WOW i cant even win on pansey level

[Jimib4158]

Ok went back to story-book puss level; after about 6 tries on mid level getting throttled and working up to just survival (no hope of winning)

My farthest game on pansey level; im up to like week 60; i actually have good troops; problem is he does too, and more of them.

Ok its not like i havent had some success; ive taken out two mages, the third looks like i will not win for at least 60 more turns at best

I have in my numer one army 2 flame golums, a wendigo 2 elven archers (very leveled) and led by the shuriken? hero, level 15

The red fire mage, when i attack his tower 2 flame golums, 2 self rezzing hell hounds, 2 either beasts, and two of those fish like creatures (i forget) that stun..........i can come close but cant win

Again ive hit a quagmire, but if i get more power maybe i can win eventually.


I did myself no favor by not tweeking my mage power; some reason default settings my mage wasnt gaining levels; i think thats a bug cuz as soon as i tweeked it, i gained a level VERY next turn

[Sidelingknave]

What do you mean by default settings? What menu are you talking about?
Tweeking mage power?
I think I'm missing something here that might help me a bit.

[Jimib4158]

the all fire flow triangle, you can move that setting, i never have before, as soon as i did started gaining levels fast.
Point is i left it as is always, and never gained a level, i think you better move it day 1 cuz its broken on start position i think

[Malaficus Shaikan]

Welcome to the game biggest issu.
A lack of balance.

My advise:
Story mode.
Easiest map.
Focus on leveling up your tower asap.
Build as many armies as you can afford and keep leveling them.
You shoud only not be fighting if your healing.
Otherwise.
Move, Kill, repeat.

In my experiance.
An high level unit will slaugter low level units by the sheer power difference between the two.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

Welcome to the game biggest issu.
A lack of balance.

My advise:
Story mode.
Easiest map.
Focus on leveling up your tower asap.
Build as many armies as you can afford and keep leveling them.
You shoud only not be fighting if your healing.
Otherwise.
Move, Kill, repeat.

In my experiance.
An high level unit will slaugter low level units by the sheer power difference between the two.

Better advice would be to hold off buying for another 6 months or so.

[Jimib4158]

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

Welcome to the game biggest issu.
A lack of balance.

My advise:
Story mode.
Easiest map.
Focus on leveling up your tower asap.
Build as many armies as you can afford and keep leveling them.
You shoud only not be fighting if your healing.
Otherwise.
Move, Kill, repeat.

In my experiance.
An high level unit will slaugter low level units by the sheer power difference between the two.

yeah, i dunno, i think they wanted to make the game hard, as many 4x out there too easy, even on hardest setting. Impossible level here is pure suicide.

yeah ive found what your saying to be true, except for the easier map imo, isnt easiest

Heres the thing, the easiest map your in the damn center, as a Civ veteran thats bad, you wana start in the corner away from rivals, i start 5th position and i sometimes dont find anyone till weak 5.......also like the orc town close y where i can get a orc barrack, etter then human imo

[Jimib4158]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

Welcome to the game biggest issu.
A lack of balance.

My advise:
Story mode.
Easiest map.
Focus on leveling up your tower asap.
Build as many armies as you can afford and keep leveling them.
You shoud only not be fighting if your healing.
Otherwise.
Move, Kill, repeat.

In my experiance.
An high level unit will slaugter low level units by the sheer power difference between the two.

Better advice would be to hold off buying for another 6 months or so.

naw......i mean ive had a lot of fun with the game .....even tho i learned i have to play on easiest level

Who would have thunk, a game with only one map, could be so hard, so much to do, and actually had fun, even tho the learning curve is hard

[JustNoLuck]

My advice is to try out alchemist if you're struggling with difficulty. On Balanced difficulty I'm easily beating war doomstacks with mostly tier 2 armies. Doubling unit HP, summoning infinite fire golems, doing massive AOE attacks for a single action.... there's a lot of extremely broken effects and it's pretty easy to mass up a big warchest of them for critical battles.

Also, a tip on fighting the resurrecting units: they don't resurrect if you have a unit (or use a consumable) to cast raise dead on their corpse. I've started sending my necromancer apprentice into those fights and it makes them a lot more manageable.

Originally posted by Jimib4158:

Originally posted by Lampros:

Better advice would be to hold off buying for another 6 months or so.

naw......i mean ive had a lot of fun with the game .....even tho i learned i have to play on easiest level

Totally agree with this. Game would be super boring if the challenge was removed.

[Flea_market]

No clue what works for the other two classes, but what worked for artificer, is just getting that life steal rune on any and all melee units. Get the 50% one at the start (it's really easy to make), and later on upgrade to the 100% lifesteal one.
A flame golem, ice golem, or even better: a shaper golem, with a 100% lifesteal rune and some buffs should be able to solo entire enemy teams.
The rune that lets you retaliate without taking ap is also very good. I put that + lifesteal on all my melee guys. Works really well.

