Lost Eidolons

Lost Eidolons

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Azilian Dec 30, 2022 @ 6:19pm
Last boss.
Only one question - how to kill ♥♥♥♥♥♥ when your mages run out of spells and this beast regen for 60 from 1 hit? And game constantly crashing after fase 3
fase 1 run
fase 2 first regen for 106 hp
fase 3 regen for 106 and chain and some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Last edited by Azilian; Dec 30, 2022 @ 6:21pm
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couldn't you freeze or sleep him always in your last order ... (don't let him burn or poison him) ?
I do that always with OP generals/monsters , until I am able to attack him with all my units at one turn.

But yes, I already feeling, that the battles are getting more and more unfair and cheaty with each battle.
I think I am around capter 22 ... already had 2 times that WTF feeling
Last edited by FlashXAron ☕ (Alex); Dec 31, 2022 @ 1:58am
Azilian Dec 31, 2022 @ 6:32am 
Here is the fun part - NONE control work on him - dark magic - doesnt work, elmental magic either.. shield bash- naha... actualy only thing thants work its taunt... but again it doesnt help cause vampire strikes.. more of that even shielding your allies not always work like explosion spell sometimes its like - aaa i will hit your eden anyway.
I think I should take a lot of sharpshooters and templars (with sacred calling) along with assasins, also advise take battlemages onli - at least they have axes or other weapons to fight him

I actualy didnt feel difficulty for chapters 22-26 till this fight
I got int party :
overlord (with dark magic)
2 warloks with nights veil and 2 battlemages with aoe +2 healers
1 templar and 1 sharpshooter
the last role could be sorcerer or sharpshooter
But this isnt work for last mission... i think i will remove 1 healer and other will got blessing

also do I meantioned that bastar gt resistanse 75% to any damage? Yeah hes skill says 25% + protections but in reality your attacks wich yousualy do 30-46 damage do like.. 5-7 damage at best 10.. 10 is a top damage

Also i strongly recoment to train bow as a second weapon cause diagonal attacks
Last edited by Azilian; Dec 31, 2022 @ 6:48am
Okay, have to look if it is possible to turn the game to easy in the camp before that battle, didn't really want to fight such cheated battle, was enough that stupidity with generals only could be really hurt, when their group is down ... even that Generals at their own has cheated stats ... game design should use different methods to give players a challenge ...
... like, transform him into a Demon !
Otherwise he shouldn't be stronger than Eden , even that Generals have been stronger and after you defeated them, they have worn normal gear ... your chars with same level, same class AND EVEN better gear have been worse compared, that is terrible game design ...
same gear , class, level etc. SHOULD be always same power for AI and player ! /at normal settings)
Hate that if it isn't ...
Last edited by FlashXAron ☕ (Alex); Dec 31, 2022 @ 9:03am
treahnurb Dec 31, 2022 @ 9:31am 
There are patterns you need to pay attention to. I lost my first battle against him too but learned to not throw everything at his allies because I thought I have to catch up faster.
Pay attention to what his abilities do. (the chains for eg)
Lure him out of fire with taunt abilities.
Use potions, lots of them.
Arrows. Shower him in arrows. Arrows are you best friend. He can't do ♥♥♥♥ against Sharpshooters.
Also, battlemages are your friends, since they can do solid damage without spells too. I had only one "full" wizard with me and only one "full" warlock and "full" priest. Everyone else was "combo classes", if you will, two battle mages, one templar.
Last edited by treahnurb; Dec 31, 2022 @ 9:32am
Azilian Dec 31, 2022 @ 9:53am 
okey i actualy killed him 6 hours of my life so here is patterns (+- depends on which phase you are at)
1 firemark - bless do not remove
2 fire colum- fire mark explodes
3 fire colum split to cross up to 3 times
4 crags - explode for 30 damage
5 super attacks
6 aoe
7 vampire strike - use night veil - its better to be shot from loch arrow then hes axe
8 chains - use mages without spells to be baits for this spell
9 crags - explode for 30 damage
10 -super attack

So its crucial to keep him far away at step 7

here was my crew:
Eden overlord with dark magic book of malice + champion neckplace - siles + night veil
Robere templar - hero calling + bless + sky edge spear
Marchelle + Andrea(yeah I made her bishop but you can take anyone else) - bishop with healight light grimoire - spells santuary + sacred calling+ healing light+ hym of healing\bless
Levana - warlock night veil + shadowsburst + somolence + silence+ dark burst
Linard + Gabriel- battle mage - storm strike cylon + blizzar + torrential rain + bow(both)
Albrecht - sorserer =firestorm cyclone - torrential rain blizzard - storm strike + book of gorneys - (was completle usless last 6 turns but helped a lot at the start)
Karin sharpshooter
Klara assasin

