I hope the series doesn't get a continuation (spoiler warning inside)

[MK1518]

I'll start with a premise: I loved the Blaster Master Zero trilogy, I had a blast (pun not intended) with it from the beginning to the end, both because of its gameplay AND its story and characters, and I think the third game gave a great conclusion to the story.

That being said... I hope they don't continue the series with another story arc, and now I will explain why (SPOILER WARNING AHEAD. DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED THE GAME YET):







In the end, Jason and Eve stayed in the Superdimensional Space, fighting the mutant that are rebelling to Eve's will, that they call Lightning Beings, while the children they gave birth to, Roddie and Elvie, are sent to Earth and will be raised by Leibniz, but they promise that they will do all they can to return to Earth one day and live together as family. And here comes the question: why don't I want a continuation to this, with Roddie and Elvie as potential protagonists of a next arc? It's pretty simple: in the last game of the original continuity, Blaster Master: Blasting Again, the premise consists in.... both Jason and Eve died in off-screen at the hands of the Lightning Beings, the same ones mentioned in the ending of the Zero Trilogy, with their children Roddie and Elvie taking the role of protagonists, so if Inti Creates decides to continue the series, they will likely take that premise as inspiration and we might potentially have a storyline with Roddie and Elvie as protagonist, in the search of their parents, trying to help them returning home... only to find out that they are dead. It would be devastating. Now someone will say "You don't know if it will effectively go that way, Inti Creates might not follow the original continuity completely, and might do it differently" but what if it wasn't the case? I'd honestly prefer to leave things as they are instead of going throught another The Last of Us scenario (who knows knows), and seeing characters I learned to love made dirty in that way. So I hope that in the end, things are just left in the way they are, and no other Blaster Master games will be done in future. I think this is for the best...


Well, that's what I think guys, Fell free to say if you agree or disagree with this...

[CarlosPenaJr]

Truly, I don't really see the problem with this. Its sad, it is, but that's a interesting way to make things and don't sticky with many cliches.

The next point is a spoiler for Shadow Hearts 1 and 2 (to make my point of view), so if you plan to play it, don't read :P


In the 1st game, there's two endings:
- In one, Alice (the heroine) survives the curse after the last battle, happy ending and all that
- In the another, she dies and Yuri (the protagonist) blame him self for this (well, she toke the curse to save him XD)

Now things turns interesting in the second game.
They used as cannon the BAD ENDING, where Alice dies and Yuri is in a great depression because of it and all events in this game are much better exactly because of that.
There's even a part of the story that they try to revive her with a book used for this kind of magic that plays a part in the 1st game, but like in the previews game, the spell don't works very well, just bring her soul of a few seconds just to tell how much she loved Yuri, making one of the best scenes that I saw so far in games, even without being a happy one.

Long story short, I don't have a problem with this kind of thing IF IT IS well done, of course.
Since I didn't played the original ones, just this trilogy, I would like to see how they use this ending to make a new arc, even if it is a sad one.

[TouyaShiro]

Ah yes... the Blasting Again references. It's not like they didn't already go that route in a sense - Roddy and Elfie themselves, the original ANDREIA pilots, already fell at the hands of the Mutant Core, Drolrevo. And if they do ever make a new game in Blaster Master - a new story arc with the human children who were named after them - it's likely they would probably repeat the trend of the BMZ Series itself by having a normal ending and a true ending.

I'll probably comment on more of this later, but for now, I wanted to throw these thoughts out there.

[PeachieOs(spring sem)]

I wouldn't mind a continuation with Roddie and Elvie. Even if they did go the same route with the dead parents twist , I still think they'd do something interesting with the story to make it worth it regardless.

[Tsuki Zero]

If there is a continuation, it should be a remake of Blasting Again (more like a retelling but either with improved gameplay or 2D gameplay)

[MK1518]

Originally posted by CarlosPenaJr:

Truly, I don't really see the problem with this. Its sad, it is, but that's a interesting way to make things and don't sticky with many cliches.

