAMgcIIxDqAhAnMgcIIxDqAhAnMgcIIxDqAhAnMgcIIxDqAhAnMgcIIxDqAhAnUABYAGCSDGgBcAB4AIABAIgBAJIBAJgBALABBQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img#imgrc=pVSIGg1mKiQLDM

Oh yeah, because they gave him a ♥♥♥♥ stain stash! That type of stash looks terrifying no matter the person lol, those super thicc ones. I dont mind mustaches but those thicc ones just look both creepy and weird. No clue why people think that looks good LOL. Just make it not as thicc and it would look fine.

Well on kratos his stash wouldnt ever look fine, it doesnt fit him lol.
I dont mean the picture with the stash. But the one which is high detail. The one with the stash is from modders while the picture where kratos looks creepy with no facial hair is from the santa monica devs.
Rad-Dude 63 & 1/3rd 2022년 11월 29일 오전 7시 34분 
Rage wasn't all he had and he had very good reasons to be pissed. I certainly agree he's grown as a character, but this mindset all these people have that Kratos was poorly written because he was usually pissed off is just plain dumb. Play either PSP game and you'll see things like Kratos grieving the loss of his mother, tattooing his kidnapped brother's birthmark on himself and being so, SO happy to see him again when he does, or my favorite, forcing the player to actively push away his daughter's embracing spirit in the Elysian Fields because if you don't, the world will end. ♥♥♥♥ dude, he even sacrifices his own health to defend an ILLUSION of his family via hugging in the VERY FIRST GAME. Gahhhh.
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A.K. Rowling 2022년 11월 29일 오전 7시 36분 
I would say he regressed as a character, certainly his soy consumption has probably had something to do with it.
Rad-Dude 63 & 1/3rd 2022년 11월 29일 오전 7시 48분 
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I would say he regressed as a character, certainly his soy consumption has probably had something to do with it.
y'all call people you dislike NPCs yet only repeat the same handful of lines and usually have similar handles and profile pictures. b8 harder or go back to gooning to NTR on /hc/ or something you absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dork. I didn't know summer got so cold anyways.
MegaClaus 2022년 11월 29일 오전 11시 58분 
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I would say he regressed as a character, certainly his soy consumption has probably had something to do with it.
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BimboGooch 2022년 11월 29일 오후 12시 02분 
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Rage wasn't all he had and he had very good reasons to be pissed. I certainly agree he's grown as a character, but this mindset all these people have that Kratos was poorly written because he was usually pissed off is just plain dumb. Play either PSP game and you'll see things like Kratos grieving the loss of his mother, tattooing his kidnapped brother's birthmark on himself and being so, SO happy to see him again when he does, or my favorite, forcing the player to actively push away his daughter's embracing spirit in the Elysian Fields because if you don't, the world will end. ♥♥♥♥ dude, he even sacrifices his own health to defend an ILLUSION of his family via hugging in the VERY FIRST GAME. Gahhhh.

I mean most people dont have a psp so that part is 100% on the DEVS and sony them selves. But people can also just watch a youtube video.
I think often times why people think he is poorly written is because the mainline gow 1 to 3 does not have all that much story, especially compared to gow 4 and 5. You can watch a maybe 20 minute video on all the games pre gow 4, and understand exactly what is going on. Then again you can do a 1 min video of how 4 and understand whats going on, but you miss the like 40 hours of inbetween which is the good part of gow 4. Since well the over all story is very generic. "bring mom to big mountain spread ashes"
Rad-Dude 63 & 1/3rd 2022년 11월 29일 오후 7시 31분 
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Rage wasn't all he had and he had very good reasons to be pissed. I certainly agree he's grown as a character, but this mindset all these people have that Kratos was poorly written because he was usually pissed off is just plain dumb. Play either PSP game and you'll see things like Kratos grieving the loss of his mother, tattooing his kidnapped brother's birthmark on himself and being so, SO happy to see him again when he does, or my favorite, forcing the player to actively push away his daughter's embracing spirit in the Elysian Fields because if you don't, the world will end. ♥♥♥♥ dude, he even sacrifices his own health to defend an ILLUSION of his family via hugging in the VERY FIRST GAME. Gahhhh.

I mean most people dont have a psp so that part is 100% on the DEVS and sony them selves. But people can also just watch a youtube video.
I think often times why people think he is poorly written is because the mainline gow 1 to 3 does not have all that much story, especially compared to gow 4 and 5. You can watch a maybe 20 minute video on all the games pre gow 4, and understand exactly what is going on. Then again you can do a 1 min video of how 4 and understand whats going on, but you miss the like 40 hours of inbetween which is the good part of gow 4. Since well the over all story is very generic. "bring mom to big mountain spread ashes"
on the devs and sony? when they rereleased those PSP games in HD on console later on too (granted not yet PC)? but personally i feel like people just are incapable of accepting an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ protagonist. hell, look how many people misuse "protagonist" and "antagonist" as "hero" and "villain" interchangeably.
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Hotel Security 2022년 11월 30일 오전 9시 06분 
He hasn't "grown" at all. He's more generic now. The original character was unique.

