Lost Eidolons

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Mr.Moo Oct 14, 2022 @ 2:05pm
New Units
Getting new units seems a little to hard. That Huntress came to my camp for 2 days... only option was to give her gifts and do 1 quest. I did the quest and gave like 4-5 gifts still was only 75% through the support circle gauge. Since I cant get more gifts unless the rare trader is in you essentially get screwed out of units, plus now your down those 5 gifts... and considering how rare they are it kinda sucks. Unless they come back later for another chance? and you build up over time?
(I bought the rare traders gifts when she was in, and have done all quest/notice board flyers so as far. Plus she didnt have options to dine/spar with... so as far as I know there is nothing else I could of done)
Last edited by Mr.Moo; Oct 14, 2022 @ 2:07pm
Originally posted by steelmidnight:
Yeah, you kind of need a feel for the flow of things, and then it gets easy to recruit characters.

1) ALWAYS buy the gifts from the rare merchant.

2) SAVE those gifts, and only use them on visitors, never give them to your team, as you can build up their rapport with activities.

3) DONT bother feeding gifts to Balastars people. I tried, and it doesnt seem to do anything when their ranks go up. Concentrate only on visitors, and your own team.

4) You get your leadership pts back at the begging of every chapter. I think prestige is supposed to do something for you as well, but I am at around chapter 12 or so, and still dont know wth prestige does. BUT I havent missed recruiting any of the visitors. Also expend all your conversation icons. Some of those give a free rapport boost to team members and even visitors without having to spend leadership. So far I have recruited the assassin friend of another visitor, a priest, 2 mages, a huntress and have not missed a visitor yet.

But I agree. They shouldnt limit rapport as much as they do. Some people want to complete the game in a single playthrough, and that is impossible here because your too limited on building relationships. Two things this game could really use is a grinding option (for us power-leveler's. I like to play through a game once normally, and then if I like it, replay it but become a power-leveled monster to see all I missed and just decimate everything lol) so a NG plus for this game that would be PERFECT would be unlimited optional battles and unlimited gifts and gear in the shop.

When a game is this limited and linear, you really cant experiment with changing everyones classes around. I think those two features in a NG plus mode would solve that problem.....And since you already beat the game, balance isnt as important....
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virel Oct 14, 2022 @ 2:44pm 
Do you know how to restore the leadership points needed to give these gifts ? I also have problems with recruitment, but I do not have enough of those 50 points for recruitment and for all actions with companions.
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steelmidnight Oct 14, 2022 @ 6:24pm 
Yeah, you kind of need a feel for the flow of things, and then it gets easy to recruit characters.

1) ALWAYS buy the gifts from the rare merchant.

2) SAVE those gifts, and only use them on visitors, never give them to your team, as you can build up their rapport with activities.

3) DONT bother feeding gifts to Balastars people. I tried, and it doesnt seem to do anything when their ranks go up. Concentrate only on visitors, and your own team.

4) You get your leadership pts back at the begging of every chapter. I think prestige is supposed to do something for you as well, but I am at around chapter 12 or so, and still dont know wth prestige does. BUT I havent missed recruiting any of the visitors. Also expend all your conversation icons. Some of those give a free rapport boost to team members and even visitors without having to spend leadership. So far I have recruited the assassin friend of another visitor, a priest, 2 mages, a huntress and have not missed a visitor yet.

But I agree. They shouldnt limit rapport as much as they do. Some people want to complete the game in a single playthrough, and that is impossible here because your too limited on building relationships. Two things this game could really use is a grinding option (for us power-leveler's. I like to play through a game once normally, and then if I like it, replay it but become a power-leveled monster to see all I missed and just decimate everything lol) so a NG plus for this game that would be PERFECT would be unlimited optional battles and unlimited gifts and gear in the shop.

When a game is this limited and linear, you really cant experiment with changing everyones classes around. I think those two features in a NG plus mode would solve that problem.....And since you already beat the game, balance isnt as important....
Last edited by steelmidnight; Oct 14, 2022 @ 6:27pm
LoneryWolfy Oct 14, 2022 @ 6:32pm 
A few things to keep in mind here.

1) Missed character do come back in later chapters. (Missed Karin early on she came back in chapter 13-14

2) Prestige gives a rewards (Coins, Recourses, Rapport items) every 15 points. every 3rd also seems to increase your leadership by 10 points.

