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I believe it's different ways Cath dies. You notice mark saying that he has seen cath die in hundreds of timelines. I'm guessing one of them is her brother/father shooting her in an alternative timeline.
I’m very curious about this as well. I doubt it’s her brother as he doesn’t have mustache goatee. The father is a bigger build and so is her brother.
I also have this feeling that some aren’t taking into account that her brother could also be an abused child much like Cath. I only say this because of how the brother showed up at Ridel’s showing. Cath and her brother also bonding at the end reality. We don’t know his whole story background (wish we did) but the brother seemed annoyed at the parents during Cath’s funeral. So I personally wouldn’t go pointing the finger so quick at him, as I feel both children were both abused by the parents.
Could be a random mugging idk…
Just my theory.
Edit: This is also a timeline where Ridel says his camera was stolen. Cath was delighted that the center had a bag of flour (and she cheered about this out loud in the open halls). The bulletin board even says the food cards are very valuable, making a point that food is gold in that timeline. If you attempt to remove the bulletin board pins again, a military man yells at you to stop.
That honest to me makes the most sense as it fits the timeline theme like I mentioned above.
I was honestly curious why some would automatically point the finger at Cath’s brother. In that same gunshot timeline, Cath tells Mark that Mark’s dad got him all his rations, and Cath makes remarks why’d Mark let his tired dad do all that for him. You can tell Cath was upset Mark didn’t take very good care of his loving father. Cath continues to tell Mark that her own dad would never do that for her but her brother probably would.
In all the timelines, we get a glimpse of how Cath’s brother had guilt over how their parents treated her. I’m not sure if anyone took notice that Cath’s brother always wore a hoodie with long sleeves in all 3 playthrough, which to me hints at him also having signs of hidden abuse under his clothing. The guilt of a big brother unable to protect his little sister was very apparent to me.
The problem is that quantum entrapment is not one-person, it affects all beings and it is somewhat absurd that so many lives are changed at the whim of two "beings". The number of paradoxes that would be created would be infinite for each person concerned. The impression I got was that the devs got into a garden they didn't know how to get out of to close the story, and to do so they removed all the quantum theory they tried so hard to explain in order to offer a meh ending. Convenient on an emotional level, but incongruous on an argumentative level. Getting into quantum physics is quite complex and that has merit, but not everything goes, especially if it ends in absurdity.
That said I found it a great game, and the first story is simply sublime. I thought the second one was remarkable, but the third one is very cheating in my opinion because it's more concerned with offering an ending than giving a logical ending to what it had been explaining to you for hours in its own narrative. Still, great game. Just for the first ending alone it's worth playing. That part is simply excellent.
I know there are many disappointed with the open ending of the third reality but to me as a big picture it wasn’t just about Mark and Nicole being together at that point. They’ve been together in the first and many lifetimes that they had recollections of. It’s just another string of possible reality.
This was done by a team of devs and I’m sure they had many solid endings that they would have wanted. It’s no different than the movie called Butterfly Effect starring Ashton Kutcher, which had two separate “true ending” one made for cinema and the other the director’s cut (which many found insensitive).
These are also 14-15 year old characters and many expect these children to explain quantum theory as if there’s an absolute answer to it. The second playthrough is again just another sci-fi theory twist like many games. Life is Strange has quantum theory but is never explained and yet many love that story and never dare question it. This game tried to delve into it with zero definitive answers but if they did have answers many will argue it. There is just no winning, and that is the point of all 3 story plays; strange occurrences/deja vu, quantum theory, afterlife/purgatory. These are the stages we are put through in the game as these are just some of the stages we all as humans question to “what is life”.
And yes there are folks disappointed with the ending, I’ve seen it on streams/YT videos, reddit and post here. It’s great to see these discussions because it shows it has impacted players differently. The devs could have given different true endings, much like The Butterfly Effect movie like I mentioned when it comes to chaos theories. As someone’s thread here has echoed, only the devs can truly tell us why they came up with such an ending, and what their true ending really is.
I honestly came into this game thinking our own choices mattered when in fact it didn’t and I won’t lie that truly disappointed me, and is one of my con with the game. The game doesn’t have our common language, Tagalog, so that’s the other disappointments I have with this game as well.
The only logical explanation I can come up with is that if Mark and Nicole are in high school together then Cathy will always commit suicide because Mark is not with her to help her with her parents' abuse? That might make some sense considering that in order for Cathy not to commit suicide, Mark has to be there for her and Nicole was just the cause to keep Mark away from his friend. As the souls of Mark's mother and Nicole's friend tried to get Mark and Nicole together, they only caused Cathy's death over and over again, and that made everything worse because it aggravated Mark's problem. It's the only logical explanation I can find. Cathy's fate was not to commit suicide, but for Mark to help her. When the souls intervened, they broke this kind of universal equilibrium.
That's why all possible realities fail, because they all result in Cathy's suicide. The only reality where that does not happen is if Mark and Nicole are not in high school together, and so by avoiding Cathy's suicide, Mark can get over his mother's disappearance and Nicole can get over Jake's disappearance because she'll not be with someone who has also suffered a similar trauma of loss, both his mother's and Cathy's. That makes sense to me. Kind of.
As not to delve into too much of what I was taught as a child of a very religious Filipino family, the ending seemed the most “meaningful” as far as an easier route for the dev team to go with. They could have done it without going the sci-fi route tbh but they wanted to put us in so many unanswered stages. I don’t like the weird unexplained looking into each others eyes as a way to reality time jump. Is it to strike discussions afterwards? Who knows. But I can agree it becomes a jumbled up mess.
In my playthrough, I personally never thought Cath wanted to commit suicide, she just wanted to run away… far away from home. She seek safety by surrounding herself with friends but felt distant at the same time from them. All of her deaths including the OP thread are accidents. Her arms are not from cutting as she wraps them up with the first aid kit.
I don’t like that the story hyper focused on Mark and Nicole’s relationship, as I feel there was other relationships within the story that needed further mending. Their relationship was so forced for me personally, and I honestly didn’t think they were that “perfect” pairing. Their spark was bound by lost of loved ones which to me felt wrong, but that’s just a personal thing.
All possible realities, The Ruling continues to occur, people who are not meant to be gone are gone. They used Cath as another way to explain this to us, to make a deeper connection. Two people forced together by unseen entities, can cause chaos. Leave them be and The Ruling and Cath’s death cease to exist.