The whole twist with the first games was that Kratos was at fault for everything that happened to him. His revenge was arguably unwarranted yet you got to play him as he destroyed the world while going after it. It's a unique situation where the player is playing as a guy who is "in the wrong" but we still have to help him fulfill his goal. He's killing god after god when, in the end, Kratos was the one who led to everything bad that happened to him. That's his arc and it's very unique for the time. The original game never implies that the world is better after Kratos's actions and he's shown killing innocents throughout the series, including starting his own wars in the 2nd game.

With nuGoW, he's the exact same as every antihero...he's ashamed of his past and trying to make amends and be a good father and blahblahblah...it's the exact same story you see from every hero trying to redeem a shaky past.

And nuGoW doesn't even try to be ambiguous about the gods...Odin and Thor are portrayed as the evilest of evils so there's never any grey area about Kratos's actions...he's opposing those big evil gods who make everything worse for everyone. In the original games, it shows Kratos ruining parts of the world and hurting humanity with his actions...there's NONE of that nuance in nuGoW. Kratos is goodguy and Odin/Thor are badguys and that's that.

People act like because a character acts quiet and serious and has more dialogue then it means they're "deeper." There's nothing deep about this Kratos. it's lazy good vs evil like any game. Just another cliched antihero in a gaming world full of them.
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MegaClaus 2022년 11월 30일 오전 9시 19분 
Hotel Security님이 먼저 게시:
He hasn't "grown" at all. He's more generic now. The original character was unique.

The whole twist with the first games was that Kratos was at fault for everything that happened to him. His revenge was arguably unwarranted yet you got to play him as he destroyed the world while going after it. It's a unique situation where the player is playing as a guy who is "in the wrong" but we still have to help him fulfill his goal. He's killing god after god when, in the end, Kratos was the one who led to everything bad that happened to him. That's his arc and it's very unique for the time. The original game never implies that the world is better after Kratos's actions and he's shown killing innocents throughout the series, including starting his own wars in the 2nd game.

With nuGoW, he's the exact same as every antihero...he's ashamed of his past and trying to make amends and be a good father and blahblahblah...it's the exact same story you see from every hero trying to redeem a shaky past.

And nuGoW doesn't even try to be ambiguous about the gods...Odin and Thor are portrayed as the evilest of evils so there's never any grey area about Kratos's actions...he's opposing those big evil gods who make everything worse for everyone. In the original games, it shows Kratos ruining parts of the world and hurting humanity with his actions...there's NONE of that nuance in nuGoW. Kratos is goodguy and Odin/Thor are badguys and that's that.

People act like because a character acts quiet and serious and has more dialogue then it means they're "deeper." There's nothing deep about this Kratos. it's lazy good vs evil like any game. Just another cliched antihero in a gaming world full of them.
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Zeorginas 2022년 11월 30일 오후 1시 56분 
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He hasn't "grown" at all. He's more generic now. The original character was unique.

The whole twist with the first games was that Kratos was at fault for everything that happened to him. His revenge was arguably unwarranted yet you got to play him as he destroyed the world while going after it. It's a unique situation where the player is playing as a guy who is "in the wrong" but we still have to help him fulfill his goal. He's killing god after god when, in the end, Kratos was the one who led to everything bad that happened to him. That's his arc and it's very unique for the time. The original game never implies that the world is better after Kratos's actions and he's shown killing innocents throughout the series, including starting his own wars in the 2nd game.

With nuGoW, he's the exact same as every antihero...he's ashamed of his past and trying to make amends and be a good father and blahblahblah...it's the exact same story you see from every hero trying to redeem a shaky past.

And nuGoW doesn't even try to be ambiguous about the gods...Odin and Thor are portrayed as the evilest of evils so there's never any grey area about Kratos's actions...he's opposing those big evil gods who make everything worse for everyone. In the original games, it shows Kratos ruining parts of the world and hurting humanity with his actions...there's NONE of that nuance in nuGoW. Kratos is goodguy and Odin/Thor are badguys and that's that.

People act like because a character acts quiet and serious and has more dialogue then it means they're "deeper." There's nothing deep about this Kratos. it's lazy good vs evil like any game. Just another cliched antihero in a gaming world full of them.
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