Muspelheim armor / niffelheim armor

[Basrutten25]

So if you do all muspelheim trials and use all on muspelheim armor, you are basicasly F.cked late in the game becouse niffelheim armor needs that crafting material from muspelheim so you have to reload game or i missing something . Thx

[Neo2266]

You can always get more of the special materials. However, you will be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ in terms of hacksilver if you want to upgrade everything fully. it is of course possible, but a user on reddit found out that in order to upgrade all armour and talismans and girps and pommels, you need ~50M hacksilver, which took him a total of 4 playthroughs to get.

Also, Crests of Surtr are an incredibly rare resource with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ way of getting obtained, as opposed to it's Niflheim counterpart - Aersbane, which is already a ♥♥♥♥♥ to get.

if you're only looking for the most useful set of armour, go for any of the Niflheim ones or for the Valkyrie armour. Muspel armour is not as good as either of them, but it does have some cool effects

Edit: Wow, steam censors the word b.i.t.c.h. now? jeez

[Jahellson]

Nguyên văn bởi Neo2266:

You can always get more of the special materials. However, you will be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ in terms of hacksilver if you want to upgrade everything fully. it is of course possible, but a user on reddit found out that in order to upgrade all armour and talismans and girps and pommels, you need ~50M hacksilver, which took him a total of 4 playthroughs to get.

I improved everything and if I'm not mistaken, there were 5 gameplays. I played them all whenever possible focusing on Luck and even then at the end of the fifth, there was a lot of farm.
I think it's very difficult to happen in 4 gameplays, but not impossible.
Possibly we will have someone saying that they managed to improve everything in 2.5 gameplays, but from my experience in the game this is only possible if there is use of glitches like "return to last checkpoint".

[DrBonifarz]

Nguyên văn bởi AR2R:

Grind more. There's no limit.

Let's try with a more detailed explanation for Basrutten's problem =)

In Muspelheim, there are ten trials to complete before you can face the Valkyrie Gondul. Of course, she can be a wall for some players, but once you got her down, there is new repeatable content available: Completing 3 of 5 "impossible trials" gives you one go at one of the three gold challenges. And those gold challenges are the only way to obtain the Crest of Surtr resource. All of this gives plenty of basic embers.

Now back to the problem - it should be well possible to complete all Niefelheim content and/or to defeat Gondul without a maxed out set of Ivaldi's armor. On gmgow+ difficulty, things might get a bit tougher, but even then there should be many viable armor options to get that done. E.g. I finished Niefelheim with only two pieces of Ivaldi's light armor, and it is fun to test various armor combos when dancing with our winged friends. Hope that helps, don't give up and have fun :)

[Basrutten25]

Ok again we almost get to the point. Muspelheim realm of fire- i fo 6 sword chalenges (1st playthru) every chalenge have 2 stages. I do them all got to valkory , valkory killed me 20x so i left her alone. So i craft everything muspelheim spend all resorces. Than i go to NIFFELHEIM (mist) i grind my a.. of and do Ivaldi deadly mist armor. I got beafed up , kill muspel valkory. ok. THE QUESTION : " IF YOU DO 6 sword chalenges in muspelheim (to get to the top = 2 x 6 chalenges = 12 chalenges) IS THERE CHANCE FOR MORE CHALENGES OR RESTART THEM . Without finishing the game.

(obviously best way is : dont do muspelheim at first go to niffelheim ->grind ivaldi armor-> than go to muspleheim kill everything on chalenges coz you are beefed up. Than dont spend anything on muspleheim stuff and just complete niffelheim sets. But as i said i already spend those (before valkory ) recouces.)

[DrBonifarz]

Nguyên văn bởi Basrutten25:

Ok again we almost get to the point. [...] IS THERE CHANCE FOR MORE CHALENGES OR RESTART THEM . Without finishing the game.

Actually, we got to the point already :D

Nguyên văn bởi DrBonifarz:

Nguyên văn bởi AR2R:

Grind more. There's no limit.

[...] once you got her down, there is new repeatable content available: Completing 3 of 5 "impossible trials" gives you one go at one of the three gold challenges.

Means: You can repeat the five impossible trials and the three gold challenges as many times as you like.

[Basrutten25]

Yes guys. Turns out , i dont open the second chest on volcano valkory, thats why game acts like i dont defeat her. So its possible to upgrade everything niffelheim , if you dont go too crazy on muspelheim sets.

