Kobolith Evolution impossible?

[Jzaku]

It might have been changed recently, but Kobalth's natural Str gain by leveling up puts it beyond Kobolith's (the magic one) low Str threshold. I've invested every Potential point into Magic but Kobolith locks itself out of BOTH evolutions starting at level 19.

I think "low stat threshold" is cute but is a bad gameplay experience. Locking yourself out of evolutions without serious planning ahead for what appears to be Kobou's "natural" evolution staying Earth attribute is crazy.

[blizzcarsten]

You can always just use Stat Chips to get your Evo but yeah this Stat Evolutions are kinda annoying.

I think the worst is the Wind Evo from the Fire Salamander. You either use a gigantic amount of Magic Chips or you waste a gigantic Amount of Potential (200+ i think )

All of that would not be so bad, if not for the fact that you can do it all over again if you go for a reboot ^^

[Jzaku]

Originally posted by blizzcarsten:

You can always just use Stat Chips to get your Evo but yeah this Stat Evolutions are kinda annoying.

I think the worst is the Wind Evo from the Fire Salamander. You either use a gigantic amount of Magic Chips or you waste a gigantic Amount of Potential (200+ i think )

All of that would not be so bad, if not for the fact that you can do it all over again if you go for a reboot ^^

To be clear, I am not having an issue increasing my Magic to qualify for Kobolith. I am having an issue where the pre-evolution's natural stat growth in Strength is DISQUALIFYING me from Kobolith. Unless there are negative stat chips in the game I haven't seen?

[blizzcarsten]

Originally posted by Jzaku:

Originally posted by blizzcarsten:

You can always just use Stat Chips to get your Evo but yeah this Stat Evolutions are kinda annoying.

I think the worst is the Wind Evo from the Fire Salamander. You either use a gigantic amount of Magic Chips or you waste a gigantic Amount of Potential (200+ i think )

All of that would not be so bad, if not for the fact that you can do it all over again if you go for a reboot ^^

To be clear, I am not having an issue increasing my Magic to qualify for Kobolith. I am having an issue where the pre-evolution's natural stat growth in Strength is DISQUALIFYING me from Kobolith. Unless there are negative stat chips in the game I haven't seen?

you are saying that if Kobalth reaches let's say 20 strength, then no matter how high his magic goes, he can't evolve into Kobolith`?

If that is the case, then 1.04 has a solution for this.

* Added a new upgrade item that prevents level up stats gain (but you gain Potential)

[stove]

Yes, as blizz said, there is an item (Data Siphon) that prevents stats gain on level up, and you gain Potential instead so you can pinpoint stat allocations manually.

One is in a chest in Memory Meadow and another can be bought in Bug's Den.

[Jzaku]

Ah I missed the addition of this item. Thanks guys.

[Yílõng Má]

Originally posted by stove:

Yes, as blizz said, there is an item (Data Siphon) that prevents stats gain on level up, and you gain Potential instead so you can pinpoint stat allocations manually.

One is in a chest in Memory Meadow and another can be bought in Bug's Den.

But it's an artificial way to do it. IMO, every tama should be able to evolve to any forms naturally, without using item or upgrade as some prevention method.

[stove]

Originally posted by Yílõng Má:

Originally posted by stove:

Yes, as blizz said, there is an item (Data Siphon) that prevents stats gain on level up, and you gain Potential instead so you can pinpoint stat allocations manually.

One is in a chest in Memory Meadow and another can be bought in Bug's Den.

But it's an artificial way to do it. IMO, every tama should be able to evolve to any forms naturally, without using item or upgrade as some prevention method.

With how reboots and stats works here, it won't always be possible to naturally evolve them. But at least for starter Tama, in this case Kobalth, I'll make one of his evos a default one, and another one require a high stat

[blizzcarsten]

Originally posted by stove:

Yes, as blizz said, there is an item (Data Siphon) that prevents stats gain on level up, and you gain Potential instead so you can pinpoint stat allocations manually.

One is in a chest in Memory Meadow and another can be bought in Bug's Den.

Oh so we get the Stats we don't get as Extra Potential? That is kinda neat since it weakens the "need" to not use the tamas you want to use.

Basically what i mean is : The most optimal way to play is to never use potential on the Tamas you eventually want as your End Party until the final reboot to gather as much starting Potential as possible. By the way i really dislike this Feature. Altough the Difference isn't that high and when Tama start to get +60 Potential for a single Levelup, then having 100+ Starting Potential isn't really that much of a deal.

But now with this Chip, the Stats and in return the Cost of upgrading doesn't increase, so having a ton of Potential at Lv.1 is not that important anymore. Of course Evos will still increase the Price but using your Potential on the Base Form when the % Stat is lower then their Evo isn't ideal anyway, since the upgrade cost scales quicker.

E: Oh wait a second if we don't level up our stats until the final Evo then logically speaking the extra potential get from the chip should be equal to the never increasing upgrade cost which would not be good at all.

E:2 Altough if that assumption is correct, then we could do something insane like pushing all Stats to 100+ with Chips at lv.1 and propably gain so much Potential that we can Max out a tama without a Reboot? xD Not that i would ever want to farm so many Chips.

[stove]

All of your unspent Potential when Rebooting will be auto-spent on stats (and then converted into Potential again) so I don't think you can min-max much there, but this Data Siphon item does enable some other shenanigans with stats distributions (for example, on Tama that naturally gain a lot of HP, or on Prisman that gains everything equally)