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Jazara Dec 21, 2023 @ 1:50pm
Esoteric Enemies?
Hey dudes,

What constitutes an esoteric enemy? Asking to better understand the Depths of Tahoe ring.

Thanks!!
Last edited by Jazara; Dec 21, 2023 @ 2:05pm
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Bankai9212 Dec 21, 2023 @ 1:52pm 
I assume its organic enemies honestly a log of enemies would be great.
Jazara Dec 21, 2023 @ 2:09pm 
Thought that too.. Not getting the 5 hp when damaging any enemies tho so dunno..

Edit: Perhaps by "attack" they mean melee? I wonder... That could explain it..
Edit 2: Nope.. Tried to melee regular enemies and still nada.. Bugged?
Last edited by Jazara; Dec 21, 2023 @ 2:21pm
Bankai9212 Dec 21, 2023 @ 2:12pm 
Originally posted by Jazara:
Thought that too.. Not getting the 5 hp when damaging any enemies tho so dunno..

Edit: Perhaps by "attack" they mean melee? I wonder... That could explain it..
That's usually the case tbh some times aren't clear as when I attack via melee it works but not firearms despite the item saying headshot damage.
OnsideSilver Dec 24, 2023 @ 6:01pm 
Originally posted by Jazara:
Thought that too.. Not getting the 5 hp when damaging any enemies tho so dunno..

Edit: Perhaps by "attack" they mean melee? I wonder... That could explain it..
Edit 2: Nope.. Tried to melee regular enemies and still nada.. Bugged?

I didn't try myself, but i think esoteric enemies are Wendigo and Stalkers (maybe Cultists too).

Have you tried hitting one of them with a melee weapon?
cuss Dec 24, 2023 @ 11:21pm 
Esoteric; meaning a select few, I thought it applied to cultists.
DuckHead  [developer] Jan 4, 2024 @ 6:01am 
Originally posted by Jazara:
Hey dudes,

What constitutes an esoteric enemy? Asking to better understand the Depths of Tahoe ring.

Thanks!!
Basically it's the same as spiritual ones, everything non-material.
WHy Not? Dec 23, 2024 @ 1:18am 
Originally posted by DuckHead:
Originally posted by Jazara:
Hey dudes,

What constitutes an esoteric enemy? Asking to better understand the Depths of Tahoe ring.

Thanks!!
Basically it's the same as spiritual ones, everything non-material.

So then what would be considered ethereal enemies?
Originally posted by WHy Not?:
Originally posted by DuckHead:
Basically it's the same as spiritual ones, everything non-material.

So then what would be considered ethereal enemies?

Spiritual enemies I imagine. Like dogs and cowboy duelist ghosts?
WHy Not? Dec 23, 2024 @ 3:49am 
Originally posted by Marcus Butthurticus:
Originally posted by WHy Not?:

So then what would be considered ethereal enemies?

Spiritual enemies I imagine. Like dogs and cowboy duelist ghosts?

I don't know if you're replying to me, but wouldn't ethereal enemies be enemies that have flesh (material).
Since DuckHead replied to OP's question with "Basically it's the same as spiritual ones, everything non-material."
Pyro Gnome Feb 11 @ 11:40pm 
Originally posted by WHy Not?:
Originally posted by Marcus Butthurticus:

Spiritual enemies I imagine. Like dogs and cowboy duelist ghosts?

I don't know if you're replying to me, but wouldn't ethereal enemies be enemies that have flesh (material).
Since DuckHead replied to OP's question with "Basically it's the same as spiritual ones, everything non-material."
That's not what ethereal means, unless you misspoke. Ethereal's definition is in the name: of the ether, or spirit. Incorporeal or ghostly could be synonyms.

The word esoteric is a very strange choice here if it's meant to mean the same as ethereal, but it COULD be used that way... at a bit of a stretch. It's definitely confusing, though.
Thaecrasis Feb 12 @ 7:32am 
Yeah I don't know why the ring says esoteric enemies, when the game is only classified into ethereal and material enemies. There's no separate esoteric category (if there was I would have put all the strange and unusual looking enemies in it, like humanpedes, wendigos, etc).

Ring should just say "ethereal" since that's what it works on.
WHy Not? Feb 25 @ 4:42am 
Originally posted by Pyro Gnome:
Originally posted by WHy Not?:

I don't know if you're replying to me, but wouldn't ethereal enemies be enemies that have flesh (material).
Since DuckHead replied to OP's question with "Basically it's the same as spiritual ones, everything non-material."
That's not what ethereal means, unless you misspoke. Ethereal's definition is in the name: of the ether, or spirit. Incorporeal or ghostly could be synonyms.

The word esoteric is a very strange choice here if it's meant to mean the same as ethereal, but it COULD be used that way... at a bit of a stretch. It's definitely confusing, though.


I was trying to figure out what category of enemies are considered "Esoteric" in the game
And what category of enemies are considered "Ethereal" in the game.
=P

It still confuses me as I can't tell if the game developers are going by dictionary definition of Esoteric and Ethereal or by "their own definition".

EDIT:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ethereal
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/esoteric

I bring up those two links because the closest example to Esoteric applying to a creature in this game is definition 3. of special, rare, or unusual interest.

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