The next point is a spoiler for Shadow Hearts 1 and 2 (to make my point of view), so if you plan to play it, don't read :P


In the 1st game, there's two endings:
- In one, Alice (the heroine) survives the curse after the last battle, happy ending and all that
- In the another, she dies and Yuri (the protagonist) blame him self for this (well, she toke the curse to save him XD)

Now things turns interesting in the second game.
They used as cannon the BAD ENDING, where Alice dies and Yuri is in a great depression because of it and all events in this game are much better exactly because of that.
There's even a part of the story that they try to revive her with a book used for this kind of magic that plays a part in the 1st game, but like in the previews game, the spell don't works very well, just bring her soul of a few seconds just to tell how much she loved Yuri, making one of the best scenes that I saw so far in games, even without being a happy one.

Long story short, I don't have a problem with this kind of thing IF IT IS well done, of course.
Since I didn't played the original ones, just this trilogy, I would like to see how they use this ending to make a new arc, even if it is a sad one.

Originally posted by TouyaShiro:

Ah yes... the Blasting Again references. It's not like they didn't already go that route in a sense - Roddy and Elfie themselves, the original ANDREIA pilots, already fell at the hands of the Mutant Core, Drolrevo. And if they do ever make a new game in Blaster Master - a new story arc with the human children who were named after them - it's likely they would probably repeat the trend of the BMZ Series itself by having a normal ending and a true ending.

I'll probably comment on more of this later, but for now, I wanted to throw these thoughts out there.

Originally posted by PeachieOs:

I wouldn't mind a continuation with Roddie and Elvie. Even if they did go the same route with the dead parents twist , I still think they'd do something interesting with the story to make it worth it regardless.

Originally posted by Tsukiyomaru Zero:

If there is a continuation, it should be a remake of Blasting Again (more like a retelling but either with improved gameplay or 2D gameplay)

The thing is... Inti Creates has quite a reputation for making great games but with depressing ending (see Mega Man Zero and the Gunvolt series), so it was nice to have a series that was not as depressing as those ones for once. But if they're gonna continue the series, and follow the original continuity to keep it going, then it would make BMZ just like the series I mentioned, and to be honest, I don't want it.

Sorry guys, I'm not gonna have a disagreement with you for this, but I gotta stand for what I believe in. I really don't want to see Jason and Eve ending like Joel from The Last of Us, so I'm just stopping on the third game, and that's it. End of the story.

[buddy]

I hope they make more because these games are great. If they decide to go with a sad ending I wouldn't mind, as long as the gameplay is just as good

[CarlosPenaJr]

Originally posted by MK1518:

The thing is... Inti Creates has quite a reputation for making great games but with depressing ending (see Mega Man Zero and the Gunvolt series), so it was nice to have a series that was not as depressing as those ones for once. But if they're gonna continue the series, and follow the original continuity to keep it going, then it would make BMZ just like the series I mentioned, and to be honest, I don't want it.

Sorry guys, I'm not gonna have a disagreement with you for this, but I gotta stand for what I believe in. I really don't want to see Jason and Eve ending like Joel from The Last of Us, so I'm just stopping on the third game, and that's it. End of the story.

Oh, don't worry, it's just a point of view that doesn't need to argue to the point to become a fight, its really just how you gonna react with their games XD

I for one like how MMZ and Gunvolt turned out (especially the IX, that last part I wasn't expecting XD), so I do hope that they continue this series, even if they don't use this route for the next one, IF THEY DO A GOOD job making the game :D

[Edulcorante]

MMZ4 has a great ending, but if they wanna make another Blaster Master game, they shouldn't make it related to Zero.
Jason's story is already over, unless they wanna make a Leibniz spin-off to tell what he did on Earth they really shouldn't touch on this storyline anymore.
About the "as long as gameplay is good" I just hope Satoru Nishizawa gets to direct another series and Inti stops bothering about making their games hard because it never works out. They should try to make a more "dynamic" game like BMZ2 and not just "wow look how much obstacles and all over the place boss patterns" like BMZ3 became and also like most of their games recently.

[CarlosPenaJr]

Originally posted by Edulcorante:

MMZ4 has a great ending, but if they wanna make another Blaster Master game, they shouldn't make it related to Zero.
Jason's story is already over, unless they wanna make a Leibniz spin-off to tell what he did on Earth they really shouldn't touch on this storyline anymore.
About the "as long as gameplay is good" I just hope Satoru Nishizawa gets to direct another series and Inti stops bothering about making their games hard because it never works out. They should try to make a more "dynamic" game like BMZ2 and not just "wow look how much obstacles and all over the place boss patterns" like BMZ3 became and also like most of their games recently.