Once I figured that out everything became pretty easy.

You should also try to get the balloon that projects your domain, from the dwarven city at the top right. Then get some domain buff buildings and you'll have 20+ armor, lots of resistances and you'll lower enemy resistances. Then just walk up to the enemy base and walk all over them.

If you really like ranged units, you should get the human barracks in your tower and get the archer range upgrade. It gives all ranged units +2 range. Makes a huge difference tactically.

[therealpik]

1) Start with artificer
2) Start with whatever difficulty you want
3) Start at the hardest beginning (the rightest choice)
4) Help orcs and get ASAP shaman + slaves (keepers if possible)
5) Level your team with manual fights, spam spiders and kill everything you can to get higher lvl
6) Craft for your keepers at least the rune : Corrupted glyph Deathlord (corrupted adam + 9 death orbs)
7) Get as much mana as possible for your shamans (ex: pure glyph seer such as adamantium + 3 arcane orb or copper + full arcane orb) and when they get the "Motivate" skill, spam it on your keeper with the corrupted glyph (it refills your enslave full actions).
8) Finish all fights with your first round in manual fight (your keeper will get like 30++ rounds full AP to deal with the ennemy team).

PS: If ennemy is immune to melee damage, you can build 2 keepers, one classic physical damage, the other one something like death or white damage with a 2nd rune.

[Jimib4158]

Originally posted by therealpik:

1) Start with artificer
2) Start with whatever difficulty you want
3) Start at the hardest beginning (the rightest choice)
4) Help orcs and get ASAP shaman + slaves (keepers if possible)
5) Level your team with manual fights, spam spiders and kill everything you can to get higher lvl
6) Craft for your keepers at least the rune : Corrupted glyph Deathlord (corrupted adam + 9 death orbs)
7) Get as much mana as possible for your shamans (ex: pure glyph seer such as adamantium + 3 arcane orb or copper + full arcane orb) and when they get the "Motivate" skill, spam it on your keeper with the corrupted glyph (it refills your enslave full actions).
8) Finish all fights with your first round in manual fight (your keeper will get like 30++ rounds full AP to deal with the ennemy team).

PS: If ennemy is immune to melee damage, you can build 2 keepers, one classic physical damage, the other one something like death or white damage with a 2nd rune.

thks but a old post for me; figured out lots since then, good tips tho.......yeah i like the 4th choice tho, to get the extra slot barracks, altho my next is to run my tower to the left to get that orc barracks like your 5th start slot gets

[HozzMidnight]

I am playing Alchemist on Explorer difficulty. First game didn't go great, I didn't lose but I quit because it had made a lot of sub optimal decisions. Second start, much better, but I still quite when I felt like I had a solid understanding of how to play well. Third time's a charm and I am beating ass. Mid-late game you can just crank out consumables to the point where you can easily win fights the auto resolve has you losing badly. Eagle Spirit. Sealed Elemental. Dark Feast. Sacred Water. My only issue has been locking down gold to keep up with unit upkeep but you can just go full mana and transmute when you get behind.

[Jimib4158]

Originally posted by HozzMidnight:

I am playing Alchemist on Explorer difficulty. First game didn't go great, I didn't lose but I quit because it had made a lot of sub optimal decisions. Second start, much better, but I still quite when I felt like I had a solid understanding of how to play well. Third time's a charm and I am beating ass. Mid-late game you can just crank out consumables to the point where you can easily win fights the auto resolve has you losing badly. Eagle Spirit. Sealed Elemental. Dark Feast. Sacred Water. My only issue has been locking down gold to keep up with unit upkeep but you can just go full mana and transmute when you get behind.

omg about my tenth restart lol, ive had fun exploring the map and did litteraly almost all the quests.

Still havent quite gone to completion, but one of my games i had beaten 3 of 4, ive heard thats when all 4 come after you once you beat the 4th so ive been kinda toying with him altho he puts up quite a fight sending tier 4 units at me......whoda thunk on pansey level, but i guess when you get to week 50 even on easiest level they have good troops

[Sidelingknave]

Haven't seen much help with necromancers but heres what I'll add, If you get baron meldecs soul put it in a hollow armor or whatever it's called, give it a lifesteal rune, 50% is fine, and make sure the rest of it's stack is undead, Bam unbeatable unit.
Mine was able to solo the final army at the end, they couldn't do more than 1-3 damage per hit against it, and with its incredible 300+ health and lifesteal, It was truly invincible.

[Jimib4158]

Originally posted by Sidelingknave:

Haven't seen much help with necromancers but heres what I'll add, If you get baron meldecs soul put it in a hollow armor or whatever it's called, give it a lifesteal rune, 50% is fine, and make sure the rest of it's stack is undead, Bam unbeatable unit.
Mine was able to solo the final army at the end, they couldn't do more than 1-3 damage per hit against it, and with its incredible 300+ health and lifesteal, It was truly invincible.

you know thats whats unique about this game, soooo many ways to win