Favorite weapon loadout?

[Varukaii]

Just unlocked the mine and idk what to go , 1H+shield , 2H , what ranged weapons i should pick etc.
There a lot of options for a player that is new to these types of game and honestly i wouldnt want to pick something and not stick with it because if i dont like it anymore later, i gotta level up the skills again.

[Von Herbst]

Primarly range for sure except you really want even more itemmanagment.
Nanomage seems not viable atm, ive played so far (BO...5 i think) primarly with pistols with 1H+ shield in the secound slot, if anything *really* want to cuddle. Played a bit around with Rifles, cant say that it feels all to different from pistols.

[I Throw Spears.]

Well, Rifle is the absolute winner.

You can easily beat the entire game by left clicking on enemies and using no skills or adrenaline whatsoever.

Its just busted.

After that.... its Pistol! Same deal, no skills, no adrenaline needed. Not quite as good as rifle.

Annnnd after that it is Bow!

Notice a trend lol?

[Jon]

I like the bow but yep, often have to switch to rifle just to deal with a room of hostiles. Bow is handy for collecting arrows; the hidden feature and blindness dont seem to proc as often as i'd like to make it a proper stealth weapon. And it's damage is pretty meh.

[stretch]

Initially you want to use the pistols you find and not the crafted ones. The ones you find also require ammo that you must find so it's not actually enough to get you through entirely but you do find them regularly. Until you can research and craft the 3rd pistol they are significantly better but once you can craft the 3rd pistol or rifle the difference is negligible. If you follow the quests you can get the justice rifle long before you can craft the upgraded rifles. That thing uses crafted ammo so it's awfully powerful.

The big problem with weapons is that they wear out very quickly. You can craft repair kits but just be aware that they reduce the items max durability so you will end up eroding your weapon quickly if you use those excessively. When you combine this fast wearing out and excessive repairing wearing them out it becomes a real juggling act. Then because you don't want to repair too often you have to closely monitor the items wear status because they don't go to your inventory when they break they simply vanish.
Ranged weapons miss a lot, jam even more than they miss and require ammo. Those things stand to somewhat mitigate just how awfully powerful ranged weapons are but even with those negatives it's still preferable to taking melee damage and getting so many bleeds, broken bones etc etc.
For me any one thing there is fine but when you smash the whole lot together it's just tedious.

You can make better repair kits but at the time you can start making those the amount of copper required for them is fairly prohibitive. Be sure to grab every bit of copper you pass at all times.

Don't underestimate grenades. I don't use them much but in certain situations... really handy.
You can use barricades almost anywhere.
There are a lot of other weapons that I never tried like Molotov cocktails etc.

[Funreaver]

Being close to the end I would strongly advise to go for rifle or pistol for now.
Melee while 2h does more damage, 1h+Shield will not get as much damage and you can do funny things with the extra attacks from countering. While 2h has a nice movement ability. :D

All melee builds suffer against most of the ranged enemies so you want to take them out before you deal with the melee mobs. Because if they shoot at you 2-3 times until you are you might as well just shoot them before they even see you.

[Vardis]

I've been using rifle as my main, and 1H + shield for when I don't feel like wasting bullets. Or nano, just to diversify. Plus, Counter Stance with 1H lets me get free adrenaline, which I can immediately use to switch weapons and Snipe enemies.

[identityphobe]

I’m kinda regretting using 2H melee in my current (and first) playthrough. Dealing with all the status effects can be overwhelming especially when ranged enemies like to dish them out seemingly non-stop. Item management is such a pain as well considering how many things I need to carry.

The game becomes much more enjoyable once I started to use rifles and I wish I started that way.

[Commisar Jon Fuklaw]

Originally posted by identityphobe:

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Make liberal use of quick dash and jousting dash if you absolutely refuse to use any ranged attacks.

[identityphobe]

Originally posted by Commisar Jon Fuklaw:

Originally posted by identityphobe:

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Make liberal use of quick dash and jousting dash if you absolutely refuse to use any ranged attacks.

Yep, that's what I'm currently trying, but I'm still struggling in certain encounters. I can handle most encounters well but when there are 3-4 ranged enemies with status effects, it can be unmanageable. But most of the time I can handle 1-2 of them if I use those dashes.

I entered the Market recently and surprised to find camped out directly in front of the narrow entrance were 3-4 of those monsters that spread acid puddles plus one of those bleeding spike throwers. That and a bunch of melee monsters surrounding me almost made me quit the whole game entirely. Maybe it's my bad luck and bad decision that I didn't destroy the cocoon fast enough. With that said, grenades were supremely helpful that time.

