DSR Vs. DLDSR discussion.

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Anyone did some comparisons? i've been tweaking all the options and playing with DSR and DLDSR and something surprised me. DLDSR works WORSE than DSR. I'm playing with DSR @2160p and 15% DSR sharp/smooth.

What i did noticed with DLDSR: Automatic sharpen (too much for me) and 5 fps drop Vs. DSR.

What i did noticed with DSR: 5 fps increased performance, smoothness in gameplay Vs. DLDSR.

Wierd since Nvidia claimed DLDSR is the same as DSR but controlled by AI with much better performance. Not in my case and in this game.

Anyone else?

[Grubbs008]

Well whatever you do, make sure you install the new drivers that just dropped today, it has improvements for God of War.

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Publicado originalmente por Grubbs008:

Well whatever you do, make sure you install the new drivers that just dropped today, it has improvements for God of War.

Of course. I did the new DLDSR tech is only avaliable with the latest drivers.

[femma]

Maybe dumb question, but how do you enable DLDSR with GoW and latest Nvidia drivers as game does not support fullscreen?

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Maybe dumb question, but how do you enable DLDSR with GoW and latest Nvidia drivers as game does not support fullscreen?

You can enable it in the Nvidia control panel, then up your res, then launch the game

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Maybe dumb question, but how do you enable DLDSR with GoW and latest Nvidia drivers as game does not support fullscreen?

You can enable it in the Nvidia control panel, then up your res, then launch the game

This. Enable + change desktop resolution + launch game.

[femma]

Thanks, too bad it seems to be 60hz max only (120hz screen).

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Thanks, too bad it seems to be 60hz max only (120hz screen).

Change the desktop resolution inside the nvidia panel control. There you can select the HZ.

[Sholva]

There's indeed a performance penalty from using DLDSR, but I expected that. I agree that it does sharpen things maybe a bit too much and I'd like finer control over that, this game looks pretty clean with DLSS already so I think DLDSR may be a bit overkill, really, so it's gonna depend on each game, there are some games out there that look really blurry compared to GoW and perhaps it'll be more interesting to use in those cases.

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idk, i guess its a personal preference, dldsr 2.25x + dlss @quality looks great in any game i tested so far, better than old dsr x4 + dlss @performance. If we speak about games that doesnt support dlss - it still looks better to me than old x4dsr, witcher and gta 5 still had a lot of aliasing even with x4dsr, not the case anymore with 2.25x dldsr.

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idk, i guess its a personal preference, dldsr 2.25x + dlss @quality looks great in any game i tested so far, better than old dsr x4 + dlss @performance. If we speak about games that doesnt support dlss - it still looks better to me than old x4dsr, witcher and gta 5 still had a lot of aliasing even with x4dsr, not the case anymore with 2.25x dldsr.

Yeah I think it's going to be nice for those games that don't have DLSS, I haven't had the time to test many games, since I'm playing God of War for now, but I can think of several games where DLDSR may look nice thanks to the extra crispness, but I'd still love to have a "DLDSR sharpness" slider, much like regular DSR has a smoothness one.

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idk, i guess its a personal preference, dldsr 2.25x + dlss @quality looks great in any game i tested so far, better than old dsr x4 + dlss @performance. If we speak about games that doesnt support dlss - it still looks better to me than old x4dsr, witcher and gta 5 still had a lot of aliasing even with x4dsr, not the case anymore with 2.25x dldsr.

Yeah I think it's going to be nice for those games that don't have DLSS, I haven't had the time to test many games, since I'm playing God of War for now, but I can think of several games where DLDSR may look nice thanks to the extra crispness, but I'd still love to have a "DLDSR sharpness" slider, much like regular DSR has a smoothness one.

smoothness setting is still in the control panel, but as i said, its personal preference, some people like sharper image, others might like more blur. from my testing smoothness slider still works the same as before. Anyway with x4 dsr you should use 0% smoothness for best image clarity, if that feels too sharp for you as well, then i guess you prefer blur over clear image.

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Yeah I think it's going to be nice for those games that don't have DLSS, I haven't had the time to test many games, since I'm playing God of War for now, but I can think of several games where DLDSR may look nice thanks to the extra crispness, but I'd still love to have a "DLDSR sharpness" slider, much like regular DSR has a smoothness one.

smoothness setting is still in the control panel, but as i said, its personal preference, some people like sharper image, others might like more blur. from my testing smoothness slider still works the same as before. Anyway with x4 dsr you should use 0% smoothness for best image clarity, if that feels too sharp for you as well, then i guess you prefer blur over clear image.

Actually even at 4x DSR, many games do need some smoothness applied, otherwise certain elements don't look good, especially text / UI elements, but it does not need that much smoothness, which I know it's still present for regular DSR, at the very least; does it work for DLDSR too? That could eliminate some of the sharpenss, but I haven't tried, I normally use 20% smoothness for every DSR resolution, with good results, really.

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smoothness setting is still in the control panel, but as i said, its personal preference, some people like sharper image, others might like more blur. from my testing smoothness slider still works the same as before. Anyway with x4 dsr you should use 0% smoothness for best image clarity, if that feels too sharp for you as well, then i guess you prefer blur over clear image.

Actually even at 4x DSR, many games do need some smoothness applied, otherwise certain elements don't look good, especially text / UI elements, but it does not need that much smoothness, which I know it's still present for regular DSR, at the very least; does it work for DLDSR too? That could eliminate some of the sharpenss, but I haven't tried, I normally use 20% smoothness for every DSR resolution, with good results, really.

I do use 20% in most titles too. In this particular case i use 15% because the game itself it's quite sharp.

The thing is that i was expecting better performance with DLDSR over DSR since Nvidia released the tech focused on that. Give the same results as DSR but with much better performance. Not on GoW (in my opinion and tests). I must test other games like Cyber, rdr2, etc...

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Actually even at 4x DSR, many games do need some smoothness applied, otherwise certain elements don't look good, especially text / UI elements, but it does not need that much smoothness, which I know it's still present for regular DSR, at the very least; does it work for DLDSR too? That could eliminate some of the sharpenss, but I haven't tried, I normally use 20% smoothness for every DSR resolution, with good results, really.

I do use 20% in most titles too. In this particular case i use 15% because the game itself it's quite sharp.

The thing is that i was expecting better performance with DLDSR over DSR since Nvidia released the tech focused on that. Give the same results as DSR but with much better performance. Not on GoW (in my opinion and tests). I must test other games like Cyber, rdr2, etc...

I don't see the impact of DLDSR being that bad on my system, I have a 3060 Ti, and seeing video from a cutscene, side by side, that I have recorded...it's not that much in the end.

It's a pity the game doesn't include a fixed, repeatable benchmark, to check things out a bit easier, but I don't particularly see a huge performance delta between both downsampling methods in this particular game.

I did check on Resident Evil 2 Remake before GoW launched and the difference in performance wasn't huge either, I don't know, need to test more games, at least a game with a Benchmark to run.

[MEgaBYte_cr]

You are not understanding how DLDSR works and the advantages it brings, not your fault nvidia made it pretty confusing.
DLDSR 2.25x should be compared to 4x DSR, so 4x Quality with 2.25x performance - Win
DLDSR 1.78x should be compared to 2.25x DSR, again 2.25x Quality with a 1.78x performance hit - Again Win
The smoothness though it seems it affects both DSR and DLDSR in a different way. Some people are saying that with DLDSR you should use between 50 and 75% smoothness.