Also some note - make sure you use all firee spells and skill before reach last boss
+ take some poison poitions with you + haste + steght
bless i very helpfull cause this pank stunns and stuns a lot - and yeas archers are the best agains him (forget about rangers they suck only sharp shooters)
Last edited by Azilian; Dec 31, 2022 @ 9:56am
treahnurb Dec 31, 2022 @ 10:01am 
You know that you can break the chains if the chained persons just move into opposite directions?
okay I am before the last battle ... and after reading this here, I am sure I didn't want to learn somehow a battle script or waste hours to find the "only working" solution ...
managed to do all fights until now at normal settings and never had to restart any of the battles ...
will change to easy and try it without changing my squad or how I played the game ...
had this worse exp. with that 40K Warhammer game, where you have been fu... , when you didn't do the last battle, how the guids told you ! Never finished that "da mn" game and will never buy any game from them :steammocking: again ...
so to prevent this here also, I have to change to easy beforehand :steamhappy: ...
Azilian Dec 31, 2022 @ 3:11pm 
Originally posted by FlashXAron ☕ (Alex):
okay I am before the last battle ... and after reading this here, I am sure I didn't want to learn somehow a battle script or waste hours to find the "only working" solution ...
managed to do all fights until now at normal settings and never had to restart any of the battles ...
will change to easy and try it without changing my squad or how I played the game ...
had this worse exp. with that 40K Warhammer game, where you have been fu... , when you didn't do the last battle, how the guids told you ! Never finished that "da mn" game and will never buy any game from them :steammocking: again ...
so to prevent this here also, I have to change to easy beforehand :steamhappy: ...
Emm yes sorry for spoilers, but yeah I almost surrender myself at the fight I guest 3-4 attempts and I would delete this game unfinished, but luckly I did surrender but it was try hard.. I mean it was cool battle come to think but you wasnt ready for such sht. I think if they show some mechanics before final battle it will be still hard but not ass-burning hard like you know Eden and Baltazar fight each other many times - and each time they show some new powers like your enemy got some new mechanic you got some mechanic and here is final battle so you preperaded for it from the begining. But the all game became so easy after lvl 30 even consider that I am playing at hard ,,. so I wasnt prepared for such final boss. Exualy I expect he will turn into dragon and final fight will be monsterfight)
Originally posted by Azzilian:
Originally posted by FlashXAron ☕ (Alex):
okay I am before the last battle ... and after reading this here, I am sure I didn't want to learn somehow a battle script or waste hours to find the "only I expect he will turn into dragon and final fight will be monsterfight)

Yeah for Immerson he should have transformed into a Dragon and then the fight would have been okay at normal setting ...
as a normal knight with that same power level as Eden had it doesn't fit and feels terrible cheaty , so I finished the last battle with easy settings, where he did the same damage as my knights have done and his magic had the same power as Edens magic ... first time I didn't felt cheated, but of course it was easy :steammocking: ...
it is all a matter of immersion , but for a game, where players feel valued and challenged, game designers should have enough imagination to construct a balanced world, where players feel well ! Apart the last battle it was the case ...

all in all the campaign was a pleasure ! :steamthumbsup: with the last battle at easy setting :steamhappy:
treahnurb Jan 1, 2023 @ 12:54am 
Dunno man. Balastar was always stronger than Eden. Both in terms of Eidolon as well as warrior. That was always clearly shown. And unlike Eden, he was very well consumed by the power of the Eidolon.
Last edited by treahnurb; Jan 1, 2023 @ 1:46am
generally work party structure(hard+eternal death,not ng+):
healer:2-3(including one templar(or overlord eden(use spear or bow)),else are all bishops.2 of them need to cure the debuff,ensure all can move);
warlocks/battle mage with dark:2(most important part is rotten,you need to reduce balastar`s defense);
elemental/battlemage with element: 0-1(just for not-named enemy slay,fire spell banned,might not nesserary);
else:sharpshooters,with horse if possible(4 horses all need to be given),they are dps of the 10 raid.
spell amount limited means physical method better,just use range to reduce balastar's hp,in fact it is just a 5+ turn raid,dizziness cure by bishops,and bomb token need 1-2 shooters to kill
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