3) New visitors can in general be recruited by doing their quest and gifting 2 rare gifts that they like. this is hard to accomplish for the first 1 or 2 if you dont know its going to happen but manageable for the later ones
Mr.Moo Oct 14, 2022 @ 6:59pm 
Ahhhhh I see I will keep that in mind i definitely handed a few out to some of the original crew so that's probably where I went wrong. Ended up getting the mage dude after the Huntress though so thats dope still. Ty for the reply(s):steamthumbsup:
BloodyPork Oct 14, 2022 @ 9:18pm 
Originally posted by LoneryWolfy:
A few things to keep in mind here.

1) Missed character do come back in later chapters. (Missed Karin early on she came back in chapter 13-14

2) Prestige gives a rewards (Coins, Recourses, Rapport items) every 15 points. every 3rd also seems to increase your leadership by 10 points.

3) New visitors can in general be recruited by doing their quest and gifting 2 rare gifts that they like. this is hard to accomplish for the first 1 or 2 if you dont know its going to happen but manageable for the later ones
How to get visitor quest? Karin visited my camp and doesnt give quest.
steelmidnight Oct 15, 2022 @ 12:43am 
Originally posted by BloodyPork:
Originally posted by LoneryWolfy:
A few things to keep in mind here.

1) Missed character do come back in later chapters. (Missed Karin early on she came back in chapter 13-14

2) Prestige gives a rewards (Coins, Recourses, Rapport items) every 15 points. every 3rd also seems to increase your leadership by 10 points.

3) New visitors can in general be recruited by doing their quest and gifting 2 rare gifts that they like. this is hard to accomplish for the first 1 or 2 if you dont know its going to happen but manageable for the later ones
How to get visitor quest? Karin visited my camp and doesnt give quest.

Sometimes the quests can be a bit tricky, as just going to the message-bubble-marked people wont do it. You may sometimes have to "trigger" the event by approaching certain characters.....For example-

Around chapt. 12 you get the chance to recruit a POW. Talking to her wont really trigger her quest (DONT start gifting her yet btw, because triggering her quest and finishing it nearly fills her "aqquantaince" rapport!!!) When she starts just repeating the same thing, go to Robin and approach him, which will trigger a scene. After that her quest will begin and you can then just follow the quest markers to get her.

I ran into a couple of these "Walk up and trigger" events. But since they tend to trigger near people with word-bubble icons anyways, as long as you talk to all those, you should run into the events as you go. Most visitors have at least one quest when they come, that will give them a boost in rapport, but it usually takes a little bit manually after that quest to get them....So ALWAYS scan for characters visting before spending any leadership points.

I FINALLY found out what prestige does, but I am glad someone answered it anyways. MAKE SURE you go into your inventory where all your books are, and look for "Villager rewards" and open them.....LOL you may be like me, and carrying around a ton of money, gifts, and rare gear and not realizing it....HAHA It was a nice surprise stumbling on all that stuff for me....And it may not be obvious that you recieved it. I mean, it DOES tell you, but some may not really realize you have to manually open those rewards in inventory.
Trolleur_Durden Oct 15, 2022 @ 1:12am 
Originally posted by LoneryWolfy:
A few things to keep in mind here.

1) Missed character do come back in later chapters. (Missed Karin early on she came back in chapter 13-14

2) Prestige gives a rewards (Coins, Recourses, Rapport items) every 15 points. every 3rd also seems to increase your leadership by 10 points.

3) New visitors can in general be recruited by doing their quest and gifting 2 rare gifts that they like. this is hard to accomplish for the first 1 or 2 if you dont know its going to happen but manageable for the later ones

Is there a way to know what someone will like besides trial and error?
upuaut2 Oct 15, 2022 @ 2:55am 
i agree they need to change the rapport system. as it stands right now, it goes way too slow if you give gifts. gifts plus conversations should increase way more the rapport. it seems impossible to recruit everyone at this point or to max rapport with all of your companions.
BloodyPork Oct 15, 2022 @ 3:20am 
Originally posted by upuaut2:
i agree they need to change the rapport system. as it stands right now, it goes way too slow if you give gifts. gifts plus conversations should increase way more the rapport. it seems impossible to recruit everyone at this point or to max rapport with all of your companions.
This is honestly a way bigger deal than "turn limits" that people are harping about. I guess they won't know how annoying this is because they haven't experience it.
amills1 Oct 16, 2022 @ 12:42am 
Originally posted by Trolleur_Durden:
Is there a way to know what someone will like besides trial and error?

The guides section of steam for this game has a list of where to obtain gifts and who likes them.
Trolleur_Durden Oct 16, 2022 @ 1:17am 
Originally posted by amills1:
Originally posted by Trolleur_Durden:
Is there a way to know what someone will like besides trial and error?

The guides section of steam for this game has a list of where to obtain gifts and who likes them.

Thank you very much
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