But I survived and now can enjoy the game again haha.

[Varukaii]

Originally posted by Commisar Jon Fuklaw:

Originally posted by identityphobe:

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Make liberal use of quick dash and jousting dash if you absolutely refuse to use any ranged attacks.

Unless you are trying a melee only challenge i wouldn't see why would you refuse to use ranged.

[identityphobe]

Originally posted by Varukaii:

Originally posted by Commisar Jon Fuklaw:

Make liberal use of quick dash and jousting dash if you absolutely refuse to use any ranged attacks.

Unless you are trying a melee only challenge i wouldn't see why would you refuse to use ranged.

If you're referring to me, no, I am not attempting a melee only challenge and not refusing to use ranged at all.

What I wrote below was probably not clear:

> The game becomes much more enjoyable once I started to use rifles and I wish I started that way.

I switched to a hybrid melee and ranged build midgame when I realised my normal habit of going single weapon build in most games I'd played only makes the game more difficult if I stuck to melee. So I started using rifles around B2-B3 and that's when things became a lot easier.

Most of the time I use 2H melee, but I switch to ranged when dealing with annoying ranged monsters. I'm currently having fun killing monsters with my Chopping Axe and occasionally use the mining laser as needed.

It's just that because I started the game by investing my perks mostly in 2H melee, my ranged perks (rifles) are lacking. Not enough to stop me from progressing, but I can imagine if swap the investment around, things would probably be easier. I don't how far I am from the end game, but maybe there's still time to add more ranged perks.

[Varukaii]

Originally posted by identityphobe:

Originally posted by Varukaii:

Unless you are trying a melee only challenge i wouldn't see why would you refuse to use ranged.

If you're referring to me, no, I am not attempting a melee only challenge and not refusing to use ranged at all.

What I wrote below was probably not clear:

> The game becomes much more enjoyable once I started to use rifles and I wish I started that way.

I switched to a hybrid melee and ranged build midgame when I realised my normal habit of going single weapon build in most games I'd played only makes the game more difficult if I stuck to melee. So I started using rifles around B2-B3 and that's when things became a lot easier.

Most of the time I use 2H melee, but I switch to ranged when dealing with annoying ranged monsters. I'm currently having fun killing monsters with my Chopping Axe and occasionally use the mining laser as needed.

It's just that because I started the game by investing my perks mostly in 2H melee, my ranged perks (rifles) are lacking. Not enough to stop me from progressing, but I can imagine if swap the investment around, things would probably be easier. I don't how far I am from the end game, but maybe there's still time to add more ranged perks.

From what i've read theres 10 floors?
I barely got to B2, i am a loot goblin so i am taking multiple trips on every floor for every container, item etc, no loot left behind.
Frankly i am quite overpowered for B2, with military grade armor, corpse sword n shield and rifle.
But as you said, im mainly using rifle to deal with ranged stuff or stuff that deal damage when they die.
its quite funny, melee only run would be hell while ranged only would be a cake walk more or less.

[identityphobe]

Originally posted by Varukaii:

From what i've read theres 10 floors?
I barely got to B2, i am a loot goblin so i am taking multiple trips on every floor for every container, item etc, no loot left behind.
Frankly i am quite overpowered for B2, with military grade armor, corpse sword n shield and rifle.
But as you said, im mainly using rifle to deal with ranged stuff or stuff that deal damage when they die.
its quite funny, melee only run would be hell while ranged only would be a cake walk more or less.

If it’s indeed 10, then there’s hope for me still haha. I’ve just recently entered B4.

Yeah, I’m a loot goblin as well and since the infection increases with time (which I presume also introduces more challenging monsters), that’s probably why I’m dealing with difficult ranged enemies. It also doesn’t help that I do all my side quests before I go underground again.

From hindsight, I play games mostly to relax and at most, be mildly challenged, so sticking with 2H melee for the first 2 floors was a bad choice. But that’s what I
get for going into the game blind haha.

[Darren]

Originally posted by identityphobe:

If it’s indeed 10, then there’s hope for me still haha. I’ve just recently entered B4.

You can win the game (with at least one ending) after getting to the 7th floor.

[identityphobe]

Originally posted by Darren:

Originally posted by identityphobe:

If it’s indeed 10, then there’s hope for me still haha. I’ve just recently entered B4.

You can win the game (with at least one ending) after getting to the 7th floor.

Ah, noted. Thanks for the clarification. I’m halfway there then.