Where is the new city Gar Nagnag?

[Rohen]

So apparently there should be a new 12th major city, Gar Nagnag, which is needed for 2 steam achievments (get max approval in that city and for the one to have 12 cults) but even after conquering the whole map i dont see it and there is nothing on the internet of it so would be nice if someone knew where/how to get it (maybe it spawns later and is bugged for me? the demonic influence event also was already bugged for me).

[Farlon]

It's not guaranteed to spawn but it's in the north west

[Rohen]

Originally posted by Farlon:

It's not guaranteed to spawn but it's in the north west

huh that sucks hard imo, considering u need the city for the "have 12 cults" achievments, meaning u have to get the spawn during a demonlogist run.

[Farlon]

You should have gotten another troll-related adventure that can spawn another troll city instead

[Rohen]

Originally posted by Farlon:

You should have gotten another troll-related adventure that can spawn another troll city instead

yeah unfortunately my run was pretty bugged apparently, since the events regarding the demon lord Sa'Hrul also didnt happend right, since neither the lord spawned nor there even was an event where i could lose my apprentice (got neither of the achievments, checked all the hidden ones after i finished the run).

[easytarget]

I lost Nalkis the apprentice to Sa Hrul last game, just had that come up again in a new one and I'd rather like this time to hang on to him.

Am I to get clues where to find Sa Hrul or are we just supposed to wander around hoping we run into him before the clock runs out?

[Kaysoky]

Originally posted by easytarget:

I lost Nalkis the apprentice to Sa Hrul last game, just had that come up again in a new one and I'd rather like this time to hang on to him.

Am I to get clues where to find Sa Hrul or are we just supposed to wander around hoping we run into him before the clock runs out?

When the event pops up, after a couple of turns (like 10?) the demon lord's location will be revealed and you'll also have one turn to view its stats (if you don't have vision). It's not really that hard of a fight, depending on your composition though.

[easytarget]

Ah, good to know. I'll keep an eye out, want to try and hang on to him this time!

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by Rohen:

yeah unfortunately my run was pretty bugged apparently, since the events regarding the demon lord Sa'Hrul also didnt happend right, since neither the lord spawned nor there even was an event where i could lose my apprentice (got neither of the achievments, checked all the hidden ones after i finished the run).

Just a heads up, in one of my campaigns i got the demonic influence event early (the one that can result in you lose a apprentice), but in another campaign it took a ages for it to trigger (i had taken down multiple circle mages and taken over most of the map).

Not sure if its completely random or if there is some sort of trigger, but given how long it took in one of my campaigns it simply might not have happened for you "yet" without being broken.

When it comes to the story leading to a possible new troll city (depending on your choices btw) that should trigger shortly after you first attempt to levitate your tower and it comes crashing down.

[Kaysoky]

Originally posted by Farlon:

You should have gotten another troll-related adventure that can spawn another troll city instead

I just finished a playthrough of about 20 weeks where neither troll city spawned :(

I recall a Troll appearing as a free recruit (Follower of Mugwa) and then a couple of hostile Troll groups spawning. But once those groups were defeated, the storyline seemed to end. I don't even remember there being much of a choice, besides maybe trying to chase away the free recruit.

[easytarget]

Yeah, there must be some variability. Last campaign I had trolls showing up pretty early and like I said above missed the losing apprentice event and had him betray me.

This round I'm I think week 8 in and pretty much nothing has happened other than I've been warned my apprentice is going to bail on me. Still waiting for the other shoe to drop where I'm shown where the demon is so I can troop off to deal with him.

P.S. I've levitated the castle couple times, so I would assume the troll even should be triggering soon, right?

[easytarget]

Oh, and as a side note not on topic of this thread (so feel free to ignore). Would it be such a bother to put a one liner blurb reminder description of what a quest is about in the list that shows up when you run a cursor over them?

I mean it's great I've got the list when I pull up the map but now all that's really given me is a list that shows where it is and not what it is. Are we supposed to memorize what the initial description said when it was triggered?

[Kaysoky]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3162849067

I started a new run, and got an early indication of the troll city quest line starting in the grimoire. When I checked my other run's grimoire, the room did not show up. So I'm more hopeful this time around...

[suejak]

Originally posted by Kaysoky:

Originally posted by Farlon:

You should have gotten another troll-related adventure that can spawn another troll city instead

I just finished a playthrough of about 20 weeks where neither troll city spawned :(

I recall a Troll appearing as a free recruit (Follower of Mugwa) and then a couple of hostile Troll groups spawning. But once those groups were defeated, the storyline seemed to end. I don't even remember there being much of a choice, besides maybe trying to chase away the free recruit.

Uhh hostile? They mostly just wander around your territory and you get more free trolls.

Who knows, maybe they turn hostile eventually but not for a long time.

[=(FGR)=Sentinel]

Originally posted by Kaysoky:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3162849067

I started a new run, and got an early indication of the troll city quest line starting in the grimoire. When I checked my other run's grimoire, the room did not show up. So I'm more hopeful this time around...

My understanding is that the event line that gives you a bunch of trolls for free and the city's existence are mutually exclusive: if, after you lift the tower for the first time, you get an event giving you a troll unit, Gar Nagnag will not spawn. On the other hand, if the event that fires doesn't provide a unit, Gar Nagag will be there and the free trolls won't be available.

[easytarget]

Really missing how this quest works. Just lost the apprentice again.

edit: and looked at the entire map to see where this demon was supposed to be - nothing.