Yeah, I would love a spin-off with Leibniz, it would be very interesting see the event on Earth.

[Tsuki Zero]

Originally posted by MK1518:

The thing is... Inti Creates has quite a reputation for making great games but with depressing ending (see Mega Man Zero and the Gunvolt series), so it was nice to have a series that was not as depressing as those ones for once. But if they're gonna continue the series, and follow the original continuity to keep it going, then it would make BMZ just like the series I mentioned, and to be honest, I don't want it.

Sorry guys, I'm not gonna have a disagreement with you for this, but I gotta stand for what I believe in. I really don't want to see Jason and Eve ending like Joel from The Last of Us, so I'm just stopping on the third game, and that's it. End of the story.

Counterpoint:
MMZ Series got a bittersweet ending. Zero went out for real after coming back from the dead MANY TIMES BEFORE.
Gunvolt Chronicles also ends in a warm note.
BMZ went went into multiple "directions" with the normal ending, but with the true/good ending being the canon, possibly being Sunsoft's idea. Bad/Normal endings: BMZ1: Eve strands herself in the Super-Dimensional Space and, given how we find her, chances are she would just die there. BMZ2: Eve, Fred and Jason are lost forever in Area Omega, with Eve slowly dying, Fred broken up and still alive, and Jason in an "And I Must Scream" state. BMZ3 possible has it the lightest: to stop Mutants from ever surfacing again, Eve strands herself in the Super-Dimensional Space and is unable to confess her feelings to Jason, but that leaves the implication that in the future Lightning Beings would attack and they would have NO MEANS to counter them.

[TouyaShiro]

Originally posted by MK1518:

The thing is... Inti Creates has quite a reputation for making great games but with depressing ending (see Mega Man Zero and the Gunvolt series), so it was nice to have a series that was not as depressing as those ones for once. But if they're gonna continue the series, and follow the original continuity to keep it going, then it would make BMZ just like the series I mentioned, and to be honest, I don't want it.

Sorry guys, I'm not gonna have a disagreement with you for this, but I gotta stand for what I believe in. I really don't want to see Jason and Eve ending like Joel from The Last of Us, so I'm just stopping on the third game, and that's it. End of the story.

What about Gal*Gun? lol

I feel like a lot of people forget that's ALSO Inti Creates.

[sigma6666]

Inti would have to do the episode where Jason is killed before Roddie takes over in Blasting Again

[Tsuki Zero]

Originally posted by sigma6666:

Inti would have to do the episode where Jason is killed before Roddie takes over in Blasting Again

Not really, because Leibniz told that if Jason and Eve never comes back that he will tell tell Roddy and Elfie that they are dead. In other words, Leibniz can find himself at a point where he will be forced to assume the worst, even if he is not sure of it.

[Lancer]

Originally posted by TouyaShiro:

Originally posted by MK1518:

The thing is... Inti Creates has quite a reputation for making great games but with depressing ending (see Mega Man Zero and the Gunvolt series), so it was nice to have a series that was not as depressing as those ones for once. But if they're gonna continue the series, and follow the original continuity to keep it going, then it would make BMZ just like the series I mentioned, and to be honest, I don't want it.

Sorry guys, I'm not gonna have a disagreement with you for this, but I gotta stand for what I believe in. I really don't want to see Jason and Eve ending like Joel from The Last of Us, so I'm just stopping on the third game, and that's it. End of the story.

What about Gal*Gun? lol

I feel like a lot of people forget that's ALSO Inti Creates.

Umm… The Gal*Gun games take place before Gunvolt. A lot of the main cast’s families are pretty messed up by the time Gunvolt plays out. One of the Kamizono sisters died while Copen and Mytyl were young, namely.

[TouyaShiro]

Originally posted by Lancer:

Umm… The Gal*Gun games take place before Gunvolt. A lot of the main cast’s families are pretty messed up by the time Gunvolt plays out. One of the Kamizono sisters died while Copen and Mytyl were young, namely.

HUH? This is sounding like some Mizuiro Blood levels of crazy that I find hard to believe when one game is about cupids-in-training and the other is Mega Man with a lot of lightning...