[acowsik]

Nguyên văn bởi Jahellson:

Nguyên văn bởi Neo2266:

You can always get more of the special materials. However, you will be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ in terms of hacksilver if you want to upgrade everything fully. it is of course possible, but a user on reddit found out that in order to upgrade all armour and talismans and girps and pommels, you need ~50M hacksilver, which took him a total of 4 playthroughs to get.

I improved everything and if I'm not mistaken, there were 5 gameplays. I played them all whenever possible focusing on Luck and even then at the end of the fifth, there was a lot of farm.
I think it's very difficult to happen in 4 gameplays, but not impossible.
Possibly we will have someone saying that they managed to improve everything in 2.5 gameplays, but from my experience in the game this is only possible if there is use of glitches like "return to last checkpoint".

I guess you cant seem to let go can ya....

If its built into the game and it saves time... ofc its a usable option. Anyways that applies only to hacksilver and skap slag. But when it comes to grinding Niflheim and Muspelheim there are no shortcuts and I have put in the hard yards for that and surprisingly you seem to ignore that though.

It took me a total of 21 gold rank runs of Muspelheim trial 6 (12 times on NG and 9 on NG+) to have the required smoldering ember and enough crest of surtr for all armor and pommel upgrades.

Doing multiple playthroughs to grind hacksilver results in you having to sell off unwanted resources which hardly return anything in hacksilver and grinding Niflheim and Muspelheim more than you need results in you having excess of echoes and stuff which you cant even sell. Take your pick.

I just decided to do it in a more efficient way where I had the least wastage in resources.

[WeS]

Nguyên văn bởi Jahellson:

Nguyên văn bởi Neo2266:

You can always get more of the special materials. However, you will be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ in terms of hacksilver if you want to upgrade everything fully. it is of course possible, but a user on reddit found out that in order to upgrade all armour and talismans and girps and pommels, you need ~50M hacksilver, which took him a total of 4 playthroughs to get.

I improved everything and if I'm not mistaken, there were 5 gameplays. I played them all whenever possible focusing on Luck and even then at the end of the fifth, there was a lot of farm.
I think it's very difficult to happen in 4 gameplays, but not impossible.
Possibly we will have someone saying that they managed to improve everything in 2.5 gameplays, but from my experience in the game this is only possible if there is use of glitches like "return to last checkpoint".

Eu consegui em sete Gameplays e meia, fazendo 100% do jogo na dificuldade Quero God of War em todas elas. não tenho muita paciência pra ficar num mesmo local horas e horas farmando hacksilver e preferi ficar rejogando até conseguir os recursos necessários para melhorar tudo. o complicado é que depois que se consegue tal feito não sobra muito o que se fazer no jogo kkk

[Jahellson]

Nguyên văn bởi acowsik:

If its built into the game and it saves time... ofc its a usable option. Anyways that applies only to hacksilver and skap slag. But when it comes to grinding Niflheim and Muspelheim there are no shortcuts and I have put in the hard yards for that and surprisingly you seem to ignore that though.

I didn't ignore anything, even because I also improved everything, I know the work it takes, but it's something that "only" takes time.

Nguyên văn bởi acowsik:

Doing multiple playthroughs to grind hacksilver results in you having to sell off unwanted resources which hardly return anything in hacksilver and grinding Niflheim and Muspelheim more than you need results in you having excess of echoes and stuff which you cant even sell. Take your pick.

Echoes can be "exchanged" for Hacksilver just buy the "Perfect Artifact of the Blight" enchantment for 750 Echoes and sell it for 1850 Hacksilver + 25 Enchanted Dust.

[Jahellson]

Nguyên văn bởi {کђ}™/ WeS:

Eu consegui em sete Gameplays e meia, fazendo 100% do jogo na dificuldade Quero God of War em todas elas. não tenho muita paciência pra ficar num mesmo local horas e horas farmando hacksilver e preferi ficar rejogando até conseguir os recursos necessários para melhorar tudo. o complicado é que depois que se consegue tal feito não sobra muito o que se fazer no jogo kkk

Cara, também não tenho paciência para ficar farmando num mesmo local, por isso fiz 5 gameplays, todos no GMGW e 100%. "Só" precisei de 5, pq desde o primeiro eu priorizava Sorte e mesmo assim ainda precisei farmar um pouco de Hacksilver. no final do quinto gameplay.
Eu não usei os "glitches de farm", mas reconheço que ajudariam muito.

[acowsik]

Nguyên văn bởi Jahellson:

Echoes can be "exchanged" for Hacksilver just buy the "Perfect Artifact of the Blight" enchantment for 750 Echoes and sell it for 1850 Hacksilver + 25 Enchanted Dust.

When you have over 100k echoes this seems too tedious...